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Marchmaine in reply to InMD on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25I think the premise that someone like Cass is working with is that Trump and Musk *aren't* on-board. This isn't a Trump/Musk explainer. Folks like Rubio have flirted with these non-orthodox ideas (they go broader than simple tariffs) but as Cass says, Politicians are lagging indicators -- they rarely lead the way. Cass mentions a few other folks on the economic side with whom I believe he has a direct line. So yeah, that's what makes some of the Stewart interview 'funny' to watch, Cass doesn't have a mission to trash Trump... so he just let's Stewart's jokes roll over him... and he's pretty clear that he thinks Trump/Musk are not competently executing whatever plan it is they think they are executing (that's the point of the article). But his audience isn't Trump/Musk/McConnel or any of the Old Republicans or MAGA cultists... he explicitly says the targets are 40-under. Post-Trump is pretty explicit in his by-line...
Jaybird in reply to InMD on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Musk seems to have flipped from Grey to Red (though who knows how long that will last). Cass is an old-schooly kind of guy and seems to be the type of Team Red that no longer has a home under the new Stupid Party Paradigm. A man out of time but 100% comfortable in the party of McCain and Romney. Team Rust?
InMD in reply to Jaybird on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Eh maybe...? I mean admittedly I am not the closest Musk follower but my take on him is that his two big political priorities, construed most charitably, are about institutional and/or economic efficiency and a pseudo libertarian set of social values. These things are both in direct conflict with at least 2 of Cass' 3 big ideas, those being balancing trade with friendlies and coordinated anti-Chinese protectionism across the democratic world. If you really wanted to give Cass a kind of push you'd say congratulations, you've re-invented the US led liberal world order, just with our allies paying their own freight on defense and being a little less touchy feely on certain questions of values. Maybe also a little more nakedly self interested in our approach to global capitalism. But that's also not really what Trump is doing, by haphazardly threatening tariffs against friend and foe alike and calling into question our ability to lead the kind of alliance Cass says we should. It also doesn't seem to be what motivates Musk.
Dark Matter in reply to Chris on A Grudging Concession About Something Trump DidThe Good: 1) Tariffs on China. 2) What he's done with Israel. 3) Dismantling DEI and understanding it's like opposing someone's religion. The Neutral (or with holding judgement): 1) I'm not going to put paper straw in there because it's a nothing burger. 2) I'm also not going to include cozying up to Russia as a bad thing because it looks like that's going to blow up. 3) I'm also going to withhold judgement on damage to rule of law because that's yet to come to a head... but lots of potential on this one. The Bad: 1) Various tariffs for the sake of tariffs. 2) Mistreating our various allies (this would be a long list btw) 3) Hiring anti-vac people to head up Health. 4) General lawlessness and basically being at war with the judicial system. 5) Hiring people who are incompetent and firing the competent people below them who are needed to carry out policy. 6) General chaos and unwillingness to use governmental tools in appropriate ways. Rather than Musk's group we should have a copy of what Gore did as VP. 7) Getting rid of large amounts of gov competency without any effort to do a cost/value eval on it first (note I would have included bureaucracy reform as a good thing last time) 8) Apparently taking Russian info war stuff as legit information. 9) Going serious Tax-Cut and Spend. 10) General lack of stability. I think he's suffering from some age related dementia. Some of this is chaos of administration transfer, having very new people in their jobs, and a negative relationsh…
Jaybird in reply to InMD on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25This isn't exactly the Grey Tribe (though Musk has overlap with them and Thiel is Grey to the bone). Gold Tribe?
InMD in reply to Marchmaine on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25The ideas are worth taking seriously but the conceit that Trump (or Vance, or Musk) understand or are motivated by them is.. a tough sell. I mean maybe if Rubio was president you could see there being challenges selling some of this in the face of institutional inertia and a fickle public raised on a Steven Spielberg version of World War 2 and the years immediately after but does anyone else in the administration have this kind of vision? I'm unconvinced.
David TC in reply to Dark Matter on Trump’s Most Insidious Scheme (So Far)That's a law enforcement agency arresting, for months or years, people who not only have not committed a crime, but no crime actually existed at all. They just _mysteriously_ looked at the person and decided they were here illegally. You don't think that's meaningful?
Jaybird on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Welp, they're going for the death penalty for Luigi Mangione. Sacco and Vanzetti, 2025.
Marchmaine on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Come for the Jon Stewart fun, stay for the autistic nerd talking about the new-center-right economic policies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgEQeLR-M0g To me, Cass is interesting for his Pre-Post-Trump positioning... I think he fumbled a couple answers ... I don't think he quite gets across his message that NATO doesn't have to be destroyed to become renewed/reordered effectively (it kinda gets tacked on at the end after he meanders a bit); and I think he's too circumspect 'implying' what he pretty much says, which is that the Trump Admin is poorly run and even if you enact some policies that *could* be good, if you do them haphazardly and without a clear outline of what other countries can do to amend behaviors to bring trade into alignment... then you aren't doing good policies at all. Or, per usual, the Trump Admin undermines everything it touches. It's pretty clear that his long-term Post-Trump objective is tied to younger parts of the party... but he doesn't define his future goals as either supporting Trump nor directly taking Trump to task for botching things up. He addresses this second point directly in this essay (probably written after the interview, I assume) where he critiques the administration for not articulating the point, direction or correction behind tariffs. So, if you were looking for a steelman on the Point/Purpose of Tariffs if handled by a competent administration, this is your article. https://www.understandingamerica.co/p/americas-three-demands A…
Chris in reply to Brandon Berg on A Grudging Concession About Something Trump DidWhat are some good policies?
LeeEsq in reply to Saul Degraw on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25The movie Brazil is not really that amusing in real life.
Dark Matter in reply to David TC on Trump’s Most Insidious Scheme (So Far)From 2012 to early 2018, ICE wrongfully arrested and detained 1,480 U.S. citizens, including many who spent months or years in immigration detention.[86] A 2018 Los Angeles Times investigation found that ICE's reliance on incomplete and error-prone databases and lax investigations led to the erroneous detentions.[86] From 2008 to 2018, ICE was sued for wrongful arrest by more than two dozen U.S. citizens, who had been detained for periods ranging from one day to over three years. Some of the wrongfully detained U.S. citizens had been arrested by ICE more than once.[86] The inaccurate government data that ICE used had shown that both immigrants and U.S. citizens were both targets of being detained. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement#Wrongful_detention_allegations So they screw up about 200 times a year. They deport about 750 people a day. Last year 271,484 So they mess up less than one time out of a thousand.
Brandon Berg on A Grudging Concession About Something Trump DidReally? That's it? I'm far from his number one fan, but if you can't off the top of your head name several legitimately good policies he's put into place---among many very bad ones!---then you might have drunk too deeply of the neurotoxic waters of Portland.
DavidTC on A Grudging Concession About Something Trump DidFurther, the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy is directed to prepare a national strategy to discourage the use of paper straws in non-governmental settings as well. It's weird, I thought we were on some sort of extreme cost-cutting major to reduce the size of the government, but we're building some sort of policy office to try to convince people what sort of straws they should purchase for themselves or for a business to provide to customers? And odd a Republican Administration is doing this, isn't this exactly the sort of thing conservatives don't like? Yes, I know, it's utterly pointless to point out the hypocrisy, but I feel at least someone needs to at least write it down for the record, so here my completely pro forma comment about it.
David TC on Trump’s Most Insidious Scheme (So Far)These reports, as well as others that include accounts of ICE arresting and detaining US citizens, also make me think that ICE is challenging ATF’s reputation as one of the most lawless and unaccountable federal law enforcement agencies. LOL. Tell me you're a conservative without telling me you're a conservative. ICE has always been completely lawless, in every possible way, since it was created. It just generally restricted itself to being lawless against brown people. Now, it feels free to move on to other people too. It also used to have to turn people over to the courts, and it doesn't have to do that anymore. But all this has been ICE, for the two decades it has existed. This is how it always has been, it didn't suddenly get worse.
David TC in reply to David TC on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Oh, just be clear: This is indeed extradition in a legal sense. When we talk about extradition in the country, we usually think of the _specific_ legal process that is commonly used. But extradition, under international law, is any prisoner handoff between governments that is done via some sort of transfer agreement, whether or not that includes a court proceeding at either end.
David TC in reply to Saul Degraw on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Wait, they're arguing that the prisoners in El Salvador are no longer under US control? That they are not merely holding our prisoners, but we transfer authority to them ? I assumed their defense was the exact opposite, that El Salvador was basically operating as a private prison. I feel that has very serious legal implications that they have not thought through at all. Specifically, the United Nations Convention Against Torture: Article 3 1. No State Party shall expel, return ("refouler") or extradite a person to another State where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture. 2. For the purpose of determining whether there are such grounds, the competent authorities shall take into account all relevant considerations including, where applicable, the existence in the State concerned of a consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of human rights. *ahem* https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/el-salvador/ Significant human rights issues included credible reports of: unlawful or arbitrary killings; enforced disappearance; torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment by security forces; harsh and life-threatening prison conditions; arbitrary arrest or detention; serious problems with the independence of the judiciary; arbitrary or unlawful interference with privacy; extensive gender-based violence, including domestic and sexual violence, and femicide;…
Saul Degraw in reply to David TC on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Well I suppose making everyone hate us in one way to encourage world peace
Saul Degraw on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Trump admin admits an “administrative error” made it send an immigrant with protected status back to El Salvador but then added, “welp the card says moops” and we can’t do anything https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/an-administrative-error-sends-a-man-to-a-salvadoran-prison/682254/
Saul Degraw in reply to Burt Likko on Trump’s Most Insidious Scheme (So Far)The problem is getting people to understand and appreciate this. There seems to be a decent segment of the population who thinks “if you are arrested, you must be guilty of something.”
Dark Matter in reply to Philip H on Trump’s Most Insidious Scheme (So Far)You can if you want... although this kind of stuff is the big reason I didn't vote for him. At some point this will come to a head, but I expect he'll have to lose some popularity before that. Probably also need to lose Congress. What the next administration will also be very interesting. A lot of lines are going to be crossed, we're going to have a lot of criminal activity done during this administration.
Jaybird in reply to LeeEsq on Martin Niemöller, and Who First They Came ForApparently, you have to keep an eye out for the guy who loftily explains that the time for argument is past.
Jaybird in reply to Marchmaine on A Working Man ReviewedI haven't even seen a "you know, it wasn't *THAT* bad" review yet. The two buckets I've seen so far are "it's as bad as you feared" and "it's worse than you feared".
LeeEsq in reply to Philip H on Martin Niemöller, and Who First They Came ForNot to our general liking. We are stuck between a rock and a hard place because much of the further left is demanding that we take loyalty oaths to things we cant support like the right is demanding loyalty to oaths to things we can't support. It's dealing with two idiot armies saying that "no, you're the anti-Semite" among themselves while ignoring what actual Jews are saying. “Hashem, please grant me the confidence of a non-Jew explaining to me what is and isn’t antisemitic”
LeeEsq in reply to Jaybird on Martin Niemöller, and Who First They Came ForThe left always struggled with anti-Semitism because Jews don't fit into any neat place in their cosmology and also because a lot of the left is anti-Semitic. "Anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools" became a saying for a reason. For a lot of the left, anti-Semitism can come across as resistance or even emancipatory because Jews are associated with capitalism and power. Others really don't want to criticize groups they are sympathetic to when they engage in anti-Semitism or want to ignore it if something viewed more important is at stake. The other big issue is that basically the Pro-Israel and Pro-Palestinian sides are basically occupying completely different factual universes. They can't agree on anything. Most Jews until you get to the extremes edges are going to see the various aliyahs and Zionism as a response to the persecution Jews faced and an attempt at Jewish national liberation. The Prp-Palestinian movement is incapable of understanding why anybody would be sympathetic towards Jews or Israel at all.
Philip H in reply to LeeEsq on Martin Niemöller, and Who First They Came ForAnd yet Trump seems to be speaking for you quite regularly.
Philip H on Trump’s Most Insidious Scheme (So Far)Is now a good time to say we warned you?
LeeEsq on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Trump administration turns it's dark eyes towards California's sex education program: https://apnews.com/article/california-student-gender-law-trump-investigation-07fe08e17ca23c9228eb58705fba06ed
Philip H in reply to Saul Degraw on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Better then nothing at this point.
Philip H in reply to David TC on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Idiots.
Burt Likko on Trump’s Most Insidious Scheme (So Far)Due process is not a cookie you have to earn through your innocence or your charisma. It is a restraint upon the exercise of government and it is the core reason the United States of America exists. If you don't believe me take a read through the Declaration of Independence and see how many of the grievances against King George III had to do with the procedural administration of justice. Due process includes the right to have a competent lawyer, of your own choosing if you've the means to choose one. Scaring lawyers out of being willing to accept cases by the free agreement between attorneyand client, deterring lawyers from accepting the cause of unpopular litigants, arguing for legally valid positions that are inconvenient to the government -- if you do that, you're opposing the bedrock of America's tradition of law and order. Don't believe me? Ask John Adams, our second President. A lawless President, a felon, a man who has his entire life shown no respect for nor understanding of the law whatsoever, is hardly behaving out of character by assaulting the rule of law itself. What is disheartening is how many people are going along with it.
Dark Matter in reply to InMD on Martin Niemöller, and Who First They Came ForInMD: We either live in a world where people can deal with these kinds of questions, including when they’re asked in ways many may deem offensive, or we can’t. The human brain is a patter matching device. There is a temptation to draw a line between something we don't like and something else we don't like and claim they're connected. That kind of reasoning often says more about the person talking than the event. So when Jerry Falwell claimed 911 was the fault of the US because we tolerate gay rights, I don't feel the need to respond in a logical way. If we're trying to draw a line between 911 and US foreign policy, then let's link to what OBL claimed the motives were. In no specific order, we have... 1) US support for Israel 2) OBL's strategy to expand his group. 3) Sanctions against Iraq 4) US troops in Saudi Arabia 5) Global warming. 6) Tolerance for Homosexuality. 7) Tolerance of Alcohol 8) Charging Interest rates. 9) Tolerance of Gambling 10) Tolerance of Drugs 11) Tolerance of Sex 12) Conflict in Somalia, Chechnya, Kashmir, Lebanon and the Philippines 13-16) American cultural imperialism (Hollywood, Women's rights, Media Companies, and having a larger GDP than Muslim nations). His culture and worldview were very different. He didn't have a rational outlook from our point of view. He was a Jihadist and wanted to make more Jihadists and was deeply offended by people who weren't. Should we be offended by a question that says we're to blame for us being terrorized? Yes we sh…
David TC in reply to InMD on Martin Niemöller, and Who First They Came ForI think you give the game away when you ask if I know what ‘important rights’ are, so much so that everything in your comment before and after is best interpreted as a kind of nihilism, not a real attempt to grapple with the rights or principles in play, on the merits. No, actually, I was just being sarcastic, about the incredibly limited imaginations of privileged people who cannot conceive of actual right violations, so instead they glom on to 'Someone said something and other people got angry'. Being invited to speaking at a university is not a right at all. No one has a right to be platformed by the government. At all. Ever. It's a privilege. Now, the government is indeed also forbidden from discriminating based on viewpoints in how it hands out privileges (Something to remember when we're talking about visa.), but if we are going to judge _this_ sort of viewpoint judgement on government platforms as a right violation, we need to understand that this happens near continuously, in literally every context that the government platforms a speaker. In fact, 'guest speaker at a college' is one of the few circumstances where content of their speech is not the determining factor to their platform in the first place! Usually the government explicitly platforms someone because they knew exactly what that person would say. There is something very suspicious this specific form of platforming is the violation of someone's right. Surely the fact that a person _invited to give the comme…
Saul Degraw on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25Cory Booker is doing the good old fashioned speaking filibuster: https://bsky.app/profile/andreapitzer.bsky.social/post/3llpltezhnk22
Marchmaine in reply to Jaybird on A Working Man ReviewedMy 17yo daughter went to see Snow White last weekend... when she got back I asked, 'So, was it woke?' 'Worse,' she said, 'It was boring.' I suppose that's what they mean by underperforming as word of mouth gets out.
David TC on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25China, Japan, and South Korea have teamed up to respond to US tariffs. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-03-31/china-japan-south-korea-will-jointly-respond-to-us-tariffs-chinese-state-media-says I repeat. China, Japan, and South Korea. In case people are not aware of the relationships between those three countries, none of those countries really like each other that much, mostly because of historic reasons and arguments over said history and how it is understood. All three relationships have slowly been strengthening recently, but this is, frankly, a huge and somewhat unprecedented step. Absolutely no one saw this coming. It's entirely possible we're about to lose basically all of our East Asian influence to China.
Jaybird in reply to InMD on Martin Niemöller, and Who First They Came ForOh, yeah. For what it's worth, the stuff they dug up about Ward Churchill *WAS* worth firing him over. Plagiarism! I mean, now we know that it's complicated but back in the day it was an actual sin! And he was so egregious that it embarrassed the institution which, I've already said, is the only unforgivable. Which turns the discussion into "would they have brought out the fine-tooth combs if Churchill hasn't embarrassed the institution?" and the answer to that is "of course not". But, at that point, you've got yourself a pickle anyway. The Gibson's Bakery thing is the one that gets me to say that academia has no idea how much good will they've lost and the sheer number of grads who are screaming for debt relief are making that relationship even worse. The grey tribe is going to learn what it hates about the red tribe good and hard again, but when it comes to academia? I'm not sure that the red tribe will do a whole lot of harm to the red/grey alliance based on the academia thing. Academia is part of why the greys left.
LeeEsq on Open Mic for the week of 3/31/25NYC Doctor shocked to find going on an anti-Semitic rant gets her fired from the Jewish hospital she works at: https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/ny/nyc-doctor-fired-over-antisemitic-rants-praise-for-hamas-hezbollah/2025/03/31/
LeeEsq in reply to Dark Matter on Martin Niemöller, and Who First They Came ForJews are the monkey in the middle as the Right and Left play a game of "No, you're the anti-Semite " between them. There have been many Jews listing our problems with anti-Semitism on the Right and the Left for years since 9/11 but nobody really listens to us on this issue. "Hashem, please grant me the confidence of a non-Jew explaining to me what is and isn’t antisemitic" has become something of a thing among Jews recently.
LeeEsq on Martin Niemöller, and Who First They Came ForFor what it's worth, most American Jews do not want Khalil and other people detained and deported because of their political opinions regarding Israel even if we retch and said political opinions and found the Pro-Palestinian protest movements on campus to be a lot less innocent and righteous than they presented themselves at being. Most of us voted for Harris though.
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