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  1. Oscar Gordon says:

    I am less disturbed by people not wanting the vaccine* than I am the vitriol this kind of thing seems to inspire. Especially by so called conservatives who should be philosophically fine with this.

    Few people seem to have developed even a modicum of a political philosophy, which, I suppose, is why populist politicians are getting as much traction as they are.

    *And I am disturbed by the number of people who are avoiding the vaccine.Report

    • InMD in reply to Oscar Gordon says:

      It all goes back to Trump putting concerns about the economy killing his re-election prospects above everything else with the virus. The irony of his short-sightesness is that had he used masks, vaccination, etc. as a rallying point he’d probably still be in office. Instead he fed his people their idiot bait and we still have the ripple effects.Report

      • Mike Schilling in reply to InMD says:

        Trump never asked his base t do anything they didn’t already want to do. It’s the secret* of his popularity.

        * in the same sense that Boris Johnson’s marriage is secret.Report

      • Oscar Gordon in reply to InMD says:

        See, we are using idiot bait all wrong. You use bait to catch the idiots and remove them from the ecosystem, not encourage them. That’s not bait, that’s chum.Report

    • I’ve been wondering if this will contribute to an increase in the Big Sort kind of trends.

      Relatedly, I saw a list of what the Texas legislature has accomplished this session. It largely read like the national Republicans’ wish list: abortion restrictions, voting restrictions, expanded gun carry, financial penalties for cities that reduce funding for police. Not clear if they’re going to finish anything to address last February’s natural gas and electricity collapse. I also wonder if the CEOs who moved their tech companies to metro Austin have second thoughts…Report

      • InMD in reply to Michael Cain says:

        I don’t know why a CEO would care about any of those things other than the situation with the grid.Report

        • Michael Cain in reply to InMD says:

          Ask the CEOs of Coke and Delta. They seem to be rather upset about Georgia’s new voting laws. That may be because neither company can afford to move. Film/TV production seems to be just quietly going elsewhere.

          My own suspicion from my time in giant corporate America is that they actually do worry about “the talent.” That people they want to employ or transfer will start saying, “Move my spouse and kids to Texas? Are you crazy?”Report

          • InMD in reply to Michael Cain says:

            I think that kind of pressure is fleeting, sporadic, and where it has traction is limited to household names.

            Plus carry rights are popular in the South and ‘defund the police’ is extremely unpopular everywhere outside of the most rarified circles. I’m not trying to be overly dismissive but most regular people don’t care. And to the extent they do they aren’t going to pass up opportunities for themselves because they need to produce an official ID to vote or the abortion laws are restrictive. Any analysis needs to account for the fact that most people do not put primacy on politics, not to mention ever shortening attention spans.Report

            • Michael Cain in reply to InMD says:

              I admit that my experience may be biased. Still, the telecom/cable giant where I worked acknowledged, if we’re going to grow the business, we need to grow the Black customer base in Atlanta and the Latino customer base in East LA. And that wasn’t going to happen without Blacks and Hispanics in the right positions in the corporate structure.

              The CEOs were bright enough to know that you didn’t ask Mike how to sell broadband to Black and Hispanic moms. And the Black and Hispanic managers they put in place were very much concerned with how their communities were disadvantaged on a variety of social issues.Report

      • JS in reply to Michael Cain says:

        ” Not clear if they’re going to finish anything to address last February’s natural gas and electricity collapse.”

        Yes indeed. They’re planning to allow the power companies to “pass on” the costs of the NG spikes to consumers.

        You know, make the people who didn’t have power pay out the nose for the power they didn’t get.Report

  2. But he said he was unprepared for the vitriol that followed

    “I didn’t think they’d eat my face”, said the person who targeted the Leopards Eating Faces Party after their year-long face-eating spres.Report