You Thought The 2020 Elections Were Over? Pffff….

Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has since lived and traveled around the world several times over. Though frequently writing about politics out of a sense of duty and love of country, most of the time he would prefer discussions on history, culture, occasionally nerding on aviation, and his amateur foodie tendencies. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter @four4thefire and his food writing website Yonder and Home. Andrew is the host of Heard Tell podcast. Subscribe to Andrew's Heard Tell SubStack for free here:

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  1. Jaybird says:

    I can understand pivoting away from the argument one was using yesterday when the stakes are high enough.

    If this was the difference between Pelosi and Whomever being House Speaker, hell yes! Get rid of yesterday’s argument!

    Are the stakes particularly high here? Like, will this change much of anything for the House except who the incumbent is come November of next year?Report

    • Marchmaine in reply to Jaybird says:

      Norms were broken…

      But I had a similar thought; for a single seat in Iowa?Report

      • I had the same thought. The political cost to challenge that one seat when you already have an (admittedly slim) majority seems entirely too much for the benefit. Even if the deck is already stacked so the decision by the House will be that the certified election results stand.

        Six votes. Toss them an extra half-million dollars in 2022. And teach them how to use it. Start here.Report

        • Slade the Leveller in reply to Michael Cain says:

          But that would take years….

          The optics of this are so colossally bad it just beggars the imagination. And for what gain?Report

          • The Gang of Four flipped seats in the first election after they started spending. If you want to argue that there are no more Dem-leaning voters who can be brought out to vote in Iowa’s 2nd, argue that. If you want to argue that the Republican incumbent has no baggage that could be exploited, argue that. If you want to argue that the covid relief bill has nothing that benefits Iowa’s 2nd, argue that. Or that the infrastructure bill that will almost certainly pass later this year pumping money into Iowa’s 2nd (and Pelosi is smarter than that) isn’t a positive, argue that. Don’t argue that six votes is an insurmountable hurdle that can’t be reversed in something short of “years”.Report

          • Kazzy in reply to Slade the Leveller says:

            If the optics of this are “so colossally bad”, how would you rate the optics of January 6th and the fallout from that (e.g., Congress Critters lying and saying there was no violence on that day)?Report

            • Chip Daniels in reply to Kazzy says:

              Or the “optics” of the Sooper Dooper Kraken lawyer whining that no one should take any of that stuff seriously, it was all a joke, hey, cancha take a joke?

              Or the “optics” of Republicans up and down the line declaring that if everyone is allowed to vote, no Republican will ever be elected again?

              Just because the Republicans have a twisted and nihilistic worldview, doesn’t mean we have to live in it.Report

  2. Chip Daniels says:

    In January, the Democrats demanded that all ballots be counted and not be thrown out.

    Now, in a stunning and hypocritical about-face, the Democrats demand that all ballots be counted and not be thrown out.

    I interviewed these customers in a rural diner and they emphatically stated they will not stand for this perfidy.Report