$999 Problems, But a Discount If Covid-19 Vaccination Proof Isn’t One
Leave it to a Florida concert promoter to find an end around to a Ron DeSantis executive order and Florida law banning businesses from requiring Covid-19 vaccination proof while getting publicity and making a profit all at the same time.
This spring, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) issued an executive order forbidding businesses from making their patrons prove that they have been vaccinated against the coronavirus. He also signed into law a bill to give the ban more teeth, threatening violators with fines in the thousands of dollars.
One Florida concert promoter thinks he has a workaround: offer $18 tickets to anyone who is vaccinated and charge $999.99 for everyone else.
“I’m not denying entry to anyone,” said Paul Williams. “I’m just offering a discount.”
The governor’s office says the unorthodox pricing violates Florida’s rules: “Charging higher ticket prices for individuals who do not furnish proof of vaccination unfairly discriminates against people who have enumerated rights under Florida law,” said Christina Pushaw, press secretary for the governor’s office, in an email to The Washington Post.
Williams said he figured his tactics were safe — the executive order carries limited penalties, and the new law does not go into effect until shortly after his small punk rock event planned for June 26 in St. Petersburg. But he said he was unprepared for the vitriol that followed: The anti-vaccination Facebook messages, the sudden spam calls, the misspelled email that warned the band their next show could be their “last” and said: “You’re fans are going to kill you.”
“I didn’t know that caring about my community would make me Hitler,” he said in an interview Saturday, declining to give his age out of concern for his privacy. He said he and the band are flagging the threatening email to law enforcement.
The backlash around a modest event for a couple hundred people underscores the deep divisions over what the United States’ return to normal should look like amid lingering resistance to vaccination. As the rate of shots slow, public health officials have warned that the country may not reach the oft-repeated goal of “herd immunity” against a virus that has killed nearly 600,000 people in the United States and slowed the economy. But some states including Florida have sought to limit businesses’ ability to check vaccinations after a year of coronavirus restrictions becoming politicized.
Asked Saturday whether he regrets the pricing move — which brought national news coverage — Williams said: “We’re still sticking to our guns.”
A few of the “discount” tickets were left as of Saturday afternoon, he said; headliner Teenage Bottlerocket’s website listed the St. Petersburg show as having sold out. None of the “standard” price tickets had sold.
Williams said attendees must present photo ID and a coronavirus vaccination card the day of the concert to enter at the lower price, which was reported by Creative Loafing: Tampa Bay.
There are a few crossing streams here. While in general any incentive to get folks vaccinated is a net good, we probably shouldn’t rule out that this is excellent publicity for a rather modest and low-profile event. After all, they are called “concert promoters” for a reason, folks. But as Michael was talking about in this week’s Thursday Throughput, we still need to hash out and examine a lot of what was, and was not, done during the past 18 months of Covid-19 crisis because the lessons are not only not learned yet, but we also aren’t even sure the right questions to be asking in some cases. The rush of folks who spent the pandemic demanding the government not interfere with businesses and the folks who spent the pandemic demanding government interfere with businesses switching sides as if between sets of a volleyball game ought to be all sorts of fun on the interwebs for a while.
While some of this will be legislated, and no doubt sorted out in court cases, on the practical level — and like it or not — who is and is not vaccinated among the general public among the general public is going to mostly be a matter of the honor system except in instances the government can enforce it. Social media will howl about things like HIPAA and Nurnberg Codes in regard to vaccinations without knowing what either of those things really are or how they work. Most folks will continue along the lines of their Covid-19 priors that by now are well-worn ruts they have no intention of getting out of. And so we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past…until the next trending social media trend lets us have the same argument again, but different this time because reasons, tomorrow. I’ll revert to my previous statement about mask mandates and apply the same principle here. And if you can’t do that, at least be creative about it like Florida concert promoter who managed to get their latest local gig by a band you had never heard of on the national news.
I am less disturbed by people not wanting the vaccine* than I am the vitriol this kind of thing seems to inspire. Especially by so called conservatives who should be philosophically fine with this.
Few people seem to have developed even a modicum of a political philosophy, which, I suppose, is why populist politicians are getting as much traction as they are.
*And I am disturbed by the number of people who are avoiding the vaccine.Report
It all goes back to Trump putting concerns about the economy killing his re-election prospects above everything else with the virus. The irony of his short-sightesness is that had he used masks, vaccination, etc. as a rallying point he’d probably still be in office. Instead he fed his people their idiot bait and we still have the ripple effects.Report
Trump never asked his base t do anything they didn’t already want to do. It’s the secret* of his popularity.
* in the same sense that Boris Johnson’s marriage is secret.Report
See, we are using idiot bait all wrong. You use bait to catch the idiots and remove them from the ecosystem, not encourage them. That’s not bait, that’s chum.Report
I’ve been wondering if this will contribute to an increase in the Big Sort kind of trends.
Relatedly, I saw a list of what the Texas legislature has accomplished this session. It largely read like the national Republicans’ wish list: abortion restrictions, voting restrictions, expanded gun carry, financial penalties for cities that reduce funding for police. Not clear if they’re going to finish anything to address last February’s natural gas and electricity collapse. I also wonder if the CEOs who moved their tech companies to metro Austin have second thoughts…Report
I don’t know why a CEO would care about any of those things other than the situation with the grid.Report
Ask the CEOs of Coke and Delta. They seem to be rather upset about Georgia’s new voting laws. That may be because neither company can afford to move. Film/TV production seems to be just quietly going elsewhere.
My own suspicion from my time in giant corporate America is that they actually do worry about “the talent.” That people they want to employ or transfer will start saying, “Move my spouse and kids to Texas? Are you crazy?”Report
I think that kind of pressure is fleeting, sporadic, and where it has traction is limited to household names.
Plus carry rights are popular in the South and ‘defund the police’ is extremely unpopular everywhere outside of the most rarified circles. I’m not trying to be overly dismissive but most regular people don’t care. And to the extent they do they aren’t going to pass up opportunities for themselves because they need to produce an official ID to vote or the abortion laws are restrictive. Any analysis needs to account for the fact that most people do not put primacy on politics, not to mention ever shortening attention spans.Report
I admit that my experience may be biased. Still, the telecom/cable giant where I worked acknowledged, if we’re going to grow the business, we need to grow the Black customer base in Atlanta and the Latino customer base in East LA. And that wasn’t going to happen without Blacks and Hispanics in the right positions in the corporate structure.
The CEOs were bright enough to know that you didn’t ask Mike how to sell broadband to Black and Hispanic moms. And the Black and Hispanic managers they put in place were very much concerned with how their communities were disadvantaged on a variety of social issues.Report
” Not clear if they’re going to finish anything to address last February’s natural gas and electricity collapse.”
Yes indeed. They’re planning to allow the power companies to “pass on” the costs of the NG spikes to consumers.
You know, make the people who didn’t have power pay out the nose for the power they didn’t get.Report
But he said he was unprepared for the vitriol that followed
“I didn’t think they’d eat my face”, said the person who targeted the Leopards Eating Faces Party after their year-long face-eating spres.Report