Election Day Jour Cinq, Pour Certaines Raisons: Biden Finally Wins and More
UPDATE 11:25 BIDEN FINALLY CALLED THE WINNER
NBC, CBS, CNN all call the race for Biden.
— Damon Linker (@DamonLinker) November 7, 2020
[ED1] Let’s start with soon-to-be President Elect Biden who emerged to give some remarks last night:
Tune in as I address the nation on the current state of the race. https://t.co/w0er4issEk
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) November 7, 2020
[ED2] Meanwhile, at the White House:
While President Donald Trump’s legal strategy to challenge the election results is being shaped at the highest levels by familiar, experienced hands, his legal team on the ground hasn’t seen the involvement of a top-tier team of the caliber George W. Bush had during the 2000 Florida recount.
And as former Vice President Joe Biden’s lead has come into focus in recent days, Trump has been asking why his legal team doesn’t seem more put together, suggesting he doesn’t believe they are up to the task of defending him in the courts and asking for his team to find better lawyers, according to one person who has spoken to him.
The public-facing effort has been headed by Rudy Giuliani and former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, Trump loyalists whose credibility has been diminished among the type of elite legal talent that a presidential campaign might turn to during an election challenge.
On the legal team, Trump’s efforts to contest election results in states such as Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia and Michigan have been guided by lawyers who have been by the President’s side for years, including Jay Sekulow, the conservative lawyer who helped lead Trump’s defense in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election, and is helping to orchestrate some of the legal challenges filed in Pennsylvania.
Also involved is William Consovoy, who has spearheaded Trump’s long-running — and thus far successful — effort to block access to his financial records as part of a criminal investigation by the Manhattan district attorney. “What a campaign needs to do to staff one statewide recount, let alone multiple recounts, is overwhelming,” said Benjamin Ginsberg, a top Republican election lawyer who served as national counsel to Bush’s campaigns.
“Bush v. Gore was one state. We put out a call and hundreds of lawyers, political operatives and many others responded,” Ginsberg said. “Even with that, it taxed the Party to its limits to do just one state. It is at best unproven that the Trump campaign can command the sort of infrastructure they would really need to pull this off.”
[ED3] Under the radar, trouble brewing for the Democratic Party back at the various states…
State house races are extremely important every cycle — they can decide to expand Medicaid, pass restrictions on abortion, enact criminal justice reform, or any array of policy decisions. But every 10 years, their importance is magnified after the census is taken and they are tasked with the process of redistricting legislative and congressional boundaries (which can decide partisan control of state legislatures and the US Congress for the next decade).
This year, banking on a blue wave, Democrats staked out an ambitious map aiming to spend $50 million to win legislative majorities in GOP-held chambers and gain control of key chambers in advance of next year’s redistricting fights. The Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee (DLCC) targeted both chambers in Arizona, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Kansas as well as the Iowa and Michigan Houses and the Minnesota Senate.
In the end, Democrats raised $88 million to Republicans’ $60 million — but they don’t have much to show for it.
Votes in Arizona are still being counted, but if those chambers remain in GOP hands, Democrats will have failed to flip a single state chamber. In fact, the only chambers that will have changed hands are the New Hampshire House and Senate, which flipped to Republican control. This is a surprising defeat for Democrats — particularly as New Hampshire voters overwhelmingly reelected Democrats to the US Congress and voted for former Vice President Joe Biden by a wide margin.
According to the NCSL, this means that out of 98 chambers (not counting Nebraska’s unicameral and facially nonpartisan body), “59 are held by Republicans, 37 by Democrats.” And when it comes to unified control — meaning one party controls both the legislature and the governorship — Republicans have the edge holding 23 states to Democrats’ 15.
Democrats likely weren’t the only ones surprised by this outcome. In its October overview, Cook Political Report wrote: “ominously for Republicans, the GOP holds 14 of the 19 vulnerable chambers on our list. This suggests that the Democrats are well-positioned to net up to a half-dozen new chambers this fall, and more if it’s a genuine blue wave.” Cook pointed to Biden’s “strong” running in key states, expecting this to “boost down-ballot candidates.”
But that didn’t happen.
Legal Moves by the Trump team, all from CBS News:
[ED4] Georgia
Together with the Georgia Republican Party, the Trump campaign filed a lawsuit in the Superior Court of Chatham County, Georgia, alleging the proper chain of custody for absentee ballots was not followed.
According to the suit, a poll-watcher with the Georgia GOP “witnessed absentee ballots that had not been properly processed apparently mixed into a pile of absentee ballots that was already set to be tabulated.” The Trump campaign alleges 53 late absentee ballots were added to the stack of on-time absentee ballots.
The Trump campaign and GOP claim it’s unknown whether the absentee ballots were received by the Chatham County Board of Elections before the polls closed on Election Day or whether they were stored in compliance with state law.
The Republicans asked the court to order the Chatham County Board of Elections to collect and store all absentee ballots received after the Election Day deadline and provide an accounting of those ballots.
Following a hearing Thursday morning, Judge James Bass, Jr., dismissed the challenge, saying “the court finds that there is no evidence that the ballots referenced in the petition were received after 7:00 p.m. on election day, thereby making those ballots invalid.” Bass also wrote in a one-page order there is no evidence either the board of elections or the Chatham County Board of Registrars failed to comply with the law.
Biden now holds the lead in Georgia, overtaking Mr. Trump in votes early Friday morning. The former vice president is ahead 1,560 votes.
[ED5] Pennsylvania
Mr. Trump and his campaign charged forward with several legal battles in Pennsylvania, a state that is crucial for the president to win if he wants a second term in the White House, in addition to the dispute over the mail-in ballot deadline that ended up before the Supreme Court.
First, the Trump campaign and Republican National Committee filed a lawsuit in state court against Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar and the commonwealth’s 67 county boards of elections, claiming Boockvar violated the state election code by extending the deadline for absentee and mail-in voters to provide missing proof of identification.
The deadline for voters to provide such identification under Pennsylvania’s election code is “the sixth day following the election.” In guidance issued to counties regarding mail-in ballots received after 8 p.m. on Election Day and before 5 p.m. Friday — which are being segregated due to the existing legal challenge — Boockvar said voters have until November 12 to provide proof of identification.
The campaign asked the court to prohibit the counties from giving absentee and mail-in voters the chance to provide missing proof of identification after November 8. They also want the court to prohibit counties from counting absentee and mail-in ballots from voters whose proof of identification wasn’t received and verified by November 9.
Mr. Trump also appealed an order from the Court of Common Pleas for Philadelphia County on Election Day over the closer observation of the canvassing of ballots. A poll-watcher for the Trump campaign at the Philadelphia Convention Center reported he was at least 20 feet from a table where ballots were being handled, making it difficult to see the markings on secrecy envelopes and whether they were completed correctly.
On Thursday, the Trump campaign declared victory in the battle, as a judge for the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania issued a one-page order requiring that poll watchers, candidates or candidate representatives be permitted to watch all aspects of the canvassing process within 6 feet. The Philadelphia Board of Elections has appealed to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
The president’s campaign has taken the issue of poll-watchers to the federal courts, as well. On Thursday, his campaign asked the judge to halt counting in Philadelphia while Republican observers are not present. Mr. Trump’s lawyers claimed the Philadelphia County Board of Elections refused representatives and poll-watchers for the GOP and Trump campaign access to observe ballot counting.
Judge Paul Diamond denied the Trump campaign’s request, citing an agreement between the two parties.
Biden has taken the lead in Pennsylvania and is ahead of Mr. Trump by 9,746 votes. It’s likely, however, that the state is still receiving mail-in ballots due to the extended deadline to receive and count them.
[ED6] Michigan
Filed in the Michigan Court of Claims, the lawsuit was brought by the Trump campaign and Eric Ostergren, an election “challenger” who allegedly was excluded from watching the absentee ballot review process. Michigan law allows “challengers” to monitor the absentee ballot process and challenge ballots that may not comply with state voting procedures.
The Trump campaign claims that Michigan is not complying with state law, as its absentee voter counting boards are being conducted without inspectors from each party being present. The also allege the state is violating the state constitution and election law by allowing absentee ballots to be processed and counted without letting challengers observe video of ballot boxes where the ballots are placed.
The campaign and Ostergren asked the court to order Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to halt the counting and processing of absentee ballots until an election inspector from each party is present at each absentee voter counting board, and until video is made available to election challengers.
In response to the lawsuit, Benson told CBSN that the suit does not have merit and the state is confident in the process of counting all votes. Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said “every legally cast ballot will be counted in accordance with the law.”
Following a hearing Thursday afternoon, Judge Cynthia Stephens rejected the Trump campaign’s request for the vote counting to be halted, noting in part that its lawsuit was filed late Wednesday afternoon, at which point vote counting had largely proceeded. The “essence of the count is completed,” she said.
Stephens also said Benson had already issued a directive to ensure compliance with state laws, which included instructions for providing access for poll-watchers.
CBS News projected Biden will win Michigan, where he leads Mr. Trump by 146,896 votes.
[ED7] Nevada
Mr. Trump has routinely made claims of voter fraud despite little evidence such widespread fraud exists. When given the opportunity by judges in prior lawsuits to present proof that certain situations would lead to fraud, his campaign and the GOP have failed to do so.
Still, the Trump campaign and Nevada Republicans announced they plan to sue in federal court to force election officials in the state to stop counting “improper votes.” The lawsuit, filed Thursday on behalf of a Nevada voter and two congressional candidates, claims there have been “irregularities” in Clark County.
The lawsuit alleges there were “lax procedures for authenticating mail ballots and over 3,000 instances of ineligible individuals casting ballots,” that ballots have even been cast on behalf of dead voters, and the public has been kept from observing the processing of mail ballots.”
The lawsuit calls for the court to block elections officials from using its signature-verification software system and allow “meaningful access to the ballot counting process.”
A federal judge denied the Trump administration’s requests following a hearing Friday.
“Public interest is not in favor of disrupting the completion of the processing and counting of the ballots,” Judge Andrew Gordon said, adding that there was “an interest in not disenfranchising” potentially hundreds of vote “against one improper ballot.”
Biden’s lead over Mr. Trump has widened as the state reports more vote totals, to roughly 20,542.
[ED8] The Scaping of the Scapegoats, Part 1
Per Current Vote Count:
GA: Trump -4k. Libertarians won 61k
PA: Trump -27k. Libertarian 77k
WI: Trump -20k. Libertarian 30k
AZ: Trump -29k. Libertarian 47k.Absolutely blood boiling. I hope these voters are happy.
— Scott Ruesterholz (@Read_N_Learn) November 7, 2020
[ED9] The Scaping of the Scapegoats, Part 2
And if they spent it all (yikes) then they should consider using their fundraising juggernaut to get resources to those orgs.
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) November 7, 2020
[ED10] The Scaping of the Scapegoats, Part 3
As the City Clerk of the City of Rochester Hills, this is my response to the inaccurate statement of @GOPChairwoman. https://t.co/TdxyIvEZ2J pic.twitter.com/t5C1VvGR01
— Tina Barton (@TLBsStory) November 7, 2020
[ED11] The Scaping of the Scapegoats, Part 4
The guy who called Arizona for Fox News donated to Obama/Biden in 2008.
Fox News (and the AP) should RESCIND their call of Arizona for Biden.@realDonaldTrump will WIN ARIZONA and be re-elected. https://t.co/ahjp3rkhdp
— Tim Murtaugh (@TimMurtaugh) November 5, 2020
[ED12] The Scaping of the Scapegoats, Part 5
The time to STAND UP for @realDonaldTrump is RIGHT NOW!
Republicans can’t back down.
This loser mindset is how the Democrats win.
President Trump has fought for us, we have to fight for him.
We won’t forget. Trust me. https://t.co/rN83otNxZd
— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) November 6, 2020
[ED13] Since we’ve been co-opting the French this week…
A map of the electoral college that might make things easier for some of us. (Nebraska and Maine are the only states with split electoral colleges.) https://t.co/v7BrvqBYM8
— Barry Purcell (@solo1y) November 7, 2020
ED3: At least as far as Congressional redistricting, some of the trifecta states don’t matter: seven states (five Republican) have only one district; ten states (five Republican) have independent redistricting commissions; Iowa and Utah have odd hybrid systems.Report
At this point, I am perplexed as to why the media and the states are not calling the election. Are they still afraid of the Twitter wrath of Donald and the QANON types?*
Nevada’s remaining votes are overwhelmingly in Clark County which is going to increase Biden’s lead. Arizona has tightened but not in the numbers necessary to get Trump ahead. He originally needed 58 percent of the batches going to him and now he needs 65 percent or so of the votes and it just hasn’t gone that way. Biden’s lead is probably bigger in AZ because he scored an overwhelming majority of the Navajo Nation votes. The lead in Georgia is narrow but a recount is unlikely to change it and the last additions are more likely than not to ad to Biden’s lead. The same is true in PA.
So what gives with the media refusing to call it? Ratings? Fear of Trump? Fear of Qsigns going nuts?
*QANON has not posted since Tuesday allegedly.Report
I think they’re doing the exact right thing. Slow, sober, and deliberate.Report
From a friend on the ground in Arizona, whose judgement I trust, Biden is winning AZ because (a) ongoing blue swing and (b) Trump (and McSally) pissed off a lot of suburban women in Maricopa and Pima Counties.Report
Though I don’t know why the media would be afraid of Trump’s twitter wrath at this point? They are cutting away from his speeches, Anderson Cooper now famously compared him to an obese turtle stuck on his back. A good chunk of GOP leadership is backing away from Trump’s claims of voter fraud quite hard (and are basically ready to stab Trump in the back).Report
From now on we should call it Caroline de Nord!Report
Vox argues that the election is not being called for professional cover your ass reasons. Probably also applies to the media: https://www.vox.com/2020/11/6/21553115/pennsylvania-call-biden-kornacki-provisionalsReport
And it is called! Champers or really good Whiskey tonight? Or both?Report
More coconut rum. President Elect Bisen. Now George can pop on and explain how Trump has Biden right where he wants him.Report
Trumpism cannot fail…Report
Trump wasn’t very good at Trumpism, though. Maybe the next guy will be. Forget Trump. He was a flawed vessel.Report
I really doubt this. Trump has the appeal of a carnival barker. Cotton doesn’t. Hawley doesn’t. Who else was a “big” “successful” “real-estate mogul” “billionaire” Reality TV star?Report
Trump was great at trumpism. Incoherent, bloviateing, semi competent at best and all about his ego. Nobody is going to replicate that. The R’s are not done with the ur thrust of what trump started but it’s going to be different.Report
I think it all depends on the sophistication of the Trumpists. If they fall for another TV personality they’ll be disappointed. This is where the conservative media environment is its own sort of hot house, building up people and ideas too frail to last long in the real world.
On the other hand if they coalesce behind someone with a better sense of how to sort allies from enemies it just may come roaring back far stronger than it ever was under Trump.Report
Don Jr is tan rested and ready.Report
I assume he’s already been popped into a giant EZ bake oven to get the perfect sheen.Report
I’ve heard this argued before.
Don Jr is not particularly charismatic, he’s not particularly smart, and he’s not particularly cunning.
I mean, DJT wasn’t particularly smart either but he was particularly charismatic and he had *AMAZING* instincts.
I don’t see Jr launching.Report
My guess is lots of R officials don’t dig the T’s grifting and loose cannon BS. They would happily push all the trumps on to a ice flow. The trumpkins have a lot to prove before they have any electoral power and even if they want to get a job besides being a trump.Report
Specifically they have to prove that, having lost the Presidency, they still command the loyalty and votes of more voting members of the GOP’s base than the traditional GOP leadership does.Report
I gotta go with Saul and greginak here. Trump was spectacular at revival-style rallies and the non-stop Twitter feed. On policy he delivered tax cuts, regulatory rollback, and a more conservative federal judiciary. About the only thing he didn’t get was doing away with the ACA, but the SCOTUS is hearing Texas v. California this week (and the appeals court ruled the entire program unconstitutional).
What’s your definition of Trumpism that he’s bad at?Report
It was an oblique joke to socialism.
“Socialism has never been tried.”
“What about East Germany?”
“That wasn’t real Socialism.”
Trump? Oh, that wasn’t real Trumpism.Report
The parts that were supposed to be different from bog standard plutocrat fellatio republitarianism? The infrastructure, immigration control, anti-globalization, restore middle class wages, protect safety nets stuff that is the reason he got elected in ’16 in the first place? If the right’s voters had wanted someone who’d blow up the deficits giving tax cuts to the rich while cutting regulations and the safety net they’d have voted for any of the other options. The only difference between Trump and a standard republican, policy wise, was the trade wars and the (laudable but in my opinion only 50% intentional) failure to enmesh the country in any new wars.Report
We got lots of narrative that is already formed and everybody will believe. The R’s did well in some ways so they are celebrating that. What is coming is the back biting, recriminations and in fighting as they jostle for power and either edge away from trump while sucking up to his followers. Who the hell knows what is going to happen. Partly it will depend on how much trump shits on everybody and everything as he stomps off until Jan. A lot of his sleaziest mouthpieces (rudy, newt) are going to be desperate to stay important and know that when trump moves on there will be much less reason for anybody to put them on tv and trump would just as soon shank them as shake hands.Report
I’m betting on collective amnesia.Report
I completely believe many R’s were horrified at trump being all trumpy. Of course they were to cowardly and craven to say it in public. They have a few months starting in Jan to do something. A few of them will granted it will be get themselves more power.Report
I don’t think they were horrified by him per se and they were clearly happy enough to use him where they could (judges, printing money
for the have-mosts via budget busting tax cut). What offended the establishment was the terrible discipline, the inability to stay on message, the lack of commitment to the red brand, as opposed to the Trump brand. Maybe the smarter ones understand him and his path to power as a threat to their own but I think that’s a bit different.Report
Another narrative that won’t get a lot of traction: after four years of Trump the Dems won the Presidency, but didn’t take the Senate, lost seats in the House, lost the Montana Governors race… Four years of Trump yielded no blue wave, no Biden coattails. Expect the House to flip Red in 2022 and GOP to pick up more Sen seats. Dems are in trouble.Report
Have you seen the “are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?” polls?
Gallup said that 56% of people said “yes”. (I’d be one of them, for the record.)
2012 had 45% say “yes”
2004 had 47% say “yes”
1992 had 38(!)% say “yes”
1984 had 44% say “yes”
Here’s the question to contemplate:
“Are you better off now than you were 2 years ago?”
And that’s what happens with the house.Report
The tricky thing for Dems going forward isn’t that conservatives hate the party, it’s that lots (and lots) of Dem voters don’t like the party. Biden realizes this, I think. (Harris does not.) Pelosi and Schumer (and DiFi and Nadler and…) need to be stripped of their leadership positions, the seniority system thrown in the trash can. Let the generational churn begin already.Report
I think this should happen but it’s at best 50/50 as to whether its replaced with something better.Report
I’ve seen people note that they should have paid more attention to that stat leading up to the election. It indicated trump was in a stronger position then the polls let on. That number suggested a closer election and positive trump environment. Which is true.
The PV isn’t actually all that close but nobody cares about that because of ….reasons.
That gallup has been testing the same question for decades is useful. It’s an odd question for these time. Am i better off? Well seeing 200+ people die in a pandemic is a downer but i’m making more money so i’d say no, i’m much worse off because my country is shitty shape. But thats just me.Report
I don’t know how much attention to that stat needs to be paid. 1984 had a surprisingly low number (seriously, if you had asked me what the number was in ’84, I’d have guessed north of 50).
But the Democrats are fixing to do some stuff… re-open the immigration labor release valve, get us back in China’s good trade graces, and argue that people need to learn to code.
Trump is, indeed, gone.
What made him is still there.Report
44% is probably okay. 38% is not.Report
Seems to me the trap for Democrats is believing that Biden beat Trump on the cumulative demerits of the last four years rather than due to the specific problems which Covid created. If not for The Plague Trump easily rolls to a tidy 300+ EV victory. Or so it seems to me.
Also: that Rahm Emmanuel is still allowed to speak publicly for Democrats on political issues is a testament to America’s commitment to first amendment speech rights and rejection of using violence to solve political disputes.Report
Rahm is a truly startling bag of shite.Report
You don’t know how right you are.Report
Obama is gone. What made him is still here.
But really we all see whats on fox and conservo talk radio. The R fever swamps, traditional upstanding R voters, SoCons and business interests were never going away. That isn’t news or notable. All the D coalition is still here just as it was in 16 and will be here is 22 is a shellacking for the D’s.Report
Heck yeah, it is!
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So would a trump win of course.
The coalition that wants better health care and voting rights and serious focus on Covid is still here. It’s almost like there are two large parties/tents with a sizable number of people who support them and neither is going anyplace.Report
I guess we’re going to find out exactly how many president-independent events happen over the next few years.
“That would have happened if Trump was president too!”Report
LOL. What evs.Report
The trouble with the “are you better off” metric is that even people who were objectively NOT better off, and people who WERE better off, still voted the same way they did in 2016.
I don’t think the 2022 midterms are going to be fought on the terrain of pocketbook issues and conventional politics.Report
Maybe it’ll be about Islamic Terrorism again.
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God that would suck. Let Macron go buck wild if he must but keep us out of it. At least the French can manage to fight them in defense of secular liberalism instead of imperialistic hubris.Report
The D’s under performed down ballot. New younger leadership would be good but i dont’ think we are getting that yet unfortunately. In trouble? To soon to say. Gotta lot of work to do: very much so. They need to make some serious changes in leadership.
The senate map is good for the D’s as i remember. We don’t know how much health care will become in issue soon and if it does that may continue to be burning issue through 22.Report
Yeah depends on if the conservatives on the Supreme Court, with Cocaine Mitch protecting their backs, decide to flush their judicial credibility down the toilet and strike down the ACA or not. Personally my money is on them not doing so but ya never know.Report
I get the sense that Roberts has a very strong understanding of just how threatened the institution is right now. Obviously he can be out voted on any holding but my guess is that there are a lot of behind the scenes discussions going on about the importance of discretion for the sake of the court’s standing long term.Report
Yeah I think that line of argument has a lot of cachet with Gorsuch and maybe even Kavanaugh. Barrett: who the fish knows but I suspect she’s gonna be circumspect on non-religion related issues.
And let us not forget how astronomically idiotic the ACA challenge we’re talking about is.Report
My hope, and maybe it’s a naive one, is that one of the other R appointees has taken her aside and explained how sensitive this moment is. Even if team D pulls a bare majority out of the GA runoffs I have to think that expanding the court is off the table for now. I assume Roberts thinks it’s imperative that it dies down as an issue and will want to avoid decisions that bring it back.
McConnell of course has no honor whatsoever but I don’t think he’s a fool. He’s really gotten away with one here but the victory relies on the court staying at 9 justices. If I’m the GOP I take the truly generational win in the judiciary and pick something new for my scorched earth strategy against the Biden administration.Report
I don’t think we’re going to see scorched earth against *BIDEN*, per se.
We’re going to see some pro forma opposition but, for the most part, this is part of the game and Biden knows how to play and everybody’s happy, like it’s 1999.Report
I expect them to overturn the Appeals Court on narrow technical grounds. Either plaintiffs lack standing (no harm) or severability.Report
Dems heading into 22 and 24: hope *is* a strategy.Report
Trump lost. That is imho a good thing. 22 might be bad for the D’s. Mid terms are usually hard on the party that has the prez. I’m not quite gonna start worrying about how bad 22 is going to be. Maybe i’ll be depressed about on T Giving Day just to get an early start. Lord knows we need to start the next election cycle at Now O’Clock. Oh covid is still hear and killing a thousand people a day
How could i forget, we gotta start planning the War on Christmas!!!!! Woot.Report
” 22 might be bad for the D’s. ”
So that would mean that 6 of the last 7 elections will have been bad for Dems (10, 12, 14, 16, not 18, 20 (except for Biden), and 22).
Nothing to see here?Report
Still, being mired in every fishing thing is always terrible is not healthy. I’m certainly not saying the D’s are great or that they wouldn’t benefit from big changes that will come eventually. Sooner would be better. D’s have been stronger at the prez level with O’s two wins so the midterms have been bad along with a failure of D’s to mobilize for down ballot elections. The D’s seem to have learned to focus more about down ballot elections. Doesn’t mean they will always win but they are paying attention to it.
Trump losing is a far better thing then him winning, that is for damn sure. We are far better off today, even with D under performance and a potential bad 22. Heck Harris might lose in 24 then we have to focus on having a strong 26, what is the senate map like for 26? Then we gotta find a candidate for 28. Will it be Mayor Pete’s turn? Will Taylor Swift, The Rock, Chelsea Clinton be the new heir?
We got something good enjoy it and hope for better. We won’t get all the good stuff and D’s failing would not be a surprise. But just having a Biden admin with a D house will be a massive improvement. There is always, always time to be depressed. Really there is infinite time to be down. There is never enough time to enjoy a win or something good.Report
” Heck Harris might lose in 24 ”
If the Dems are smart (??) they’ll have an open primary in ’24 and not – absolutely DO NOT – anoint Harris as the nominee.Report
And nominate…?Report
whoever has the most delegatesReport
But then who is leading the polls for 28 and what does the 30 mid term look like????Report
There will be no better time for a progressive comeback than the 100th anniversary of the New Deal.Report
From Jacobin:
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Their disappointment that Biden won just oozes out of that tweet.Report
Me thinks that Jacobin cares more about being in eternal opposition rather than doing anything useful politically.Report
Here’s another take.
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Progressives and McConnell are both committed to making Biden a one term President.Report
A milestone:
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If Biden somehow gets through all the recounts, Harris would be our second Indian Vice President. The first was Charles Curtis.Report
Also the mayor of San Francisco. What are the odds?Report
Opposition implies some degree of organization and effectiveness that they don’t have.
Jacobin wants to bitch from the sidelines eternally. Opposition is too much compromise and work.Report
As a Libertarian, I am very happy our party stole votes from Trump.Report
Libertarians got robbed. As the AP reported the totals, Pennsylvania saw about 40,000 Jo Jorgensen votes moved from her total to Biden’s total.
At 12:03 the count was
2,158,770 Trump
1,571,693 Biden
89,025 Jorgensen.
At 12:15 the count was
2,286,966 Trump,
1,674,122 Biden,
46,987 Jorgensen
But heck, she wasn’t using those votes anyway, and that’s why we and the Russians have election hacking software.Report
The official cabinet speculation has begun!
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State: Susan Rice. Her meeting notes tie Obama directly to ordering the FBI to illegally spy on the Trump campaign. So she’s got the dirt on Obama and Biden, so they can’t refuse her the job. And she is good at unashamedly and repeatedly lying to the American people, which I guess will be a primary requirement for a Biden Administration.
AG: Doug Jones. He just lost his Senate race by 20 points. Failing upward, I see.
HHS: Don’t let her grass-roots sounding name fool you. She’s from a very prominent and powerful political family that goes back to the 1800’s, and which includes three US representatives, two governors, and a Secretary of the Interior. Ben Lujan is current Chairman of the Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee.
Transport: Eric Garcetti, mayor of LA. Most people thought Biden would drop this crazy LA mayor over all the allegations of gay sexual misconduct that he ignored, but compared to what’s on Hunter Biden’s laptop and Pornhub account, that’s nothing. He’s also taken heat for corruption, misdirecting fire units to protect the homes of politically connected people, having meetings with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, and closing all the city’s Covid testing sites because black people burned LAPD cruisers. If you want America to look like a homeless camp full of drug addicts, Garcetti is the man.
Commerce: Meg Whitman. Are their two Meg Whitman’s, or is this the Republican billionaire who was Mitt Romney’s finance chair, co-chair of John McCain’s campaign, and finance co-chair of NJ govenror Chris Christie’s campaign, who also ran as a Republican trying to unseat California governor Jerry Brown? Well, Biden will sell out to anybody, but I’ll bet Trump outbids her for the cabinet post.
Ernest Moniz: That one actually makes since. He’s already had the position, and was confirmed 97-0.
Interior: Tom Udall. He’s from one of the most powerful political families in the US. If Biden keeps appointing people from these ruling aristocratic families, why don’t we just go back to a monarchy?
Agriculture: Heidi Heitkamp, age 65. Her only public sector job was with synfuels, not farming or growing crops or anything. But her mom was a school cook and her dad was a janitor, so there’s that. Maybe she offsets the aristocrats.
VA: Buttigieg. He can’t even manage to run South Bend Indiana, and knows nothing about medicine. But he is gay, so there’s that. I’m sure that’s just what wounded and aging veterans were hoping for.Report
Should Meg Whitman abandon her post as CEO of Quibi?Report
From what I understand, this isn’t a parody. It’s not someone making jokes about how dumb the Democrats are likely to be.
It’s someone earnestly talking about who is likely to be in the cabinet.Report