Freddie: categorically imperative
Progressivism (for lack of a better term) suffers from a ton of maladies. But if I had to isolate one underlying issue that threatens political progress more than any other, it’s this: the deepening progressive belief that all good people must treat all claims to offense or harm as legitimate. That is a congealing orthodoxy that is both powerful and unspoken. It has become, in short order, a default moral presumption of media Twitter; it has, with things like the letter a US Congresswoman sent about the Genius scrap, come to infect a much wider world of politics and business. Those who are unwilling to call any particular claim of offense or harm legitimate are presumed to reject all of that kind of claim of offense or harm. So if someone says “I don’t believe that this constitutes harassment,” the immediate response is to say that they don’t care about harassment writ large. To say “this campus protest appears counterproductive” is to be told “you reject all campus protests.” To say “this particular accusation of racism does not seem to meet the standards by which we assess racism” invites the claim that you don’t oppose racism at all. All stances towards offense and harm are taken to be categorical statements, and all right thinking people are presumed to fall on the side of accepting all claims as true.
This is, frankly, a ludicrous thing to believe. It renders human life impossible. The basis of morality is discrimination — the ability to assess the evidence of a particular claim to offense or harm, apply your best moral reasoning, and arrive at a personal judgment about the truth or falsehood of the claim. There is no way for either an individual or a society to proceed with the work of life if they are not empowered to say to some “this claim of harm is legitimate and we must act accordingly” and to others “this claim of harm is not legitimate and we will not undertake the action you demand.” In a democracy, it’s politically suicidal to ask people to set aside their right to sort different claims of offense and call some true and some untrue. It is simply too far from most people’s prior beliefs about what adult life is and means. Treating all claims of harm as legitimate makes police and justice reform impossible, as it naturally provokes more and more engagement by the judicial system. And it leaves you vulnerable to the worst kind of cheats, opportunists, liars, and frauds possible.
From: categorically imperative | Fredrik deBoer {via Zac}
It’s it me or is Freddie starting to sound like Jonathan Haidt?Report
Breaking news: fanatics are difficult to reason with and understand neither nuance nor strategy. To punish the unorthodox is easier and more enjoyable than to engage the enemy. Equally true at all points along the spectrum; easiest to see as one approaches polar cluster points.Report
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Freddie is largely critiquing the actions of young adults in the 18-22 year old range. We are not talking about people who have mastered the arts of rhetoric or nuance yet. I can find plenty examples of young (and not so young) conservatives being attracted to inflammatory rhetoric and people would tsk tsk me for saying the entire right is like the 18-22 year old kids. Let’s give the young kids a chance to get the flames of passion out of their systems.Report
Well, that’s just not true at all. Some of his critiques include college kids, but it’s pretty obvious that Freddie’s beef isn’t with them. His beef is mostly with the ecosystem of journalists, activists and politicians that enable this sort of behavior and keep the focus on progressive status signalling instead of on what Freddie considers meaningfully advancing the cause.
If you want to gig him for setting himself up as the arbiter of what is and is not meaningful progressive work, that’s fine, but don’t make stuff up.Report
In Saul’s defense, most progressives sound like they’re between 18-22.Report
I had this realization twenty years ago as a undergraduate philosophy major. Specifically, it was in regard to post-structuralist schools of thought and the project of deconstruction. You can easily get to a point where you have so deconstructed the world around you that you lose all basis for making decisions, morally, ethically, epsitemologically. At that point, all that’s left is a struggle for rhetorical power, or worse.
Deconstruction is only half a project. At some point, you have to put the pieces back together.Report
Yes, the point of refining something is to remove the dross from what is precious.
Post-structuralism leaves nothing but ash.Report
it was in regard to post-structuralist schools of thought and the project of deconstruction. You can easily get to a point where you have so deconstructed the world around you that you lose all basis for making decisions, morally, ethically, epsitemologically. At that point, all that’s left is a struggle for rhetorical power, or worse.
Well said. Like, really fishing well said.Report
Freddie is really being offensive.Report
Anyway, progressives don’t treat all claims to offense or harm as legitimate. Take for example, the claim that gay marriage offends and harms religious conservatives. Or that affirmative action offends anyone’s sense of fairness or harms the person who doesn’t get whatever the prize was.Report
From reading Freddie’s recent posts he seems like he is in a better spot with his life and his blogging has improved. Good for him.Report
Agreed.Report
I know he is a former alum but I take the LGM stance on De Boer. He seems to think he is the savior of all things that afflict and harm the left and if the left would only listen to him and make him Capitan. He is also rather off-putting and arrogant in his prose tone in my opinion.
Even when he is saying something interesting, he manages to have a kind of smug view.Report
Freddie has always seemed to relish an argument which brought a lot of righteous shouting. Even when he had a good point it would be lost in the harsh wind. But the LGM guys have their faults and could be described themselves the way you describe Freddie. Freddie has been making a lot of good points but has toned down a lot of his volume and shouty ness which is good. He seems less arrogant recently to me and that is good since his good points shine better.Report
Freddie’s biggest problem is that things are so very obvious to him that it frustrates him immensely when people don’t reach the same conclusions that he has. He can tell the difference between right and wrong. He knows how to set priorities between the perfect, the good, and the better.
Why in the hell haven’t you done so?Report
That is one way to look at it. Another way is that Freddie can tell the difference between right and wrong, something that a surprising number of professional typists have trouble doing, and that he is better at setting priorities, which is all just a longer way of saying that Freddie is much smarter than most of the people he spends time criticizing.
Is that a problem? More importantly, is it Freddie’s problem?Report
Is that a problem? More importantly, is it Freddie’s problem?
Good question. I suppose the answer involves what the goal is.
Is the goal something measurable? Then let’s measure it.
Is the goal something intangible? Then I suppose we can argue over intangibles.Report
I’m a fan of Freddie but I don’t think it’s so much about right and wrong as it is he insists on intellectual honesty. It’s his best trait and why I like him. However, in a world where a lot of political writing falls either into the view from nowhere or full throated affirmation of the audience intellectual honesty can come off as really harsh. I see a similar dynamic in a lot of the criticism of Glenn Greenwald from the left.Report
I’m not sure how you can say this isn’t about right and wrong. If Freddie is right (spoler alert: he is), the overwhelming majority of people who have made it their private and professional passion to correct the world’s injustices happen to be spectacularly bad at even correctly diagnosing those injustices, much less formulating any coherent and durable movement to correct them.
The intellectual honesty defense starts to break down when the errors are of a fifth grade reading comprehension types. At that point you have to start wondering if some of these folks just are not intellectually up to the task.Report
We’re in complete agreement, I think I may have misread the intended breadth of your comment. I was talking about the larger and ongoing debate Freddie has been in with internet/social media leftism, not just this particular post.Report
Oh look, tone policing.Report