Thursday Bar Fight #12: Just Like The Travelling Wilburys, Only Not Really
Good news, everyone!
In an attempt to reverse trends in flagging record sales, the music industry has agreed to allow you to create an all-star superband to be The Next Big Thing. All you need to do choose the actual band members. You can choose any personnel you wish, provided that the band has at least four members but no more than six.
Added bonus: As a show of gratitude, the industry has agreed to pay you .0002% of the net proceeds from album and concert ticket sales. So not only do you have the opportunity to go down in history as the greatest music producer of all time, you also have the potential to become obscenely rich as a result – provided that the band succeeds, of course.
And therein lies this Thursday Night Bar Fight quandary:
Which musicians do you choose to be part of your all-star band?
Keep in mind that, as always, there are some additional rules and stipulations:
- Once chosen, everyone in your superband will be contractually obligated to play together as one unit for ten years; they will not be allowed to play in any other bands or pursue solo careers during this time. The only way for them to be released from this obligation will be to retire from the industry altogether. Should a member decide to quit, you will not be allowed to replace them. Because of this it might be wise to consider things like egos and bad histories – assuming that longevity in a band is important to you, of course.
- Because we don’t yet have the power to raise the dead (thanks a lot, Obama!), the musicians chosen must be currently living.
- Everyone chosen will be as they actually are in real-life 2013, with all of the normal aging and life expectancy issues. Should a member pass away or become too infirm to continue over the next ten years, you will not be allowed to replace them. So choosing someone like, say, Keith Richards to be your lead guitar player might be kind of a crapshoot.
- Only those musicians chosen now will be allowed to record and perform with the band. There will be no additional set musicians allowed, either in studio or concert. So if you choose six great guitar players, for example, there will be no bass, drums, keyboards, etc. on your recordings.
- Each member chosen will be allowed to play only one instrument for the band. Ben Folds may be able to play drums, bass, guitar, violin and keyboards, but for this band he can only play the one that you choose. There are two exceptions to this rule: Any musician can be a vocalist as well as an instrumentalist, and guitar players like Bob Dylan who also play the harmonica will be allowed to continue doing both. (Obviously, you are still allowed to have one or more of your musicians be singer/rapper/vocalists that play no instrument.)
- The band will not be allowed to record covers, songs they have previously recorded, or songs written by anyone not in the band. Because of this, you may wish to take into account the ability to compose as well as perform music.
- You are not allowed to choose multiple musicians from the same band. You are therefore allowed to choose either Paul McCartney or Ring Starr, but you are not allowed to choose both.
And as is often the case, there is a bonus question as well:
What all-star band would you make if all the above rules applied, except that you had to choose all deceased personnel?
Ready? Go!
Note: Thanks to Kazzy for coming up with the concept for this week’s bar fight.
If you have an idea for a future bar fight, please feel free to leave it in the threads, or send me an email or tweet at the addresses linked to below.
By the way, for those unfamiliar with the titular Traveling Wilburys: They were a super band from the late 1980s who recorded the minor hit Handle With Care.
Their personnel consisted of George Harrison from The Beatles, Tom Petty from The Heartbreakers, Jeff Lynne from Electric Light Orchestra, Roy Orbison from Springsteen’s Thunder Road Lyrics, and Bob Dylan from that guy Bob Dylan.Report
The greatest supergroup ever assembled. End of conversation.Report
I love it when we agree.Report
It was kind of a low bar to clear. Most supergroups suck bigtime.Report
It’s what makes the Wilbury’s accomplishment so astounding. Also: Jeff Lynne’s production is amazing.Report
“Handle With Care” is such a good song not even Conor Oberst’s hated presence could screw up the stellar Jenny Lewis/Watson Twins cover.Report
In fact, I think I am going to compose mine SOLELY out of members who have been in supergroups, and produce a superDUPERgroup!Report
Be sure to include someone from Me First and the Gimme Gimmes.Report
Well, you better pick someone from Lords of The New Church – former members of the Damned and the Dead Boys, in one band!Report
Gimme gimme gimme some Russian roulette.Report
You gotta love a band where the singer actually died on stage for 5 minutes.Report
Yet in country music, you often see two stars sing or play together. I don’t know why the difference.Report
I would have to go with Cream.Report
Is it me or are we such different generations that when I saw traveling wildbury’s I thought of the nickelodeon cartoon wild thornberries/Report
Ah, wild thornberries! I watched that growing up! I liked the concept for the show, but its not a practice lifestyle for children. It’s fun to dream though.Report
Tough rules. Between no former bandmates and one instrument, you knocked out my entire lineup (Eric Clapton, Steve Winwood, Phil Collins, and Peter Gabriel).Report
GREAT lineup thoughReport
Thanks for using the idea, Tod! As I said when I emailed it to you, I don’t think I’d have an answer. But I hope others do!Report
Actually, I have a semi-answer…
Freddie Mercury on vocals.Report
I’m glad somebody brought up Queen.
I was listening to this last night, and thinking the electric guitar (right up until the end) sounds like it’s being played with a slide in a reverse tape loop. (the link is cued to the part where it does it the first time)
Anyone here with better ears than me with an opinion on this?Report
I’d be very interested to see what kind of crazy new music the following individuals would produce together:
Brian Eno, Bruno Mars, Jay Z, Kanye West, Laetitia Sadier, Bob Dylan
Bonus (same rationale): Bach, Beethoven, Nat King Cole, Miles Davis, Michael Jackson, Harry PartchReport
What instrument would Kanye get? Would he get a full mixing board? That might be cheating…Report
Musical responsibilities would be shared in this group.Report
But, I mean, what would Kanye do?
Don’t get me wrong… I love the guy’s talent and music… but I’m not sure his talents translate to a more traditional rock-and-roll band. Would he primarily write music and then just get downplayed when it actually comes to making the songs?Report
“what would Kanye do?”
Worst selling line of Christian-themed bracelets ever.Report
You mean “Who would Kanye do?”Report
Why does it have to be a traditional rock-and-roll band?
Also, I sort of put this group together with the aim of assembling innovative students of music from diverse musical backgrounds to create something new. Kanye has a proven history of collaborating well with other talented artists, and that’s primarily why I chose him.
Likewise, could you imagine how Beethoven and Bach would work with Harry Partch?Report
Great points, all of them. Play on, sir!
But… who is Harry Partch?Report
He was a mid-century genius/nutbird composer who invented his own scales and new musical instruments.Report
Sadier: Starts singing Marxist theory
HOVA: The hell is this shit?!Report
Michael Sadler (Saga): vox
Eric Gales (The Eric Gales Band): lead guitar
Judah Bauer (Jon Spencer Blues Explosion): second guitar
Roger Manganelli (Less Than Jake): bass
Martin Deller (FM): drums
That would be my first choice.Report
Less than Jake! I’ve got a potential Wednesday music post on them over at MD coming up!Report
I’m so fishing tempted to just make an All-Jersey supergroup (Brian Fallon on vocals/lyrics/guitar, Lauryn Hill on vocals, Max Weinberg on drums, Zack Wylde on guitar, and maybe Bryan Kienlen from the Bouncing Souls on bass), but I’ll restrain myself and instead make a grunge-heavy supergroup with a Jersey influence.
Lead vocals, guitar – Chris Cornell (Soundgarden, etc.)
Vocals, lyrics, guitar – Brian Fallon (Gaslight Anthem)
Drums – Dave Grohl (Nirvana, Foo Fighters)
Bass – Jeff Ament (Pearl Jam)
Sax – Kenny GReportTechnically, Cornell and Ament were in Temple of the Dog together. Would that disqualify them?Report
D’oh! Having just defended that record a few weeks ago, how did I forget that?Report
Kind of just tempted to re-unite the Backbeat Band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFzL0X9pLNAReport
So long as it features Kate Pierson on vocals, I’m happy to listen to any band you assemble.Report
Cheerfully ignoring the rules:
Guitar: Pete Townshend
Bass: Paul McCartney
Drums: Ringo Starr
Lead Vocals: Roget DaltreyReport
Dude, as long as you are ignoring the rules, get astrological (and necromantic) and swap out Starr for Moon.Report
Oh, if I could include dead people, my chief songwriters would be Lennon, Townshend, and Ray Davies, Moon and Entwhistle in the rhythm section, and Hendrix on lead guitar. Young Elvis singing along with young Aretha.Report
I found a link on youtube the other day (which eludes me now) of Hendrix playing “Daytripper” with Lennon. Very cool.
It sounds pretty much like the Beatles right up until the solo. (go figure)Report
Just curious, am I the only one who–in the instant before realizing “Roget” Daltrey was a typo–envisioned the band composing songs with incredible vocabulary?Report
thats funny right thereReport
Ryuichi Sakamoto: old school synthpop grown into delicate, intellectual beyond-classical world music.
Brendan Bayliss: jam artiste and songwriter extraordinaire. I’d take Jake Cinninger, too, but I can’t include two band members.
Tony Levin: everything below 2kHz.
Rick Marotta: the different drummer.
Madeleine Peyroux: an inimical voice.Report
Oooooh. I like Madeleine Peyroux.Report
Geoff Rickley – Vocals (Thursday, solo work)
Hope Sandoval – Vocals (Mazzy Star, solo work)
Adam Franklin – Vocals, Guitar (Swervedriver, Toshack Highway, Adam Franklin and Bolts of Melody)
Eric Quach – Guitar (DestroyAllDreamers, thisquietarmy)
Matt Gentling – Vocals, Bass (Archers of Loaf)
Mike Marsh – Drums (Dashboard Confessional, The Avett Brothers) [Marsh may not be the best drummer out there, but he’s good enough and incredibly entertaining live.]Report
Oh, here is my deceased line up:
Ian Curtis – Vocals (Joy Division)
Kurt Cobain – Vocals, Guitar (Nirvana)
Layne Staley – Vocals, Guitar (Alice in Chains, Mad Season)
Elliot Smith – Vocals, Guitar (solo work)
Mark Linkous – Vocals, Guitar (Dancing Hoods, Sparklehorse)
Jason Molina – Vocals, Guitar (Songs: Ohia, Magnolia Electric Co.)
So, yeah, this would likely be the most depressing band ever, as everyone either committed suicide or destroyed themselves.Report
I’ve changed my mind:
Ian Curtis – Vocals (Joy Division)
Kurt Cobain – Vocals, Guitar (Nirvana)
Elliot Smith – Vocals, Guitar (solo work)
Michael Dahlquist – Drums (Silkworm)
Mark Linkous – Vocals, Bass* (Dancing Hoods, Sparklehorse)
Jason Molina – Vocals, Guitar (Songs: Ohia, Magnolia Electric Co.)
*Linkous was primarily a guitar player, but also played bass, so I’m switching him to bass to round out the sound.Report
Hmm… most of the people I want to pick are dead, so here’s my band:
Vocals: Karen O, ’cause she’s fun.
Gee-tar: David Gilmour (preferably from the Wish You Were Here era and not The Division Bell era)
Gee-tar 2: J Mascis, ’cause that fuzz is going to sound awesome under Wish You Were Here era Gilmour
Bassist: I was torn between Victor Wooten and Les Claypool, but because of Tod’s arbitrary and totally unfair rules, picking Wooten would rule out another of my selections, so I’m going with Claypool.
Banjo: Bela Fleck (hence no Wooten)
Keyboard: Garth Hudson
Drums: Billy Cobham
We need a songwriter, though, so I’m going to go with Neil Diamond behind the scenes.
Oh, and Mix Master Mike when we need someone on the turntables.Report
Dude,
I was listening to Nights With Alice Cooper a few months back, and he played a song from The Division Bell. After the song, there was like a ten-second pause, and then Cooper just dryly said: “That was a song from The Division Bell. I didn’t really listen to a lot of Pink Floyd then.”
We’re not worthy, indeed.Report
I don’t mind The Division Bell, but I prefer ethereal Gilmour to more sober Gilmour. The only time I was able to see them was during The Division Bell tour, when they would play the show in two parts: pre-Division Bell (including one song from A Momentary Lapse of Reason), and The Division Bell. That second part was cool, but that first part? A religious experience, even without Roger Waters.Report
I would have picked David Gilmour for my band (below), but I decided he’s too predictable at this point in his career. If you want to soar, there’s no one who’ll take you higher. I love his work. But I’m thinking of the band over the next ten years. There’s got to be room to grow. Maybe I should pick an already-all-star band and not have to worry about their development.Report
OK, after listening to Eveningland on the way home, I’m changing my vocalist to Sally Ellyson.Report
I know most of these guys are pretty old, but I have been cut off from popular culture for a very long time.
Stan Ridgway – vocals
Bootsie Collins – bass
Ritchie Blackmoor – guitar
Ginger Baker – drumsReport
I would say that set-up needs a sax.
But that’s just me.
Cool choices.Report
Feel free to suggest a sax player. I couldn’t come up with one still alive off the top of my head.Report
Bob MintzerReport
Raphael Ravenscroft – He’s a session player mostly, most famous for “Baker Street”. I saw him in David Gilmour’s band in the 1980’s.Report
I was scrolling and saying “nobody mention Bootsie, nobody mention Bootsie…”
And there he is. Bootzilla.
Anyway, my list would be:
Chris Cornell – Vocals
Bootsie Collins – Bass
John Frusciante – Guitar
Is Carmine Appice still alive? Better just stick with the guy from Toto… Simon Phillips -drums
And producing? Trevor Horn.Report
I almost adopted a cat because it was named “Bootsie Collins”.
I didn’t know it was a real person’s name.
But it is an awesome cat name.Report
You know that rap song with the hippity and the hoppin that you like so much with your backwards cap and walking on your jeans?
They sampled Bootsie for that song.Report
Awesome.Report
I knew I should have gotten that cat.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=fdKyxCORelk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfdKyxCORelkReport
The Allman Brothers Band. That’s all the Super Group I need. Gregg and Duane Allman. Dickey Betts. And now Derek Trucks (anyone want to start a religious war about who’s the best guitar god alive?!?!?!?) and Warren Hayes (Gov’t Mule).Report
I’d start with Jordan Kaulback.
And his whole setup is his instrument; you cannot separate the guitar, keyboard, microphone, voice, and looping pedals apart, he plays them all at once.
Rest I’ll think on.
This a live solo performance at a private summer festival.Report
We should also have a chick band.
Vocals – Roberta Flack (she’s still alive)
Bassist – (the other) Michael Steele
Lead Guitar – Jennifer Batten
Drummer – Is Karen Carpenter still alive (too soon), okay, Jody Linscott.
Oh, and have Missy produce it.Report
One problem with this: “they will not be allowed to play in any other bands or pursue solo careers during this time”… That knocks out quite a few people who I wouldn’t want to restrict…
But, putting that aside, and putting aside the concept of making money off of this band (they will exist purely for my own enjoyment):
Emmylou Harris (vocals)
David Rawlings (lead guitar)
Jim James (rhythm guitar)
David Grisman (mandolin)
George Porter Jr (bass)
Rodney Holmes (drums)
Be a fun combination of more country-oriented musicians with a funky jazz rhythm section. And, if that rhythm section doesn’t work out for some reason, we’ve got a ready-made acoustic four-some.
For the bonus question, gimme Jerry Garcia and any combination of other musicians. Let’s say Garcia, Duane Allman, Jack Cassady, Levon Helm and John Coltrane. And what the hell, throw in Ray Charles as well.Report
1980s Super Goup:
David Bowie (vocals)
Gary Numan (keyboards / vocals)
Nick Rhodes (keytar)
Jeff Lynne (guitar/pipe)
Rudy Sarzo (bass)
Alan Myers (drums)Report
I’m seeing some good stuff above, but, well…
We need to boil this down a little, as six, well, you couldn’t get that many people on the stage at CBGB’s, and if you can’t play there, you are not rock*.
Four, still too much fat on those bones.
Power trio:
Marc Ribot – guitar
John Medeski – keyboards
Brann Dailor – drums
* yes, I know about CBGB’s having closed.Report
Most of the musicians I’d like to choose are past their prime, so to speak, and I’ve tired of watching once-great performers try to stretch their careers to the point of sullying the memory of their heydays. I really want the rules to allow choosing band members from when they were in their prime. I’d love to get the younger Mark King (Level 42), Donald Fagen (Steely Dan), Neil Peart (Rush), Al Jarreau, and Rickie Lee Jones together.
So, sticking to the rules, rather than picking well-known artists, I’m going to put together a band of young prodigies that have impressive YouTube videos:
Guitar: Tina
Bass: Michael Lima
Keyboard: Ameri
Drums: Sara
Vocals: Jasmine Thompson
I am a little worried about the songwriting abilities of this group, but assuming they can come up with something, imagine how cute!Report
John Mayer – guitar & vocals
Tim Reynolds (occasional member of Dave Matthews Band) – guitar
Grant Hutchison (Frightened Rabbit) – drums
Joe Walsh – guitar
Mayer and Hutchison both do some interesting stuff with rythym. They’re also near the beginning of their careers, which will be important for a ten-year run. I might have gone with Dave Matthews as the second guitarist, but he can be too Dave Matthewsy. Joe Walsh has his best years behind him, sure, and I don’t know if he’d fit in the style of the band, but I figure he’s just going to wander in and out of the studio at random anyway, and while he’s there, you get Joe Walsh (which is a pretty amazing thing to have). Anyway I have to get to four members.
I would have gone with Joss Stone for vocals, but if John Mayer is the horndog he’s reputed to be, I couldn’t do that to the poor girl. I don’t hear too well in the lower range, so I’m not going to pick a bassist. And it bugs me that I can’t think of a younger (post-Emerson Lake & Palmer) keyboardist who is interesting.Report