Thursday Throughput: Neil deGrasse Tyson, Science, and Facts vs Truth
[ThTh1] Earlier this week, Neil deGrasse Tyson tweeted out this:
The good thing about Science is that it’s true, whether or not you believe in it.
— Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson) April 11, 2021
I have a great deal of respect for Dr. Tyson. And I understand what he is getting at. But with all due respect, I disagree with the way he has chosen to phrase this. Because, in the immortal words of Indiana Jones, science is the search for fact, not truth. If it’s truth you’re interested in, Dr. Tyree’s Philosophy class is right down the hall.
The problem with phrasing science as “truth” is that…science is often wrong. Scientists are not magicians or seers. We get it wrong, and we get it wrong often. Sometimes because of personal bias. Sometimes because of bad data. But mostly because our understanding of the universe is and probably always will be incomplete. We view the universe through a glass darkly, our understanding limited by human frailty and technological prowess.
Consider the size of the Universe. At first, scientists though it was no larger than our Solar System. And they had the data to prove it — the stars didn’t change position as the Earth revolved around the Sun. But that was just a technological limitation. The change in the stars’ positions as the Earth revolves around the Sun was simply too small for astronomers to detect. It wasn’t until the 19th century that it could be measured.
Then scientists though the Universe was the size of the Milky Way Galaxy. And they had the evidence to prove it — Van Maanen has shown the spiral nebulae could not be distant islands universes like our because they rotated too fast. But his measurement was in error. Then, for a brief time, we thought the universe was infinite. But then Hubble showed that the Universe was expanding.
Now we think that the visible Universe — the part where light has had time to reach us — is 46 billion light years in radius. And the entire Universe may be even bigger. But that’s coming into question as well.
None of our theories about the size of the Universe were “truth”. What they were was factual. They were the best estimates we could make at the time, given our understanding of physics and our ability to observe.
This is how science works. It is not a series of answers; it’s a series of questions. Our understanding of the universe improves. But it does not ever approach what I would call “truth”.
I’ve previously disagreed with Dr. Tyson on the utility of science when I disputed the notion of Rationalia. To quote myself:
The 19th/early 20th century progressive movement claimed to be the embodiment of rational, scientific thought. The scientific methods that had figured out the steam engine and the light bulb were going to be used to shape human society. They were an early version of Rationalia.
And what did they do? The embraced eugenics, which supposedly was supported by the Theory of Evolution. They embraced prohibition on the idea that they could scientifically perfect human society. And these tendrils of supposedly scientific thought snaked throughout the 20th century, manifesting in everything from claims that women were intellectually inferior, that Jews were subhuman or that homosexuality was a mental illness. All of this was supposedly backed by science.
The Soviet Union and its satellite dictatorships around the globe considered Marxism as proven as the Law of Gravity. They considered it so proven, in fact, that disagreeing with it was regarded a sign of mental illness. Lysenkoism also flourished in the Soviet Union, supposedly as the rational scientific alternative to Western pseudo-science.
Now we recognize these ideas as nonsense. But what other nonsensical economic and social ideas are being bruted about today as “scientific” that will one day prove to the result of bias and prejudice?
Lately, it’s been fashionable for people to say, “believe the science”. But science is not a belief; it’s a series of facts and our interpretation of those facts. When science is right, it’s right no matter how much you might want to disbelieve it. And when it’s wrong, it’s wrong, no matter how much you might want to believe it. We collect data, we formulate hypotheses, we test them, we improve them. But it is never perfect.
There’s a quote I fond of from another great science communicator — Carl Sagan — that I like to use in this context: “Science is a way of skeptically interrogating the universe with a fine understanding of human fallibility.” I like every part that quote: we are skeptical, we ask questions, we understand our limitations.
This can make science frustrating. Over the last year, science had jumped about quite a bit on aspects of the Coronavirus, for example. But it’s the best we’ve got. Winston Churchill once said that democracy is the worst form of government … except for all the others. I would steal that phrase to say that science is the worst way of learning about the universe … except for all the others. The beauty of science is not that it necessarily gives you the right answers; it’s that it’s damned good at telling you which are the wrong answers.
So, I get what Tyson is going for: that the universe is the way it is. It does not have to bend to your wishes and beliefs. But I would hesitate to describe science as “truth”. Because sometimes it isn’t.
[ThTh2] One of the issues that has come up during the COVID-19 pandemic has been the effects of shutdowns and social distancing on the populace. Specifically, critics have been predicting a wave of suicides and drug overdoses. We’re now getting the first hard data on the subject. Overdose deaths do indeed appear to be up significantly, although the reasons for this are a bit unclear. It may have more to do with support services shuttering than social isolation. Notably, the drug overdose rate spiked among Black people, which was unexpected. By contrast, while suicidal thoughts appear to be up, actual suicides were down. Our friend Dr. Katie Gordon dives into it here.
[ThTh3] The defense in the Derek Chauvin case is trying to invoke “excited delirium” as the reason for his death. Radley Balko explains that this diagnosis is largely garbage. Nor is it really a defense.
[ThTh4] For years, we heard stories about the so-called “EmDrive”. No, this has nothing to do with our own legal eagle and writer, Ms. Carpenter. The idea is that you could generate spacecraft thrust using electromagnetic waves inside a cavity, in violation of the law of conservation of momentum. Most experts though this was a measurement error. This now appears to be confirmed (H/T: Oscar).
[ThTh5] There’s been a burst of volcanic activity in Iceland, and it is producing some stunning video:
Some video from tonight in Iceland! Authorities extended the hours for people to hike in and stay past sunset so many people got to see the volcano at its most vivid. #Iceland #icelandVolcano #IcelandEruption #volcano #lava
Full video here: https://t.co/JgQ55DRnk1 pic.twitter.com/FZnpVow5s6
— Brian Emfinger (@brianemfinger) April 10, 2021
[ThTh6] Earlier this week, Andrew noted a bowler who made a rare 7-10 split on television. Wired has a great video about why the 7-10 is so hard to hit and why the stats indicating that the “Greek Church” split is converted less often are misleading.
[ThTh7] One thing we’ve mentioned about the mRNA vaccines it that they have potential way beyond COVID-19. Andrew wrote earlier this week about the potential new flu vaccines. Related tech has produced an HIV vaccine that is looking very promising in Phase II trials.
[ThTh8] And here is a great story about the scientist who laid the groundwork for this revolution. About time she got the attention she deserves.
[ThTh9] More science supporting the decriminalization of sex work.
[ThTh10] My editors will just nod as they read this paper.
[ThTh11] For months, it’s been noted that reported COVID-19 deaths trail the actual number of excess deaths. As noted above, suicides are not up. Overdose deaths are, but they don’t account for the difference. One aspect may be a new and scary study showing that many COVID-19 patients that are discharged from the hospital are re-admitted within months and about one in ten die.
[ThTh12] A new study indicates a wooden statue may be as many as 10,000 years old.
[ThTh13] Another new study confirms that dealing with global warming need not come at the cost of a wounded economy.
[ThTh14] I haven’t written in these pages about Alex Berenson, whose been one of the leading voices in the COVID “skeptic” wing. The Atlantic goes for it here, noting, as I have, that the sources Berenson cites frequently contradict his own claims.
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My own experience is that science is all about models, not facts. And science advances because we acknowledge the first part of “All models are wrong, but some are useful.”
“Red sky at morning, sailor take warning,” is a weather forecasting model. Not a particularly good one, but a model and not a fact. Enormously complicated finite element models of the atmosphere and oceans are somewhat better models, but far from perfect. Where I live, come July, the weather forecasters acknowledge that much as they would like to, they can’t predict with any real accuracy whether the North American Monsoon will be a big one, or when it will start.Report
As our models become more complicated, the trick becomes recognizing the domain in which a given model is useful. I have a tool I maintain that is a model of an internal combustion engine (piston/cylinder). It is a fantastic model for estimating the heat transfer from the cylinder to the surrounding engine parts. It is a terrible model for getting details regarding what is happening in the cylinder. We have another model for that. Put the two together, and you can get some very impressive results, but each on their own…Report
We have a lot of models that simply haven’t ever been tested at all. Eugenics, for example, was never tested, and there are pretty good indications it wouldn’t work particularly well on humans outside of a few very obvious diseases.
But…actually, the problem with eugenics wasn’t even that it doesn’t really work on species with such a long breeding cycle and complicated combinations of genetic expression, like humans. It was they literally were _inventing_ what they were trying to use eugenics to solve.
If someone tries to use eugenics to solve color-blindness, that probably would work! I’m not saying we should do it, but, yeah, we could get rid of color-blindness within a generation with eugenics.
Someone tries to use eugenics to solve cancer…not so much. That’s too complicated and hard to figure out.
But what they were doing back then was trying to use eugenics to solve…moral degeneracy (Not a thing that is genetic) and ‘feeblemindedness’ (By which they really just mean ‘prone to having breakdowns’ and/or ‘poorly educated’ and/or ‘foreign’.)
Like, there’s a scientific problem with eugenics on human for real issues (In addition to a moral problem.), but _that’s_ not even why the eugenics they came up with a century ago didn’t work! It’s because they basically were using it as an excuse for racial and class cleansing, and nothing they were talking about ‘selecting for’ was a real objective thing!
And it’s even less science with ‘science said homosexuality was a mental illness’.
What is that even supposed to mean? Science has no concept of ‘mental illnesses’. That’s just a phrase, a classification that implies certain things should be done about it, as opposed to other classifications that don’t imply those things. There’s no science there…and I don’t mean it’s anti-scientific either, I mean, it’s literally not within the realm of science what we think or do about homosexuality.
None of these things are past scientific errors, or even bad scientific models. They are ‘we do not like some people so we are going to assert things about them.
Just because science says that burning witches would kill them doesn’t make science wrong. It is an entirely reasonable model of the world, burning living things pretty much always kills them.
The problem is the idiots who invented the category of witches and started shoving people in it, and then decided the correct thing to do was to kill them.Report
I am not a scientist but watching the periodically insane things courts, regulators, and legislatures do based on ‘science’ has made me very much appreciate the sentiment here. Too often it becomes an appeal to authority fallacy.
NdGT is a good guy but man do I think we miss Carl Sagan as a society. It’s better to think of science as a process rather than a belief system. I think The Demon-Haunted World should he mandatory reading.Report
Agreed!Report
Thirded. Science has become powerful because of the indisputable material things it has accomplished -within its realm-. Because it’s powerful people now just love to shove it out of its realm and try and use its name to advocate for causes beyond its sphere.Report
ThTh11: Good news about suicides! I do worry about people who have been avoiding (or unable to get an appointment with) the doctor because of COVID and allowing serious conditions to progress.Report
ThTh13: There does seem to be a strain of climate activist who really, REALLY wants mitigation to be economically painful. The more we can prove them wrong, the better.Report
ThTh3: Whatever one thinks about excited delirium, Balko’s skepticism misses the point. Excited delirium is mentioned by police on the body cam video. One of the prosecutor’s expert witnesses explained what it was on cross-examination in a way that Balko would not agree with. That testimony was a week before Balko’s column, so the most charitable assessment is that Balko had a lot of prepared material on issues surrounding the clinical diagnosis, but he is not paying attention to the trial.Report
ThTh1 and ThTh14: scientists can be wrong. Non-scientists are, as the saying goes, not even wrong.Report
“And we determine who is and who is not a scientist by… oh, we’ve run out of time.”Report
Do you really have a problem most of the time? That might explain a lot.Report
As a scientist, I can confidently say that you’re looking at an explanation that is not even wrong.Report
[ThTh1] In the diagram above, the angle between the two outer lines at S is called the parallax. The larger the parallax, the more the star will appear to move. They’re all very small, of course, which is why the motion wasn’t detected until the 19th century. Even the closest star has a parallax of about one second of arc, that is, one sixtieth of one sixtieth of a degree.
And there’s a special term for that distance, which is a bit over three light years: If the parallax is one second, it’s a parsec.Report
Which brings up this question:
Fine, you’ve rationalized that the Kessel run is measured in distance rather than time. Now explain why a galaxy far, far away uses units based on Earth’s orbit.Report
Because the Rule of Cool.
Parsec sounds cool!Report
I’m still stuck on why half the people in that galaxy speak with an Oxbridge accent.
The closest I can come is that the light of the sun is, technically, still shining on that corner of the British Empire where Victoria still rules.Report
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If John Campbell were still alive, he would already have written 12 editorials about how important this effect was.Report
[ThTh7]: One of the few silver linings of COVID-19 is that mRNA vaccines are getting a heck of a test, with a lot of real world data. Priceless real world data that can be used to sort out everything from expected efficacy of new mRNA vaccines, to how often they’d need to be administered, where to start looking on dosages, who should (or shouldn’t) be getting them, the sort of side effects that are to be expected — and how to manage them….
All data we have on classic “live virus” and “Dead virus” vaccines as a framework, that we can now compare hundreds of millions of mRNA vaccine dosages to. It’s a broad base of incredibly useful data that’ll inform further research and creation of mRNA vaccines.
Which will come in darn handy, especially considering some of the mRNA research is towards vaccines that could be called “boutique” (a very small number, as these things go, of people needing such vaccinations) or even bespoke (individualized cancer vaccinations).
Personally my high hopes for them is a vaccine for retroviruses — or at least a decent treatment, aimed at suppressing flare-ups due to quick immune response. Imagine an HIV or herpes treatment that was a twice a year shot, rather than daily pills?Report
The scariest thing about Covid is, if it had happened just ten years earlier, we wouldn’t even be close to a vaccine a year later. (And we’d be a lot worse off in internet stuff. )
Just one decade earlier, this stuff is a whole lot worse…and yes, that’s _even with Bush_ (Who would be competent enough to stay out of the way and repeat what the doctors said) instead of Trump. We probably would have been better off infection-wise at this point, but we’d have to endure another year or so of it.
It’s like humanity somehow managed to barely outrun the fireball.Report
I have a feeling we wouldn’t have shut down for Covid had it occurred 10 years earlier. What would have been the point?Report