How I Survived Betomania…
It may appear infrequent for a conservative to attend a campaign rally for a Democratic primary candidate for president. Nevertheless, my acquiescence toward media confirmation bias keeps me determined to seek out the truth on my own. Hence on Sunday while the world waited with bated breath for AG Barr to reveal a summary on the Mueller Report, I spent the early morning driving across the Vegas valley to attend Beto O’Rourke’s rally at Taqueria Arandas. This place is in one of the oldest neighborhoods of Vegas, and naturally, I reside on the opposite side of the earth so I had to hustle in order to beat morning traffic.
After steering past numerous construction zones inside the spaghetti bowl, a smile flashed across my face, similar to a sixth-grader ready to cherry drop from the monkey bars on the school playground. I felt like a pro, zigzagging through rush-hour congestion, determined not to miss Betomania. Honestly, what is the fuss over a gangly, skateboarding, punk rocker of the Democratic Party? I decided to discover the draw for myself.
By the time I arrived at the restaurant that with a ketchup-colored rooftop and a mustard-colored body, the entire block diffused an enchanting aroma of fresh el pastor meat from one of the taco trucks parked across the street. I love Mexican Food. Although disappointed that I couldn’t exit my car to purchase one with fresh pineapple and sprinkled cilantro, I searched for a parking spot or at least a handicapped one so I wouldn’t have to walk a long distance.
No such luck.
Since cars were being towed at Coyotes mini-mart next door, to avoid any mishap I parked across the street next to a motor home in a vacant lot opposite of the Walgreens. I snatched my charged-up iphone, arm crutch, and my canvas backpack then trekked toward the crosswalk on Nellis and Lake Mead. At the light, I received a few odd glances from a group of people but I wasn’t sure if it was because of my hobbling or my Adidas workout attire. Doesn’t anyone go to the gym on a Sunday?
The thought left my mind once I met a Trump supporter wearing a red MAGA hat and holding up a neon green sign. “Now showing Beto O’Rourke, giant arm and hand movements.” Obviously, I had found the right place, and I must admit, I laughed out loud- I couldn’t help it. Some Beto supporters in line didn’t appreciate my jovial moment so, I decided to suppress my chuckling for the duration of the rally.
I stood in the back of a snaking line that curved and coiled around the restaurant for about fifteen minutes before it slid forward. A youthful crowd lined up behind me in their Beto T-shirts in black and white, red and vibrant blue, and some even said, ‘Beto For Texas,’ while a few peddlers on the street sold buttons.
In spite of the chilly breeze, the morning sun raised the temperature on the ground about ten degrees along with that aroma of fresh tacos. I became uncomfortable. I couldn’t eat, and it’s not easy for me to stand for long periods of time. Thanks to my Swiss cheese brain, the nerves attached to my leg muscles tend to quake a bit. I leaned on my arm crutch or support while scanning the street for activity.
No sooner, a young man old enough to be my child, wearing a navy suit and polka dotted dress shirt that resembled a flashback to the 80s appeared in front of the street. I wondered if he was associated with the campaign. “No, I am just helping out some friends.” Oh, okay. He asked who I was so I said that I was doing a write up on O’Rourke’s visit. “Oh, let me get Taylor for you.” Within seconds, he and his I love the 80s navy attire vanished into the crowd. As the line continued to move, a young lady approached me. “Hi, I am Taylor, follow me, please?”
Being the obedient little worker bee that I am, I did what I was told and entered the restaurant through a side door. Inside, the local and national press corps packed like sardines on top of one another, setting up their cameras, tripods, while positioning themselves to get the first picture of the El Paso boy wonder driving up in his silver Dodge Caravan rent-a-car.
Nicknames. It’s a thing of mine, nothing personal.
With my legs feeling like toothpicks and ready to snap, I took the liberty of leaning against one of the Formica orange colored booths. To distract myself from the instant claustrophobia, my eyes spied a gold filigree Fleur-de-Lis styled cross hanging on the brick wall above the Rowe AMI jukebox, and a magenta-colored sign featuring a day of the dead skeleton’s head in a dusky fedora with a baby blue sash, and tacos stuffed with piglets. ‘Tacos de Puerco.’
El pastor Tacos again.
As the Associated Press and other media outlets snapped photos of the selected crowd, I met an interesting, middle-aged man sitting with his wife in the booth next to me. Marvin Guigui (pronounced as oui-oui) was to give the opening statement in Spanish to welcome Beto to Vegas. Within seconds, a box of Mexican pastries made its way through the crowd and landed right in front of me. Oh, Lord, rainbow-colored pan dulce, and I’m on a diet. Rats. “Want some?” the little boy asked me. “No thank you,” I said with a tinge of hesitation to my voice.
To distract myself from pangs of hunger, I locked onto a fire engine red-colored ice cooler positioned in the front of the restaurant. I laughed again. Was Beto planning to stand on top of this thing? This seems to be his modus operandi. The man is six-feet-four or close to it; why does he need to stand on top of a water cooler? I glanced at my watch.
Beto was late.
“Would you like to sit down,” asked a nice gentleman in the opposite booth. Boy, I wanted to but if I moved from my position, I may not get a photo of Beto entering through the door. “No, thank you, I’m fine,” I lied. A few moments later, I received six text messages from a few friends. “What are you doing in East Las Vegas?” asked one. “Hey, Why are you at the Beto rally?” asked another. Now, I remember posting my location on facebook just in case if a certain relative of mine didn’t know where I was but I did not expect for anyone to know that was O’ Rourke’s rally. “No, I saw you on TV.”
Say what?
Turns out local Fox 5’s live feed had my gray roots on display for the entire world to see. Damn. Make a mental note to see Eva ASAP. At least my fingernails were polished, long, and pretty for the camera. I quickly shot off a few text pics to let people know, “Ah, yeah, I’m working.” Yet most of my conservative friends, who would never even think of voting for O’Rourke, couldn’t help but ask, “So how is it? What did he say, anything good? Did you ask him a question?” I shot off another text replying, “You can read it later.” In a text from my liberal child, living in Malibu she responded kind of non-plussed. “He’s remarkably handsome for a politician. But I can honestly say, so far, I don’t like most of the candidates in this election, and my vote so far is for Warren in the primaries.”
Elizabeth Warren, the voice that grates like nails on a chalkboard Warren?
I bit down on my fist. Be nice, it is Lent so, be gracious, kind and considerate. Yet I had to let it sink in. My daughter was voting for Warren. Yuck. I am not an Elizabeth Warren supporter and my daughter knows it. To me she is Eunice Burns from the movie, What’s Up Doc. If you haven’t seen it, do so it’s Peter Bogdanovich’s best flick, and the late Madeline Kahn’s first film. My mind started engaging in mental gymnastics. Minus the Marlo Thomas’ style, carrot-top colored That Girl wig, Warren fits Eunice Burns to a tee.
With O’Rourke late, it’s easy to become distracted with other things like envisioning the dinner table scene where Ryan O’Neal hunkers underneath the table with Barbra Streisand, Austin Pendleton, Randy Quaid, the late John Byner, and for some unknown and strange reason a young John Podhoretz popped into my visual, meditating over whether to let Warren or Babs, two over the top opinionated liberals, dine with him at the same table. I don’t know why but he just popped in there.
The life of a writer, go figure.
I see Warren ever so vividly dressed in that poufy 70s powder blue chiffon dress, screaming her head off like a dying cow. “Who is that dangerously, unbalanced woman?” asks Austin Pendleton’s character. “John, John, tell them who I am. I insist that you right now tell them who I am.” John looks at her for the longest time as Babs whistles under the table then he states, “I’ve never saw her before in my life.” Sorry, for that brief intermission, it just popped in there.
But back to Betomania…
Inside of the restaurant there had to be at least fifty in the press corps. So, how many people did they expect to show? I asked several in the campaign and still couldn’t get a straight answer. One stated that the turnout “was more than they expected.” While there was a high overflow of people outside, inside it was fairly small. On Facebook, the attendance level of interest was to be 572; by Saturday 172 were signed up. I did hear that later that O’Rourke had another rally planned after Arandas’ that tripled the size compared to the Taco Shop. There were pics of him surrounded by a crowd of people while technically bouncing on top of the roof of his rent-a-car, so I suppose standing on top of a red ice cooler isn’t as interesting?
Hope he’s insured.
After four booming microphone checks, finally O’Rourke pulls up in the silver Dodge Caravan. And he’s driving it himself. I must admit, I did not expect that. The last presidential rally I attended had secret service SUVs flooding the street as if it were a funeral procession. This felt like the local high school teacher arrived for a school pep rally. According to a few of his fans from El Paso in attendance, this was Beto’s thing driving cross-country.
After waving at the onlookers engulfing the curb of the restaurant, he went to the front of the crowd and thanked everyone for coming. The press immediately turned around to snap pics through the windows of Beto with the microphone in his hand. I did too. After a condensed speech, O’Rourke entered the restaurant to chants of “Beto, Beto, Beto.” I didn’t chant but my stomach did. I reminded myself again to buy one of their tacos after O’Rourke finished.
Although he didn’t kiss any babies, he hugged several little kids. So many kids were in line to meet him from the ages of four to eighteen. It was quite endearing to watch. I enjoy seeing little children’s eyes light up in wonder after meeting someone that could be president.
After the chanting for him subdued, Marvin Guigui gave his heartfelt speech in Spanish. “We are the family Guigui, we want to say thank you very much for everybody to come here and support ex-Congressman and now a candidate to be president of the United States, Mr. Beto O’Rourke.”
To which O’Rourke replied in Spanish, thanking the family, and Arandas for the welcome on this important moment, and recited his detailed vision for America. “If anyone wants immigration reform, climate change, and to make the country better because we try to make everybody live with dignity and respect for all.”
Although he mentioned the president by name at least four times, mostly surrounding the tariff wars, and children separated at the border, he did not bash any republicans. I appreciated that, but sadly, I did not hear anything that would swing a NeverTrump voter towards Betomania.
O’Rourke while mentioning his road trip in Wisconsin, plans to court union workers, and farmers in the Midwest. Clearly, he’s vying for Bernie Sanders millennial voters and he just might get it. In 2016, Sanders promised Millennials everything under the sun from free-college, healthcare, jobs, and union work. Now the wanna-be-Tony Hawk skateboarder is doing the same but identifies more with the high school student struggling to go to college, and the star-struck fourteen-year-old that thinks he’s “dreamy,” and wishes she could vote for him at sixteen.
This should be a no brainer for the Sanders campaign: Bernie=old. Beto=young. He is the high school science teacher that lights a spark for every teenager’s Bunsen burner. If it’s any indication to the amount of teens and twenty-year-olds at the Taqueria, he plans a vigorous campaign in courting them. Unlike Sanders, O’Rourke vows to support whoever is the Democrat candidate because for him, “its about beating Donald Trump.” For Sanders, it’s always about Sanders. He is the left’s Donald Trump, and it amazes me that so many haven’t seen the parallels yet. But what do I know? I’m just a conservative writer spending her Sunday morning starving inside a local Taqueria chasing Betomania.
Still not feeling it.
As the microphone got passed around, the questions, although fluent, felt pre-selected. The first question was from a gentle, blonde fourth grader named Ruby Becker, asking about putting an end to gun violence. Now to be fair, here in Vegas, many children are still suffering from PTSD after the Route 91 mass shooting, so her question is understandable. But it still felt over-seasoned for the press. “I want to know how will you make schools safer with gun safety?” Beto responded by telling a story about his eight-year-old son Henry, and his teacher who Beto quips, “is probably working a second job because we do not pay our educators a living wage, who chances are has pulled eight hundred bucks out of her own pocket.”
Shrug. Talk about veering off course, here…
He then explained that most teachers in Texas wind up paying for hot meals for their students, classroom decorations, supplies, etc. Important issues for the crowd, but that wasn’t Ruby’s question. He’s getting back to the gun safety answer, or his son Henry, anytime now right? Not for another two minutes. Politicians are notorious for leading you down a primrose path before quietly responding to a cultural wedge issue. Guns in Nevada are a hot button. I own and have a CCW and lost a friend in the shooting, so this topic was important to me. Not once does O’Rourke mention banning bump stocks after our shooting, but goes for gusto about removing AR-15s. This is truly a liberal left’s dream scenario.
But back to Betomania…
He finally returns to the story about when Henry and his classmates were told to get inside a closet for an active shooter drill, “to prepare them for what many feel is inevitable,” says O’Rourke. How unfortunate that this is where our country is now. I can still recall as a child climbing under my desk for earthquake drills but this? No child should have to endure such terror inside a classroom. I do agree with him there, but we have a fundamental difference in the solution. “I say preventable because either this is our lot in life and our fate, there’s something inherently violent and deadly and evil about being an American, or this is a human cause problem with a human solution,” he says.
Whoa.
Those comments got my attention and the crowd. “You asked, what do we do?” Yes, Ruby asked four minutes ago. O’Rourke motions to the crowd with his hands and says without hesitation, “Universal background checks, that is without exception, for every American that buys a firearm, and ensuring that weapons designed for war and the battlefield, weapons designed for the purpose of killing people as effectively, and efficiently, a greater number as possible, stay on the battlefield are not sold into our community.”
Yeah, that will not work with independents, center-right and the second amendment absolutists here in Nevada.
But this is clearly a liberal pipe dream because if this speech gets replayed in Nevada, O’Rourke wouldn’t carry a tenth of the state. “That will make us safer, and that will ensure that we can protect more lives,” and then with a grin, Beto looks down at Ruby and says, “and then you can focus on learning, on getting ahead and that teacher can focus on you going forward.”
This is why I deduced earlier that this may be a peppered question that attempts to kill two birds with one stone, I guess?
Another example, a former high school student from El Paso that just happens to be living in Vegas now asks Beto about student debt. Scrunching my lips together as if I were Laura Holt from Remington Steele, my left vs. right side of my brain attempted to decipher if this is a genuine moment.
Beto says, less than five feet in front of me, “Great question, in our hometown of El Paso we are now investing in early college high schools. You can graduate at 18 years-old, not just with a diploma, but an associates degree under your belt, taking on no debt, not a dime, added to the one point five trillion dollars in outstanding student loan debt that our fellow Americans many of you in this room that are carrying on their backs right now.”
O’Rourke advocates for every American to attend community college, at a public university, publicly financed, debt free. Bernie Sanders has some hefty competition here in Nevada because the teen crowd loved that answer, and are fawning all over O’Rourke
O’Rourke prattles forth, this time about the greatest generation surviving during the Great Depression, and World War II. He paints with a broad brush that Americans need to return to the traditions of blue-collar Roosevelt, democrats, emphasizing the importance of having trade skills.
“Investing in each other and building to organize, and use our leverage in the workplace to ensure that we not only have better wages, and working conditions but that we are trained for the skills today and for tomorrow insuring, that we are college ready and career ready,” says O’Rourke “So that at 18 years old, you can join a union, enter an apprenticeship, have a trade and a skill that will make you competitive for your life, being able to work where you live. Nevada is now a leader in insisting that at least 15% of the infrastructure and public works jobs that are created that five percent of those are first-year apprenticeships.”
What is Bernie’s slogan again besides being just a crotchety old man, giving away free stuff to college students, and taking on the unions to be president? Let’s be honest, this message doesn’t work well for a man approaching eighty, and it may not even work for Biden. O’Rourke, already likened to Bobby Kennedy by his own party, doesn’t help Sanders or Harris break out with an image of their own with Millennials. But time will tell in the next few months. I still say this is Biden’s race to lose, and the rest of the pack is vying for his VP slot.
Not to be nit-picky here but except for the pearly-white smile, I just don’t see O’Rourke as Bobby Kennedy. Every time I glance at Beto’s charming, ski-sloped nose and boyish grin, he reminds me of a Japanese anime drawing from a Ranking Bass cartoon, whereas Bernie Sanders comes off as too intense, almost brooding, like Larry David in a pissed off mood. O’Rourke mimics a high school teacher that energizes his classroom before a pop quiz. Neither, in my opinion, acts presidential. However, to be fair, I did not attend Sanders’ rally the weekend before. It was St Patrick’s Day, and an Irish girl needs her shot of Jameson’s for Irish car bombs, and corned beef and cabbage. So the old man loses.
But back to Betomania…
A person asks about child separation in the border detention facilities, and this I would say is O’Rourke’s most passionate answer. With his voice now gravelly and strained, his response electrifies the crowd inside and outside. “Though we would like to lay the blame for this at the feet of the president, who deserves much of it, in a democracy where the people are the government, and the government are the people, for as long as these conditions persist, for as long as those kids remain separated from their parents, it is on every single one of us. So, not only must we follow our own asylum laws, and be there for those that have no other home to go to, who pose no threat to this country, in fact, contribute far more than they’re ever able to take, from America.” After a long pause for applause, he continued. “I want to make sure that we completely rewrite our own immigration laws in our own image. In the image of Las Vegas, in the Image of El Paso, in the image of the United States of America.”
Okay, I’d like to interject here. Do Democrats realize we do indeed have an immigration crisis at our Southern border? O’Rourke isn’t addressing the facts and this is where the left lose the bigger argument. There are undocumented immigrants living under the bridge in El Paso, O’Rourke’s hometown, and we as a country do not have enough border patrol stations to hold every migrant. This is what you call a frog sitting in a pot of boiling water, unaware of the temperature change.
But back to Betomania…
At this point, I’m gazing at Arandas’ green flier above Beto’s head, marketing their mouth-watering fish tacos in lime juice, and my tummy whispers…I want a taco. I still cannot get over the fact that he is standing on top of a fire engine red ice cooler. Picky me, checking to see if Beto’s Buster Brown-like shoes pop the look of my old 80s science teacher. Pretty darn close…
O’Rourke answers a question from a local high school student that followed his senate campaign and asks how to inspire young people to vote. O’Rourke explains although he came short, the youth turnout in Texas went up 500% in his senate race against Cruz, and that he is counting on that to be the vanguard of his presidential campaign.
“They [the youth voters] are the ones responsible with the fact that although we came up a bit short in the senate race, two Republican seats are now held by Democrats in the House of Representatives, from Texas.” O’Rourke’s microphone shorts out for a bit but he keeps going, raspy voice and all. “A county that voted for Donald Trump by 96%, we showed up there, because I hope that you agree, they’re every bit as deserving of being respected, of being heard, of being listened to of being fought for and I do not expect them to vote for me, or with us unless we first show up and earn their respect.”
Once, Cynthia, his campaign assistant passed the microphone to another person from El Paso, Beto greets him with an enthusiastic handshake, “Hey, good to see you.” It turns out that this man is a veteran advocating for suicide prevention in the military and is now living in Las Vegas. O’Rourke adds, “Last year we lost over 150 thousand, of our U.S Americans, human beings to drug overdose, deaths, and suicide. Veterans that have an honorable or in-honorable discharge, it is twice as high and thanks to you and other veterans in our community were able to write a bill signed by President Trump, supported by Republicans that allow those Veterans with OTH discharge to now get into the VA and see a provider.”
Then Beto shifts back to Wisconsin, the dairy farms, and trade wars. I suppose he is linking this issue now to suicide and opioid addiction? He then explains the largest mental health facility in America is the county jail system. “People throw a chair through a window to get arrested on purpose for their schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, or their depression to go to one place: A county jail cell that provides a roof over their heads, a shirt on their backs, food before them, and psychotropic medications prescribed that are otherwise, unaffordable outside of that jail cell that make life bearable even if only temporarily for them.”
O’Rourke jumps from one subject to the next, as if he’s running all the yellows at every intersection. Now on the topic of Obamacare, he says the one thing that guarantees that he won’t receive the entire Catholic Hispanic vote, a large chunk of Independents, or center-right on the fence pro-lifers: abortion. “High quality, universal healthcare, primary healthcare, mental healthcare, and every single woman in this country making her own decisions about her own body.” Have Democrats considered the possibility that late-term abortion legislation currently being pushed may alienate voters in their own party? It did my mother, a life long Democrat now an Independent who will not vote in 2020 for any candidate pushing abortion.
Something to consider…
Although O’Rourke, passionate about running, easily connects with young voters like Barack Obama did, like the former president he has a natural capacity to step on his own messaging the moment he gets the crowd’s attention. “Is there anyone here from Las Vegas in the room?”
Ouch.
Yeah, it’s not a good sign if the majority in attendance asking questions are from El Paso. To be fair, I met an enthusiastic Beto fan, Ryan McGurk from Long Beach, California. Ryan is so passionate about Beto, he holds up a photograph of himself with the El Paso boy wonder, in an attempt to get him to sign it. After Beto’s final speech McGurk stands in line like a star-struck teen as if he were a celebrity at Comic Con.
After twenty minutes, McGurk’s effort pays off just before O’Rourke’s about to make a mad dash to his Dodge Caravan. As Beto pulled out, animated beyond measure, McGurk couldn’t wait to pledge his loyalty. “I heard everything I wanted to hear, I’m voting for him, volunteering, going to knock on doors and do anything he needs.” I found it whimsical that while inside his dad’s rental, Ryan’s fixated on Beto’s Caravan, leaving the parking lot.
I asked a few more attendees what their reactions were to meeting Beto. Two military families: one refused to go on record yet proudly took her picture with O’Rourke, and the other originally from San Diego, brought her 14-year-old. While her daughter loved O’Rourke’s charm and dreamlike persona, she chooses to remain neutral. “I want to hear what the rest of the candidates have to say first before I make any decision.”
Before leaving, I caught up with the kind man willing to offer his seat to me inside the restaurant. “I’m really interested in him. He reminds me a lot of the late Bobby Kennedy,” says local Vegas resident, Tony Valenzuela. “He’s got so much of that, you know…” Honestly, I don’t know how this comparison came about unless it’s about O’Rourke using his hands while he speaks. Still, Democrats welcome the comparison. “The issue about the separation of children, he hit it right on target, and I’m going to do whatever I can to help him.”
As the crowd thinned relatively quickly, I made it back towards my vehicle. As I pulled into traffic and headed for the freeway, I realized that in my pursuit to interview a few Beto fans, my Swiss cheese brain forgotten something extremely important.
I didn’t get my fresh, el pastor street taco.
Great article, sorry you didn’t get a taco. If Beto undermines Bernie, which seems entirely possible, that alone will have rendered a valuable service to the party.
I don’t think I’m grokking the Trump comparison though; I mean if Beto is the lefts Trump then the left is in a hell of a lot better shape than I thought it is and I’m relatively positive about the left.Report
“I don’t think I’m grokking the Trump comparison though; ”
If Democrats don’t have their Trump, both sides can’t be the same. That’s why Clinton had to be as big a crook as Nixon, except he didn’t get forced to resign, which means to balance it he had to be a bigger crook.
That’s why Obama had to be an empty suit, promoted just for his skin color and his ability to “Read off a teleprompter” or else he’d not be the same as Dubya.
Beto has to be Trump. Clinton has to be Nixon. Both sides must, now and always, be the same.
“Both sides are the same” is a subset of “Whataboutism”, and it’s ingrained deep in many voters. Say you think of yourself as a smart, savvy person and it’s time to vote. But the candidate on your preferred side has a lot of rumors of corruption. As as smart, savvy voter you can’t vote for a corrupt candidate! Even if that candidate will caucus with the right party, nominate the right judges, vote the right way on the hot topics….
You have standards, right? You’re not a blind supporter — you know corruption and you know you won’t stand for it.
Except, of course, unless his opponent is just as bad. Actually he’s probably worse, you know how that side is — they get away with a lot more, ’cause of the media bias. So, best case, he’s just as bad as the guy on your side — but really, he’s probably a lot worse. Your trusted news source is full of rumors about the guy, he’s got to be dirty as hell.
So you might as well vote for your guy. Sure he’s corrupt, but they’re both corrupt, so no matter who you vote for a corrupt guy is getting in. Might as well vote for the one that picks the right judges, caucuses with the right side, etc.
And you can sleep easy, knowing you’re a smart, savvy voter who doesn’t blindly vote for just “your side” — you have standards you adhere to, and you never in a million years would have voted for that guy if the other side hadn’t put up someone so much worse. So really, it’s the other side’s fault.Report
To MORAT20 just a question. So if Obama was an empty suit who could read from a teleprompter what do you call Trump when he said it really didn’t matter that it rained when he was giving his 4th of July speech to the nation he is currently holding the highest office of and due to the rain he couldn’t read the teleprompter but it was fine because he had memorized it (maybe not his exact words), and he said among other things that George Washington and his troops were able to man the airports to prevent the British from seizing them during the Revolutionary War. Makes me wonder why the Wright brothers were wasting all that time trying to get a meager invention up in the air and fly for a few minutes. And why were they so excited when they were able to make such a great accomplishment when a little over 125 years earlier we already had planes and even airports where you land a plane so they didn’t have to try their homemade plane on a beach that was so much softer to crash on if they could get it up in the air and maybe they wouldn’t kill themselves when or if it crashed to the ground. And Andrew Jackson could have prevented the Civil War when Andrew Jackson died 16 years before the Civil War had begun. Just a few more things, what do you call a guy that said after attending a military school and he wasn’t drafted nor did he enlist due to a bone spur in his foot, at least that’s my recollection, because Vietnam just seemed so far away. Oh, boo who. I could continue with the examples, such as his tax returns, and the fact he refused to appear before Robert Mueller, and didn’t even answer all of the written questions, and that the moon was part of Mars, etc. Again I ask what do you call him? I call him a liar, a cheat, a crook, a coward, and a childish dumb a**, a white supremacist who stokes hate, and who knows less about the nation he is running than an elementary school child and can’t spell any better than one either!Report
Just to clarify so the opinion isn’t misconstrued: Bernie in my opinion, is the left’s Trump not Beto and I specify that above.
Thanks for reading, and yes, sadly, I did not get to eat my el pastor taco. I’ll have to go back.😎👍🏻Report
I’ve always seen it spelled “al pastor” (in Northern California.) Maybe it’s a regional thing.Report
I honestly am not sure on that I think you could be right. I just took cues from my Swiss Cheese brain which is known to be like autocorrect-incorrect at times.Report
I think it is what Morat20. There are a lot of people out there who really hate Trump and/or the GOP but all their priors are still strongly directed to tribal identity towards the GOP and/or even Trumpian policies himself. This is hating Trump for saying the quiet parts loud and vulgarly but not for the policies themselves as much. Maybe they would not crack down on undocumented immigrants or children as much but they are also not ready for Pathways to Citizenship or more immigration.
On this very blog, we have seen #NeverTrumpers complain about the state of the GOP but also that the Democrats are the crap team. One former OTer on Facebook predicted that Trump’s popularity would hit 60 percent because of the Barr exoneration.
A lot of people for reasons of cultural identity, geography, or whatever have been primed to hate the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is the party of those people. Those people being city dwellers whether minorities or culturally-elite snobs (culturally-elite in this case might meant the 25-year old public school teacher who likes going to museums on free days or splurging on brunch every now and then. How dare you put on airs and not like NASCAR like the rest of us.) But they are smart enough to see that Trump is a disaster but they can’t bring themselves to pull the D lever.Report
“Okay, I’d like to interject here. Do Democrats realize we do indeed have an immigration crisis at our Southern border? ”
We don’t have an immigration crisis. Net illegal immigration from Mexico is down a lot. It peaked in 2007 (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/12/03/what-we-know-about-illegal-immigration-from-mexico/). There are fewer illegal immigrants from Mexico (indeed, from all of South America) now than there were in 2007. Border crossings are down and have been trending down since well before Trump took office.
We have a leadership and management crisis. There is a set of self-defeating immigration directives from the WH that took an orderly, functional process and turned it on it’s head with no planning or preparation, leading to a complete collapse of a quite functional system into this mess.
For you to claim there is an illegal immigration crisis, you really need to explain how a significant trend downwards in illegal immigration somehow precipitated a crisis, or how “fewer illegal immigrants both crossing the border and fewer illegal immigrants living in the United States” somehow represents anything but a problem that’s getting better.
For the record, Democrats are quite keenly aware of the management crisis, and of the short-sighted, self-defeating directives issued by the Executive that led straight to family separation policies, preventable deaths, and kids locked in cages.
All against a backdrop, I cannot stress enough, of a fewer illegal immigrants. It takes a real “leader” to take a problem that’s getting better and somehow turn it into an absolute catastrophe.Report
Your article, originally posted in 2015, seems to be badly dated. Have a look at the current numbers from US Customs and Border Protection. The bright red line that’s way above all the other lines is 2019. That line ends at February with 76,103 apprehensions, which seems to be a new record, and ICE warns that they’re expecting it to surge far past that as spring rolls on, with 1.5 million illegals expected to come this year. That’s almost three times higher than in previous years.
Trump is saying he’ll shut the entire southern border down this week, and for good reason. He’s also cutting off aid to Central America.
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George, he’s talking about immigrants and you’re talking about apprehensions. As far as I know, you’re both right. We don’t have a surge of people getting into this country, but we do have a surge of people trying.Report
GOP logic: Things are much worse under Trump, therefore Trump needs to double down on everything he’s done to make it worse.Report
As Fox reports, Trump is cutting off aid to all the Mexican countries. (I am not making this up: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/436612-fox-friends-displays-headline-about-3-mexican-countries)
Anyway, trying to reduce the flow of refugees by making things worse is exactly what you’d expect from Trump. As is reducing illegal crossings by shutting down the legal points of entry. Oh, and if tariffs are a precedent, we’ll now all be subsidizing the business hurt by crippling trade with Mexico.Report
I pretty strongly suspect that completely shutting down the border is bluster. I’m more worried about the cutting off of aid, though hopefully that’s bluster too.Report
Yes, the president’s impulsive nature to react before assessing any situation is a deep concern. Which is probably why after he’s advised multiple times he reverses his own policy like using liquid paper. Can’t see Mulvaney agreeing with this one…or republicans on the hill.Report
It was updated in 2018 with the latest data, as noted in the piece.
Net illegal immigrants remains down by a full sixth from 2007.
Again, this is a crisis of management, not immigration.Report
We don’t have an illegal immigration crisis. We have a humanitarian crisis because too many voters have a xenophobic and racist fear of brown people and get anxious at the idea of whites being a plurality instead of an outright majority. Possibly they get anxious if whites are not an overwhelming majority.
Though the constant drumbeat from many on “illegal immigration” shows that fact-based, technocratic arguments and points are largely useless. People are going to believe what they believe, facts be damned as much as torpedoes.Report
We don’t have an illegal immigration crisis, but we do have a situation at the border right now that exceeds xenophobic fear of a non-white majority. One that Trump is handling poorly, but that Obama demonstrated is difficult for even an administration with good intentions to handle well.Report
Actually Obama didn’t do that poorly. He recognized the facts — we don’t have the money, manpower, or logistics to do something like “Stop everyone at the border and throw them into a holding facility until we process them”.
If you did something stupid like that, especially without a few years to and a lot of money to ramp up infrastructure and manpower to prepare for it, you’d end up with crowded holding facilities, children in cages, preventable deaths, and a bunch of other gross, public failures — without actually changing the end result.
He ended up focusing on the worst of the worst, ignored the ones already present unless they committed crimes, and most of those who came through were given a court time to show up to plead their case, rather than being held and then see a judge and then deported.
The attendance rate for the Court was above 95%, IIRC, and as the number of illegal immigrants in the US fell off by about 1/6th over his term, it must have been working.
Then Trump came into office, and he and Sessions decided on…this. Which has led to children in cages, and people in holding camps under bridges. Which the Tracey called an “immigration crisis” rather than incredibly bad management.Report
I’m referring to the border surge of 2014, much of the criticism of which comes from the left. There was a while thing where repeatedly people on the left pointed to alleged mistreatment of crossers by the Trump administration that actually predated it because even if you’re trying, border surges are hard to manage even with a “good guy” as president.
The main differences are that this one is much bigger and we have a president who is not a good guy.Report
Establishing immigrants, especially brown immigrants as undesirable Others is the policy.
The policy is carried out with the tactic of arbitrary displays of power and cruelty.
The United States could easily process and adjudicate any number asylum seekers, work visas, and green card seekers in an orderly humane way.
But Trump and his supporters don’t want that. They want to demonstrate that “None Is Too Many”.Report
A lot of these problems predate Trump. Believing Trump is bad and his policies are cruel is one thing (I agree!) but believing that without that there wouldn’t be problems is unfounded.Report
There have been numerous attempts at immigration reform over the last two decades.
They’ve failed, and it’s not from lack of willingness to embrace workable solutions from the left.
Obama was, like Democrats in general, constrained by the fact that the GOP is really stuck on the issue, and incapable of doing anything but shouting slogans.
Which is sad, because there are plenty of conservative solutions, a number of which slot right into a bipartisan immigration reform package, but in general those solutions are foreclosed by the more xenophobic elements of the GOP base.
The GOP is stuck in a bind — any sort of ‘immigration reform’ that is not “deport them all” will anger a very sizable portion of their base, opening them up to primary losses and lower general election turnout. Deport them all, however, is pretty much a non-starter with everyone else in the GOP coalition. (It’s radically unpopular, doomed to failure, and the PR side is likely to anger quite a few people. Children in cages, after all).
That is not due to Trump, but Trump is very much the current face — and a living exemplar — of the exact portion of the GOP base that has prevented any actual movement on immigration, leaving the Executive stuck trying to deal with insufficient funds and manpower for the mandates placed on them.Report
As far as I know, not a single Obama proposal would have prepared us for 4000 asylum seekers a day. Or 1000, for that matter.
And you keep acting like kids in cages didn’t occur under the Obama Administration. It didn’t occur as often because Obama didn’t separate families to scare would-be seekers away with mistreatment. Which is my point: It’s hard enough even with good intentions. I think where you guys are misleading yourself is that it’s easy if you care and are competent. I think the Obama Administration is both, but they also recognized that some problems are actually problems even if Republicans say they are. Dealing with that kind of surge is one of them. I hope Democrats will have a plan, or that it is just easy and the Obama Administration committed unforced errors.Report
Again, we DO have the financial and logistical capability to handle 4,00 people per day, IF the Republicans would allow it.
Obama wasn’t constrained by technical feasibility, but by political feasibility.
And again, no one can articulate why simply letting these people come in and work on their citizenship while they live here is a problem.
Everyone just wants to start out every discussion with the baseline assumption that “Immigrants are a problem”Report
We don’t have the capacity. We could build it, but we don’t have it. We would need to allocate the money, then get the contracts, then build and buy and hire the people we need. All of which can be done, but have and would take time.
Did Obama ever ask for it? Probably not because he never had need for it. He did have need for 1000 at one point but by the time he would have built it, it would have looked like the probably had passed.
You’re right that it’s a political problem in that you could theoretically make it happen from a logistical standpoint. But there’s not much reason to believe that it’s the Republicans specifically preventing it. That implies that if the Democrats had unified control they’d to it instead of using that money and political capital pursuing other priorities. I’m skeptical.
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“As far as I know, not a single Obama proposal would have prepared us for 4000 asylum seekers a day. Or 1000, for that matter.”
You mean besides the way he did? Process them, set up a court date, and have them appear to determine the validity of their claims?
And of course there’s stuff like the “Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013” which would have helped quite a bit, but despite passing by a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, Boehner never found the time to bring it up for a vote.Report
Just to be clear, they didn’t actually deal with the numbers we’re talking about and the policy you refer to happened only after the courts had to step in and tell them to cut it out with the indefinite detentions, which they were doing to try to dissuade people from coming (sound familiar?).
Let’s not forget, though, about deporting thousands of them who never made their court date often because of faulty notification procedures (and, if we’re being honest, a desire to adjudicate a lot of cases on a limited amount of time with not-unlimited resources).
Then there are stories of the abuse within the system.
Including, of course, kids in cages. Some of the most circulated pictures of the whole Trump fiasco turned out to be from the Obama administration. (Which, along with the ACLU report, and some of the reports of “missing children“, became a pattern of confusion over which bad things happened under whom.)
There was a lot of angstiness on the left about Obama’s handling of the situation.
I’m actually a defender of the Obama administration on a lot of this. There are, to my mind, critical differences between what they were dealing with the best they could and the problem Trump created last year via his own policies. But it was a clusterfish that caused them a lot of problems.
I’m not sure where you are getting this idea that it went swimmingly, but it really didn’t and a lot of the complaining comes from the left. Clinton would have done better than Trump is going to do (and last year’s chaos wouldn’t have happened to begin with because that was all Trump), but it’s a tough situation. People who worked for Obama say so.
Not as far as I know. That dealt with a lot of different aspects of immigration from those already here to those wanting to come here legally and illegally. But not really asylum.
The closest it comes is if the administration misused some of the work visas to handle asylum claims. That would have risked another set of problems.
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Back when I was freaking out about this, I pointed out that Obama deported more than any other president in history.
“Ah! We don’t know that he did *PER CAPITA*!”, came the response.
Because it didn’t matter so long as he wasn’t setting records. (And we never even cleared up whether he did set records… I couldn’t find per capita numbers. But the fact that I couldn’t *PROVE* it, made it not matter.)Report
No. You clearly don’t understand The Narrative. Obama and the D’s want the openest borders that were ever open to flood the country with illegals. Obama didn’t do anything about The Invasion and the D’s never tried to compromise with R’s.Report
Clearly, you do understand it.Report
But Whatabout Obama isn’t doing any work here to excuse away Trump.
Maybe a unified Democratic control of government wouldn’t be perfect, but it is certain it would be better.Report
Or put another way, you could remove the GOP from the equation entirely. Entirely. Pretend that instead of Republicans we have an NDP. You still wouldn’t have a government capable of handling 4000 cases a day. If you did, the vast majority of the time they would he standing on their hands, and the accommodations we’d have while processing them would be sitting vacant the vast majority of the time. All of the money being spent on that being not spent on something else like education or health care.
None of this is a defense of the Trump Administration. Rather, it’s a statement that the problem exists independent of who occupies the White House. The differences are in how they confront the problem and what their aims are.
But people who are trying to argue that there is no problem except the administration aren’t just arguing with me. Among the people trying to sound the alarm are Obama’s DHS chief. And among the people who had a problem with Obama’s handling of the previous one is the ACLU.Report
It is a crisis because…we are apprehending and holding too many people?
Then why re we holding them, instead of releasing them to pursue their various forms of application?
Why not use the border wall money to hire more processing personnel and caseworkers?
Why not increase the number of legal visas we give out?
There are many, many other ways to handle the influx of asylum seekers, work visas, and green cards, other than a deliberate policy of exclusion, which I agree predates Trump, all the way back to the Irish immigration.
The crisis only is a crisis because of that policy.Report
“Then why re we holding them, instead of releasing them to pursue their various forms of application?”
That’s what Obama did. And IIRC, something like 95%+ of them showed up to their court hearings later. All on their own.
Like I said, the current “crisis” is a failure of management. The issue of illegal immigration has been roundly ignored (mostly because all attempts at legislative changes have been stymied by the GOP’s own internal struggle over the issue) for at least two decades.
Thankfully, net illegal immigration is down and the number of illegal immigrants in America is down, and under semi-competent management the system limped along.
Under less competent management, of course, you get children in cages, migrants housed in facilities under bridges, and dead asylum seekers.Report
And even the 5% who didn’t show up, are a problem because…well, no one can say exactly why they are a problem.
Because they became productive law abiding members of society.
So the “crisis” is not what the immigrants are doing…the “crisis” is that they exist.Report
“You still wouldn’t have a government capable of handling 4000 cases a day. If you did, the vast majority of the time they would he standing on their hands, and the accommodations we’d have while processing them would be sitting vacant the vast majority of the time. All of the money being spent on that being not spent on something else like education or health care.”
Agreed! 👍🏻Report
“But this is clearly a liberal pipe dream because if this speech gets replayed in Nevada, O’Rourke wouldn’t carry a tenth of the state”
I guarantee you that O’Rourke can still win Nevada by saying this, because that was the political policy of Hillary, I have no problem believing she said it, and she rather easily won NevadaReport
But Hillary was charismatic and didn’t make any mistakes.
Can we trust Beto to be as skilled as Clinton was?Report
Banning AR-15’s is not what her policy was. We have four gun shows a year. Three shooting galleries, and Northern Nevada is the rural area. Nye County specifically would vote against this.
Universal background checks- yes. That passed. But banning guns?
No way. The fundamental difference is how the left cannot grasp conservative culture.
Mental health policies now like Rubio’s I can get behind.
Nevada may have a blue chunk down here in Clark County, but there are plenty of center right and independent voters here that would balk at such a proposal.Report
Good stuff Tracy
For the Church of Need, state power is a addiction. My prediction is that the candidate that offers the highest value of “appearance” of achieving state power and deployment of the preferences of the church will get the leftwards vote. (By default the highest authoritarian the left can muster.)Report
I sense you are correct. 👍🏻😎Report
It doesn’t look like I commented on this yet Tracey but great piece! Really felt like I was there! 🙂Report
Thank you my friend:) 😊Report
The other day I ran across an amusing take on Beto. A female author said that women were quickly getting over him, since he was like that ex-boyfriend. Way too into himself, convinced everything he utters is profound and insightful, always going jogging to “clear his head”, always too busy with his latest cause to do anything useful for them, and still searching for himself. She said the type is good for about three fun dates, and that’s about it.
I can totally see that now.
I was reminded of it when I saw a take down of Beto’s response to a student who asked how he justifies his lack of charitable contributions when he’s a multimillionaire (which amount to 0.3% of his income). His response was that every day he gets up and contributes so much good to the world. That is how he contributes, by letting the world bask in his goodness and brilliance. Woohoo!
Yeah. He’s one of those boyfriends.Report