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  1. Saul Degraw says:

    Ken Paxton is totally getting a hard on on Clarence Thomas calling out Lawrence for a strike down: https://jezebel.com/texas-ag-supreme-court-should-let-states-ban-same-sex-1849118394Report

    • Philip H in reply to Saul Degraw says:

      given his recent work in transgender rights this is unsurprising.Report

      • Saul Degraw in reply to Philip H says:

        Unsurprising but still depressing. We will now see how serious Alito was when he said Lawrence and Griswold were not on the line.Report

        • Chip Daniels in reply to Saul Degraw says:

          What’s fascinating in a horrifying way is how recently we were all crowing over how complete and unchallenged the victory of gay rights was.

          It really did seem as though even Republicans had made their peace with it.

          So now I’m wondering if that was true, and represents an overreach by the radical Republicans, or if the rank and file Republicans were just keeping their heads down until it was safe to let their freak flag fly.

          And of course, how this plays into their wide eyed insistence that honest injun, they would totally respect blue state abortion rights.Report

          • Saul Degraw in reply to Chip Daniels says:

            I don’t know if they made peace with LBGT rights per se but they seemed to understand it was a also issue. I think they just had a bunch of dumb luck with Trump’s electoral college freak election and subsequent stacking of the courts with Fed Society ideologues that gave them an opportunity that they presumed was closed.Report

            • Philip H in reply to Saul Degraw says:

              I think this is the most logical analysis of an increasingly illogical situation.Report

            • Chip Daniels in reply to Saul Degraw says:

              This corresponds with my life experience.

              That in the 70s and 80s, after the victories of feminism, it was hard to find people who spoke the way modern conservatives like Jesse Kelley or Jack Prosobiec do.

              Remember that James Watt, Reagan’s Secretary of the Interior made a scandal and had to resign when he remarked that one of his commissions was so diverse it had “a Black, a woman, two Jews and a cripple”.

              I thought at the time that the resignation was proof of how evolved and modern the Republicans were.

              But now I’m thinking that the darkest, most reactionary parts were just cowed into submission and were waiting for the moment to defiantly rise up.

              Today Watts statement would get laughter and applause.Report

              • LeeEsq in reply to Chip Daniels says:

                During the Bush II, it was either Lott or Armey that got in trouble for saying good things about Sturm Thormond when he died. These days, this is unimaginable that Republicans would censor one of their members over this.Report

              • Jaybird in reply to LeeEsq says:

                It was Trent Lott at Strom Thurmond’s birthday party.

                Something to the effect of “hey, if you got elected president, maybe we could have avoided all of those problems we have today”. He resigned as Majority Leader in 2002 and resigned from the senate itself in 2007.

                Insert joke about how many problems we could have avoided if we had more leaders like him still around here.Report

    • Burt Likko in reply to Saul Degraw says:


      Are we still doing that?

      I guess not.Report

  2. Jaybird says:

    New York Times Magazine essay on “The Vanishing Moderate Democrat”. It has an option to listen to it instead. A little over an hour.


    • Saul Degraw in reply to Jaybird says:

      It is nice that Gottheimer knows someone to give him a free ad/puff pieceReport

      • Kazzy in reply to Saul Degraw says:

        Gottheimer is my local Rep and he seems generally popular in an area that — as the article notes — isn’t generally or historically Democratic. Now, Jersey Republicans aren’t the same as the national GOP party but people here seem to like him and I’m not even sure I’ve heard who his opponent will be come the fall. I’m sure the race will be somewhat competitive but it isn’t like there is a major groundswell of opposition from locals to the incumbent based on what he has/hasn’t done.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Saul Degraw says:

        You’d think that editorial would have learned after printing that OP-ED from that senator.


    • Saul Degraw in reply to Jaybird says:

      More seriously, I think there is a generational problem here. As Kazzy notes, Gottheimer’s district was Republican from 1933-2017. The first time it went for a Democratic President in modern history was 2020 though 2016 was close to tied between Trump and Hilary. The policies mentioned in this article were popular with boomers and older voters in the 1980s and 90s. They are not popular with most voters under 45 who come from a different background and set of problems. I don’t think the United States (or many other countries) are really dealing with the aging society and people just sticking around in jobs longer.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Saul Degraw says:

        Well, one thing that I have started noticing is that the Boomers are *FINALLY* starting to retire.

        Now, unfortunately, they’re still not mentoring Gen-Xers or Millennials and transferring knowledge before they do so, but they’re finally starting to retire.

        I’m thinking that there’s going to be a lot of reinventing of wheels in the short to medium term, but right around the time the Millennials realize why the Gen-Xers kept saying “Slow down”, things will start improving again.Report

      • Kazzy in reply to Saul Degraw says:

        What is the problem persay? This area — Gottheimer’s district — skews older and wealthier. I’m 38 and one of the younger “adults” in my town. There aren’t many 20-30-year-olds in suburban NJ. You can run a Dem like G here and flip a historically GOP district or you could run an AOC-type Dem and punt it back.Report

  3. Saul Degraw says:

    Everyone is freaking out about a poorly sourced and report and possibly non-existent paste:


    • Jamson in reply to Saul Degraw says:

      Yawn. Yes, much more interesting than the actuaries.
      What, is that a 40% increase in non-COVID19 deaths amongst the 18-60 year old cohort?
      Is that three standard deviations? No, it’s five?

      Believe in the Science, you rubes. There’s a problem that you ain’t hearing about… because of sunk cost fallacies.

      (Yes, I realize this is over 6 months old data. Shame on OG for burying it under propaganda).Report

  4. North says:

    Turkey greenlit the acceptance of Finland and Sweden to NATO. I predicted that they would but I’m a little surprised how cheaply they were bought off. IIRC all of us assumed they’d at least hold out for some greenlit military procurement but they settled for some assurances about the Kurds from Sweden and Finland and left it at that.Report

  5. Jaybird says:

    Vocabulary question. This is important.


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    • Mike Schilling in reply to Jaybird says:

      It’s weird that he was ever on the city council. It’s not ex officio; he ran and was elected. Since the city council presumably sets the police budget and the chief’s salary, it’s a hugh conflict.Report

  7. Chip Daniels says:

    IN 1939, fascists assembled to salute the swastika in New York City.

    Yesterday, in 2022, fascists marched in Boston.


    If you ever wondered what you would do if you lived in that time, you’re doing it right now.Report

    • Brandon Berg in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      I wonder if histrionic Democratic partisans back then tried to convince people that the German American Bund (over 100 times the size of this group, and still a minor footnote in history) was representative of opposition to the New Deal.Report

  8. Chip Daniels says:

    Meanwhile, today is the day we celebrate the freedom of 10 year old girls to be raped and impregnated, then forced by the state to carry the pregnancy to term, at which point she will be left abandoned to pull herself up by her bootstraps because to do otherwise would violate the culture of life.Report

  9. Chip Daniels says:

    It looks like the Right has discovered their next moral panic, Reefer Madness.

    A similar pattern is happening in the UK’s illegal market, with average THC levels in cannabis at roughly 14 per cent, according to a King’s College London study.

    Regular use of quantities above ten per cent are linked to a higher risk of addiction, violent behaviour and a newly recognised condition called cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, or ‘scromiting’.

    ‘It means screaming and violent vomiting,’ says Dr Lev. ‘I call it the audible cannabis condition, because I hear the violent screams down the hall before I see the patient.’


    Expect Chris Rufo, then Fox & Friends to begin parroting this stuff regularly.Report

    • “Scromiting” has to come from South Park.Report

    • Chip Daniels in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      Man, I hate being right all the time:

      Reefer Madness: Tucker Carlson and Friends Blame Weed for Gun Massacres


      On Tuesday night, Tucker Carlson laid blame for the murder of six people at a 4th of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois, on social media, porn, video games, women who are too naggy, and young men being “​​high on government endorsed weed.”

      Carlson was not alone in erroneously attempting to link cannabis use to violent behavior. Fellow Fox host Laura Ingraham claimed on Tuesday that “there is mounting scientific evidence of a connection between the increase in violent behavior among young people and regular sustained cannabis use.”

      The myth that cannabis use leads to violence has long been present in American politics. The 1936 exploitation film Reefer Madness infamously played into racial stereotypes to portray cannabis use as a catalyst to violent crime. The myth was revived in 2019 by Covid conspiracy theorist Alex Berenson, who published a book claiming that the legalization of marijuana would lead to a significant increase in murders, assaults, and mental illness, despite evidence of the opposite being true. Berenson’s central thesis held that “marijuana causes psychosis. Psychosis causes violence. The obvious implication is that marijuana causes violence.” Berenson, who regularly appears on Fox, has also cited “cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome” (known memetically as “scromiting”) as evidence that smoking weed can lead to a paradoxical effect that causes the user to become violent.Report

  10. Chip Daniels says:

    The struggle for police reform continues:

    With all ballots counted, L.A.’s left makes big gains; Bass is mayoral front-runner

    L.A.’s chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America scored an outright victory on the Eastside, where its favored candidate unseated Councilman Gil Cedillo, a 24-year political veteran who served in Sacramento and at City Hall.

    Cedillo lost to community activist Eunisses Hernandez, who will become the council’s first abolitionist — an advocate for dismantling prison systems, jail facilities and law enforcement agencies and funneling the savings into mental healthcare, addiction services, affordable housing and antipoverty programs. During the campaign, she said she would vote against the hiring of police officers, including recruits who would replace those who retire or resign.


    What makes it so interesting is that the “Defund” stigma doesn’t seem to have hurt Eunisses Hernandez at all. Obviously not replicable everywhere, but noteworthy anyway.Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      I hope it works out.

      I wonder how many votes will go her way…Report

      • Chip Daniels in reply to Jaybird says:

        She won outright and will be sworn in at the end of the year.Report

        • Jaybird in reply to Chip Daniels says:

          I don’t mean the votes made by voters that already happened.

          I mean the votes that she will be part of on the city council.

          You know the part of the article that says “During the campaign, she said she would vote against the hiring of police officers, including recruits who would replace those who retire or resign.”?

          Those votes.Report

    • Saul Degraw in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      I like Bass a lot but Hernandez’s views are not as replicable as you are implying beyond very specific districts.It is also a view that fails upon scrutiny. What would Hernandez do about the murderer in Highland Park?Report

  11. Jaybird says:

    It’s the French Laundry, only in Montana.


  12. Jaybird says:

    This is one of those articles that has *INTERESTING* semiotics.

    I mean, it starts with something that sounds like a parody:

    Debra Messing was fed up. The former “Will & Grace” star was among dozens of celebrity Democratic supporters and activists who joined a call with White House aides last Monday to discuss the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.

    But it gets… weird. It gets weird *FAST*:

    Messing said she’d gotten Joe Biden elected and wanted to know why she was being asked to do anything at all, yelling that there didn’t even seem a point to voting. Others wondered why the call was happening.
    That afternoon, participants received a follow-up email with a list of basic talking points and suggestions of Biden speech clips to share on TikTok.

    This reads to me like CNN is yelling at Biden more than Messing.

    And then the article pulls out the long knives:

    The call, three days after the decision eliminating federal abortion rights, encapsulates the overwhelming sense of frustration among Democrats with Biden. It offers a new window into what many in the President’s party describe as a mismanagement permeating the White House.
    Top Democrats complain the President isn’t acting with — or perhaps is even capable of — the urgency the moment demands.
    “Rudderless, aimless and hopeless” is how one member of Congress described the White House.

    Looks like it’s okay to start criticizing Biden instead of suggesting that we run with packing the court and turning Canada into a handful of new states.Report

  13. Saul Degraw says:

    Former Japanese Prime Minister was shot in Nara, gunman has been arrested. Abe’s condition is criticalReport

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