Sunday!
In any given argument about art and what it consists of and what its goal is, one of the things that inevitably comes up (at least when I’m arguing!) is how one of the important goals of art is to get you, the viewer, to say “I need to engage in creation myself.”
The famous quotation about the Velvet Underground made by Brian Eno said something to the effect of: The first Velvet Underground album only sold 30,000 copies, but everybody who bought it started a band.*
In that same way, Bob Ross is the Velvet Underground of oil painting. Okay, maybe not everybody who watched a Bob Ross video went out and bought supplies, but a huge number of folks actually *DID*. As such, if one of the goals of art is to get others to create art for themselves or others, Bob Ross is probably the guy who did this more than anybody else. Now, of course, we’re not talking about art that would end up in the Louvre but it is art that you could put up on your own wall and be proud to show it to others (who might then go out and decide to paint something themselves).
In any case, Bob Ross’s art was such that he described as maybe something that wouldn’t show up in the Louvre, but you’d be proud to put it on your own wall.
And more than that, he was a legitimately kind person. Sure, he had a manner that practically demanded parody but, underneath that, it seems that that was what he was actually like. There are all kinds of stories about little things that he did like when a person came up to him and explained, “Oh, I can’t paint, I’m colorblind. I can only see grey tones”: Bob Ross devoted a show to painting in grey.
Now that’s amazing.
Until recently, Bob Ross’s shows were only available on DVD from the PBS store (over a grand if you wanted the complete set!) and you could only watch two minute clips here or there. Recently, however, Twitch.tv bought the rights to Bob Ross’s shows and they have mini marathons every Monday and plans for full marathons every October 29th to celebrate Bob Ross’s birthday.
And, as a happy accident of that, Bob Ross’s shows are now on YouTube as well.
https://youtu.be/zNa0CFkftrE
Now, I’m one of those who just watched the shows and said “maybe I could do that…” rather than one of those who actually bought supplies and started putting brush to canvas but… man. I can totally see doing something like that someday. In the meantime, I’m just delighted that Bob Ross is on youtube.
So… what are you watching and/or reading?
*The actual quotation is “I was talking to Lou Reed the other day and he said that the first Velvet Underground record sold 30,000 copies in the first five years. The sales have picked up in the past few years, but I mean, that record was such an important record for so many people. I think everyone who bought one of those 30,000 copies started a band!” but that actual direct quotation is less iconic.
(Featured Image is “Edison’s Telephonoscope” by George du Maurier from Punch Almanack for 1879)
I made the mistake(?) of loading the player in the car with Jesus Christ Superstar this week. Now I’ve got odd bits and pieces of that stuck in my head…Report
A short-term problem, because eventually it’ll turn into “The Best of Queen”.Report
I can see where that might happen to an analog medium like tape. How about digital content loaded on an old iPod nano?Report
Evan easier, just some thorium atoms going off at the right time.Report
Oddly enough, even though I am in no way religious, that is the one musical I will listen to by choice.Report
And more than that, he was a legitimately kind person. Sure, he had a manner that practically demanded parody but, underneath that, it seems that that was what he was actually like
Well, at least later in life:
Also, Ross came up at the AVClub not too long ago, and there was a commenter who was legit mad at Bob Ross, because they felt Ross was insufficiently open or grateful about his debt to William Alexander. It was bizarre.Report
Dude, just check out the first minute of this one:
https://youtu.be/3QlAy6Rhn6
I’m just confused.Report
Linky no worky.
Anyway, the commenter really took this situation personally, despite the fact that from what I can tell, Ross vocally appreciated all that Alexander had done for him and it’s not really Ross’ fault that he became the better-known of the two. It was just such a strange hobby-horse, not really for the situation (we’ve all been there, bemoaning the fact that [predecessor] doesn’t get the recognition of [follower]), but for the fact that it was in re:….PBS’ Bob Ross.Report
Dude, I watched it right before posting it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfBCPGRyv74
Try that one.Report
I have been reading William Styron’s Tidewater Mornings, simply fantastic. It is so nice not to read a bloated fiction and the work of a master in such breavity.
Also, as @glyph introduced me to a quite good series on Kubrick films, I shall soon be engaging in a marathon of his works.Report
As an unabashed Kubrickphile, I’m tempted to join you.Report
Well, I went to the library and checked out 2001 and Stranglove, so…Report
I own both of those, along with A Clockwork Orange, Paths of Glory, and Spartacus. Son and I are doing 2001 tonight.Report
Well, I am busy tomorrow, but I will try to squeeze in 2001. This is what I have been reading. I don’t agree with him about Clockwork, but I think that it is one movie that escapes contemperary critism. He is spot on with FMJ, which is what leads me to that thought.Report
Clockwork has a degree of difficulty so high that I have no problem existing its flaws. Plus, it’s absurdly quotable, and 17 year old me was so blown away by it that I will never not love it.Report
Dude, I love Clockwork Orange. I even thought the film was better than the book, which was also great.Report
No love for Barry Lyndon?Report
That is the one film of his (outside ephemera) that I haven’t seen, it is now on interlibrary request.Report
Its pretty darkly funny.Report
It was also filmed entirely with natural light!Report
I like it, just haven’t bought it.Report
I don’t care for the story, but I’ll sit and watch the cinematography and listen to the soundtrack music all day.Report
The story isn’t to everybody’s taste. I personally like the first part of the movie better than the second part dealing with Lyndon’s fall. The cinematography and music are gorgeous along with the great detail placed in the customs. They get the feel of the 18th century Europe right.Report
Way too sympathetic to Goldwater.Report
I’m much more inclined to watch The Killing over CWO. CWO feels to me to much of its time and aged badly although it does have masterful parts. But Sterling Hayden is magnetic and human despite his flaws in The Killing. The rest of teh cast is fleshed out with developed characters. CWO has a lot of shock value mostly and some good shots.Report
CWO is on my list to rewatch fairly soon, as I think it is on Hulu or one of the others. My general thoughts, from reading that series of article that @glyph lead us to, is the writer accepted too much of Foucault’s critism* and that CWO doesn’t work under that paradigm. But we shall see.
*He mentions a specific line from F in one of the articles that I think strongly works against his critism of Clockwork. But again, we shall see.Report
My wife and I just got through about a week and a half’s worth of binge watching season three of Arrow on Netflix. I’m going to have some thoughts about that experience to share in the near future.Report
My son and I have been watching this as well, albeit at a much slower pace. He’s almost given up on it a couple times, but somehow we’re still watching it.Report
I’m glad to hear that you’ll be sharing more information soon, Burt. Arrow has been on my Netflix list for awhile now. Be careful, what you say may change a person’s life forever… Or I’ll watch it anyway. 😉Report
I’m reading the Lyre of Orpheus by Robertson DaviesReport
That is one of the books I love most in the world and also one of the ones I find most frustrating.Report
My favorite Davies book is The Cunning Man, followed by World of Wonders.Report
@aaron-david I think both of those are probably better than Lyre of Orpheus, with my Book Evaluating hat on…
But I read Lyre of Orpheus about 6 months after I first started attending a prestigious college in a Canadian city…. so it will always be my sentimental favorite.Report
Jaybird and I have FINALLY caught up to the right spot in Babylon 5, ie one episode ahead of the most recent Babylonia! I started the Almighty Johnsons (Norse gods in NZ) yesterday and I loved it so far (as well as being grateful to be watching a show that doesn’t over-explain everything and just assumes you will get most allusions on your own or catch up eventually). Staying caught up on iZombie, Jane the Virgin, and The Librarians, as usual.
I’ve been reading a ton. The most delightful thing I’ve read recently is a tie between:
– a huge bilingual anthology of photos and very short (most less than a page) literary pieces called Reading Writers Reading (U of Alberta Press), more than a decade old, but still chockablock of the fresh and new
– a fairly recent middle-grade kids’ book called Hamster Princess: Harriet the Invincible by the ever-wonderful Ursula Vernon. That one is definitely going to be making into the gift guide (and under the tree of my oldest niece) so I will spare you the gushing until then.
Still listening to Proven Guilty, and have decided if I am ever going to finish the 2 stockings I am cross-stitching for my friend and her nephewson for Winter Holiday in time to mail them, I need to listen to more audiobooks and podcasts and do less of other things. So in the hopper I have a collection of modern Sherlock Holmes pastiche (edited by my favorite such pasticher, Laurie R. King), and also Maggie Stiefvater’s the Raven Boys. And then the six dozen or so episodes of my favorite podcasts I need to catch up on. (I’ve been behind ever since the one-two August punch of going to Canada and then starting the school year the moment I got back. Plus Pop Culture Happy Hour puts out a LOT of episodes y’all.) Plus the entire archives (almost) of the Coode Street Podcast from before I started listening to it. And all Mahvesh Murad’s old radio shows. And then a list a mile long of more podcasts to explore that I made when I realized ALL of my current favorites except one are pretty much made by white people (and all of THOSE except three only have dude hosts). And then I bookmarked two different sources of french language audio books of public domain classics because eeeeeeee, I am going to Paris in March, and while I used to be near-perfectly fluent, my ear and voice have gotten a lot rustier than my eyes and brain have…
*deep breath*
Yeah, I know, the real reason I haven’t made more progress on the stockings is obviously not the lack of stuff to listen to. But it helps me to pretend.Report
I’m excited for your trip to Paris, Maribou. I’m really glad you are talking about things to listen to. I’ve been trying to find Podcasts that I like for work, but I haven’t been very successful. I did listen to two full episodes of Comedy Bang Bang and that wasn’t bad. I think I’ll try Pop Culture Happy Hour.Report
Just started Stranger Than We Can Imagine – An Alternative History of the 20th Century, by John Higgs.Report
Apparently Higgs can imagine it.Report
The linked Amazon page calls it Stranger Than We Can Imagine: Making Sense of the Twentieth Century, even though it displays the book cover with the correct title. I can’t imagine how that happened.Report
It just doesn’t make sense.Report
No it doesn’t, but what’s the alternative?Report
Higgs claims there is an alternative, but that’s his story.Report
Just finished Season 2 of Penny Dreadful. Not quite as good overall as Season 1, but the highpoints were really good. Really interesting the way they are weaving in Victorian horror and some new takes on it.
As for Bob Ross, he inspired me to actually paint. I had comical arguments with my high school art teacher about technique. He HATED Ross’ quick style of painting and thought it was lazy. My position was that the end result was solid and who cares how you get there. I totally agree that the most important takeaway is that he got people to try painting.Report
Season 2 of Penny Dreadful
I was debating blowing some Amazon credit on this – is it worth $30? I enjoyed S1, but if S2 is a step down, $30 seems steep.Report
So picky you are. The only real step down of PD S2 for me was that it was no longer new. Correcting for that, it was arguably of at least equivalent quality vs S1. It was continually a show I looked forward to, maybe the one I looked forward to most when it was appearing, as the Good Lord intended television serials and serials in general to be experienced, in periodic installments, and the finale was, I thought, overall pretty darn terrific. I feel like spoiling it for you right here just to punish your show of uncertain faith in Eva Green, but to tell you a single thing about how it ended up, and for that matter about how it started out and where it went, would be to steal whichever discovery from you.Report
Mainly, I’m just a cheapskate.Report
Agree it’s dreadful that you can’t get it for a penny (though I bet you could get screeners for free, in advance, if you made a mission out of it).Report
My wife and I have been watching Hanzawa Naoki, but in Japanese. I hear there’s an English subtitle version out there somewhere. It’s worth getting into if anyone can find it. The show itself concerns a sort-of Game of Thrones-esque power struggle among employees at a Japanese bank, with lots of plot twists and whatnot, but it’s actually quite light and exciting.Report
Does it count if it is an audio book? I’m “reading” Sonia Sotomayor’s My Beloved World during the slow times at work.
I watched the entire season of Master of None on Netflix.Report