Poway Prohibits Pedagogical Proselytization
A calculus teacher named Bradley Johnson at a public high school in Poway, California decorated his classroom with posters described as:
…two large banners, each about seven-feet wide and two feet tall, hung on the wall. … One had red, white, and blue stripes and stated in large block type: “IN GOD WE TRUST”; “ONE NATION UNDER GOD”; “GOD BLESS AMERICA”; and, “GOD SHED HIS GRACE ON THEE.” The other stated: “All men are created equal, they are endowed by their CREATOR.” On that banner, the word “creator” occupied its own line, and each letter of “creator” was capitalized and nearly double the size of the other text.
Photographs of the posters as they were displayed in Johnson’s classroom are available for review on the last two pages of the Ninth Circuit’s decision.
Johnson had displayed posters like this in his classrooms since 1982 without complaint prior to the events leading to this lawsuit. But at some point he and a colleague got into a dispute about an unrelated issue, and the principal got involved and was asked to evaluate the religious posters. Although there were some more formal procedures involved in making it happen, she eventually told him to take the posters down. Johnson claimed a right of free speech to display the posters but the principal said, “No, these posters are different because of their religious content,” and demanded that Johnson take them down, which he did, but he sued his employer for making him do it and sought the right to put them back up.
The case presents a question of whether the teacher’s free speech rights trump the school’s obligation to not Establish a religion. Since I’m unpacking and opining on not one but two extensive opinions, I’ll get to the punchline early for those inclined to offer their opinions based upon reasoning like “TL/DR”: the district (trial) court sided with Johnson. But on appeal, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the principal. The posters must stay down. No petition for rehearing before an en banc panel of the Ninth Circuit nor has a petition for certiorari yet been filed with the Supreme Court. The facts and law supporting each side are offered below the fold.
1. The Facts
Functionally uncontested by either party, and acknowledged to various degrees by both courts, are these salient facts.
- Johnson had purchased the posters with his own money. (Presumably, he did not personally create them if he purchased them.)
- Johnson was well-known to be the faculty sponsor of the school’s Christian Club.
- Johnson had displayed the signs in his classrooms for over 20 years with no complaints from anyone, nor any apparent disruption in his classes.
- Johnson was paid by the school district to teach calculus, not civics, and all parties agreed that the posters did not have any particular relevance to calculus or math in general.
- Poway School District permitted a diversity of non-cirriculuar displays in other classrooms, including “Tibetan prayer flags with writings in Sanskrit and images of Buddha”; “… a large poster of John Lennon and the lyrics to the song ‘Imagine'” (the lower court’s opinion quoted the lyrics and highlighted the lines that seemed to be critical of religion); posters of Gandhi including some with quotes from him, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Dalai Lama; a Libertarian Party poster and a Greenpeace poster; posters depicting musicians and athletes; a Navy poster depicting an aircraft carrier; and posters and bumper stickers with a variety of political and social slogans, at some of which touched on or referred to matters of religion.
- The Assistant Superintendent who investigated the banners testified that no individual banner was a problem; rather, it was all of the banners read together and taken as a whole.
- The principal and the assistant superintendent both believed the quotes on Johnson’s posters had been taken out of context to convey a meaning unintended by their original authors, and Johnson and the principal could not agree on the appropriate way to address that issue, although both offered ideas.
- The principal’s order that the banners be removed justified the order (in part) on the grounds that the banners conveyed a Judeo-Christian viewpoint.
- The principal claimed that their conversation regarding the appropriateness of the posters included this exchange: “If an Islamic student walks into your classroom and sees all of these phrases…. they may feel like, ‘Wow, I’m not welcome,’ or ‘I’m not gonna fit in this classroom.’ And they may feel bad.” “Dawn, sometimes that’s necessary.” Whether Johnson disputed that testimony is unclear from the published opinions.
The weight to be assigned to these facts may vary from analyst to analyst. Another interesting fact noted by the Ninth Circuit but not the District Court seems to me relevant as to the issue of the intent of the parties.
The school district’s administrators made a finding that Johnson’s posters conveyed a sectarian religious message, and that they had the intent and purpose of advancing a particular religious viewpoint, which they felt they had a duty to prevent under the Establishment Clause (my phrasing, not theirs).
Johnson initially testified in his deposition that his intent was only to be patriotic, but later stated:
My purpose was to celebrate our national heritage of — and the national motto saying the Pledge of Allegiance. I know that there’s — you know, is it God or is it — or is there no God. If that’s the choice, then this is espousing God as opposed to no God, I’ll say that, but not any particular God. … I’m not intending to highlight or promote any of that kind of religious background because I don’t know what it was. I’m trying to highlight the religious heritage and nature of our nation, that we have that as a foundation.
2. Legal Contentions
Johnson claimed that his Federal constitutional rights were violated in three ways. First, he claimed his free speech rights were violated. Second, he said the District’s actions violated the Establishment Clause. Finally, he said that he was denied the equal protection of the laws. Notably, Johnson did not claim that his rights under the Free Exercise Clause were implicated by having to take down the posters. Johnson also brought cognate claims of similar rights violations under the California Constitution, which is for all intents and purposes co-extensive with the Federal rights.
The District Court also included a passage (page 8, line 20 – page 10, line 1) aimed at the question of to what extent the Constitution permits a public official to do and say in recognition of religion. This issue came up in another thread recently and the particulars of that discussion were such that I didn’t get a satisfactory take out of the idea. It’s meaty enough that it deserves its own post for discussion. This post is going to be in depth enough as it is. Suffice to say that I hope everyone agrees on at least the extremes — the government cannot tell Johnson he needs to suspend his religious beliefs when he goes to work, nor can the government sanction Johnson evangelizing to his students when he should be teaching them calculus. Hanging the posters is clearly in between at least those extremes. Where on that spectrum it falls, you will have to decide for yourself.
3. Free Speech
The District Court and the Ninth Circuit disagreed on the extent to which a teacher enjoys free speech rights in class; this was the foundation of the divergent results. We can seriously get into the intellectual weeds here looking at the legal foundations of these various doctrines. Some of that is unavoidable here.
A. Forum-Based Analsysis
The District Court found that teachers enjoy functionally unlimited free speech rights in a setting like a classroom at a school where teachers are allowed to hang posters as described here. The school, to this judge’s mind, had become at least a limited public forum and Johnson enjoyed very close to the same rights to speak on issues in the classroom as he would have on the street. Very important to the District Court’s analysis was the issue of what kind of a forum had been created in the school — an open, public forum; a closed, private forum; or something in between.
The District Court came to the conclusion that a limited public forum had been created, and the teacher enjoyed functionally the same rights to comment on pretty much anything in the classroom that he would enjoy were he not a public employee and out in a public park. This does not seem like the right analysis of a limited public forum and I do not think that can possibly be the right result. A school can and must require that a teacher say certain things as part of his job — it can require that the teacher dispense instruction about particular subjects (in Johnson’s case, that would be calculus). It can and probably must require that the teacher refrain from other kinds of speech that would be protected in another setting — producing pornography, for instance. If Johnson must talk about calculus and cannot talk about pornography, then we’re not really dealing with a public forum or even a quasi-public forum, at least not as far as he’s concerned.
Ultimately, and after a lot of time in the weeds, the District Court reaches the real conundrum in cases involving speech with religious content:
In Faith Center, the Ninth Circuit reviewed these cases and drew a line between speech from a religious perspective (which was constitutionally protected in each of the limited public forums) and pure religious worship (which exceeded the boundaries of the forums). Faith Center, 480 F.3d at 913.
And really, that’s where we come back to a point that (it seems to me) broad consensus exists and therefore an irreconcilable problem also exists: it is inherently difficult to tell when speech from a religious perspective ends and worship or evangelism has begun. To even attempt such an analysis requires determining the intent of the speaker — a task that courts have experience in doing and is not devoid of information, but which is ultimately inexact — and it requires determining the reaction of the reasonable listener — again an inexact process, this time one which most often depends on the oft-distrusted “reasonability” of judges or upon the notoriously unreliable ability of twelve citizens selected at random to reach a consensus in a fashion that inspires confidence in the intellectual processes used in the jury room. To even consider this analysis, we must look at the content, the form, and the context of the speech in question — and of those factors, content is king.
B. Employment-Based Analysis
Of note is that the District Court rejected, and the Ninth Circuit relied upon, the case of Pickering v. Board of Education (1968) 391 U.S. 563. In Pickering, a high school teacher wrote a letter to the editor of his local newspaper critical of how the administrators (to whom the teacher reported) had handled fundraising to build new schools; he was fired for breaching his duty of loyalty to his employer. The Pickering Court held that unless the defendants could prove that the teacher had intentionally or recklessly made false statements in that letter, he had a First Amendment right to comment about public issues. From Pickering, courts have developed this analysis to determine whether an employee who is treated negatively by her governmental employer has had her free speech rights violated:
(1) whether the plaintiff spoke on a matter of public concern; (2) whether the plaintiff spoke as a private citizen or public employee; (3) whether the plaintiff ’s protected speech was a substantial or motivating factor in the adverse employment action; (4) whether the state had an adequate justification for treating the employee differently from other members of the general public; and (5) whether the state would have taken the adverse employment action even absent the protected speech.
The test seems mostly right to me. But one problem I have with it is that the fourth prong of the test seems a little bit abstract. What is an “adequate justification” for disparate treatment? In Constitutional law, we know four levels of justification for any governmental action. First, there is a “compelling interest,” like preservation of national security. Second, and less important, is an “important interest.” Third, there is a “legitimate interest.” Finally, there is “arbitrary and capricious” activity. What is the dividing line between these levels of justification? I’m afraid I can’t define that for you all that much more than to point you at the words as though they were self-defining, which I know they aren’t. Things just plain get squishy when you get down here, folks; I’m not sure how they can really be made more precise than this but I wish they could be.
So the fourth prong in the Ninth Circuit’s analysis uses the phrase “adequate” without even telling us which of these meets the definition of “adequate.” All I can tell you is that “adequate” seems like a relatively weak word to me, weaker than other available words like “substantial” or “significant.” So we’re probably looking at something like that third level of justification, “legitimate,” which means, basically, non-arbitrary. And that may be appropriate:
When a citizen enters government service, the citizen by necessity must accept certain limitations on his or her freedom,” or else “there would be little chance for the efficient provision of public services.” Ceballos v. Garcetti (2006) 547 U.S. 410, 418 (citing Connick v. Myers (1983) 461 U.S. 138, 143, “…government offices could not function if every employment decision became a constitutional matter.”)
So while this overall seems like a worthwhile test, I also have to question the predicate of the test — was Johnson subject to an adverse employment action by the school district? They asked him to take some posters down, and (reluctantly) he did. Could we consider this an adverse employment action because the school district did not make similar orders to Johnson’s colleagues who got to keep their sort-of-religious-sort-of-political posters up? Perhaps — but at this point we’re getting into territory to be covered below, the issue of equal protection.
The Ninth Circuit found that teachers are public employees and they are paid, in essence, to speak and therefore are subject to greater amounts of control when they are speaking, at least while “on duty,” than private citizens. At the end of the day, this seems pretty much right to me. When you take a job working for the government, you have to accept the restrictions and duties that go with it. That can and in this case does include a degree of submergence of your own viewpoints. Johnson’s speech was not that of a private citizen but that a of a public employee, and there the analysis ends — a public employee does not have First Amenmdent free speech rights, at least not while on duty.
As to the question of permitting the other apparently religious content to remain up, the Ninth Circuit pointed to a prior case, Downs v. Los Angeles Unified School District (9th Cir. 2000) 228 F.3d 1003. In Downs, faculty (not students) at a school within LAUSD were permitted to post pretty much whatever they wanted on a bulletin board in the school’s hallway; the principal retained general oversight over the content of the board. A number of things went up including a flyer for Gay and Lesbian Awareness Month. Downs didn’t like that, so he put up his own flyers explaining why he thought homosexuality was morally bad. The principal ordered Downs to remove his material, and his material only, from the board. This sounds not at all unlike Johnson having to take down his posters while other teachers did not have to take down theirs. Providing the board, in other words, did not create a limited public forum, any more than did providing the opportunity to put up posters. If these are fora for public speech, they are private and not public fora.
C. Forum And Employment Considered Together
I’m not sure I agree with that at all. As it stands, it appears that the school If a forum for speech has been created at all, then a forum analysis must take place and, at minimum, viewpoint-based censorship cannot be done. The government must treat its employees alike; if it allows them to speak at all, it must do so on an evenhanded, viewpoint-neutral basis. That means giving Johnson a reasonable means of expression for his “Christian Patriot” point of view just as much as it means giving other teachers their “pacifistic/pro-John Lennon” or “pro-Tibetian” points of view.
At the same time, the school district has to have the ability to control what is said and expressed within its classrooms. If the school district relinquishes control, it seems nearly derelict in its duties. In Johnson’s case, the classroom exists as a place where students are to be taught calculus, not as a place where they are to be exposed to a particualr viewpoint in the culture wars. So some kind of regulation of the forum is necessary.
Were I the principal, I might have created a rule something like this:
One wall in each classroom, which shall be neither the wall which includes the entry or exit point, nor the wall upon which the blackboard is located, may be designated as the “open wall,” upon which the teacher may place any non-cirricular material that does not constitute a significant distraction from pedagogical activities. Other walls may only be decorated, if at all, with educational material relevant to to subject matter of the assigned tasks, such as maps, charts, portraits of significant indivduals in the field of study, and other related materials, as well as bulletins, flyers, and other materials related to school activities.
That rule would not eliminate all problems, nor the potential for all arbitrary decision-making. But it does provide some guidance to the teachers about what they can and cannot do, and where they can do it. Most important, it makes clear to students that this area is where the teacher expresses herself, not where the school is trying to engage in educational activity. That would, in my mind at least, circumvent the Establishment problem, allow personal expression of functionally any viewpoint, and still permitting the school a substantial hand in making sure that the students were not exposed to something either inappropriate or conveying a message that their academic performance related in any way to their adherence to any particular point of view (whether that be pro-Christian or anti-Christian in this case).
But even then I’m not sure I escape the tension — either there can be posters at all, or there cannot; if there can be, then either the posters must be curricular, or they can be non-curricular, in which case the Johnson posters pretty much have to be allowed.
4. Establishment
The District Court went well out of its way to argue that the banners created no danger whatsoever that any reasonable observer would conclude that the school was endorsing a particular religious message through the banners. In my opinion, the Court went too far out of its way to do so, losing credibility in the process.
If I had been a student in Mr. Johnson’s class, I would have got the message loud and clear that Mr. Johnson is a Christian and he thinks you have to be a Christian in order to be a patriot and a real American, and that I’d better at least go along with that silently if I know what’s good for me. I have no idea what kind of personality Johnson projects to his students in class, but the posters convey a powerful emotional emphasis on submission to authority. YMMV, but even if your take on the posters is different than mine, what I’d like you to critique is whether a reasonable high school student, likely one of indeterminate religious belief, could feel as I do about them.
But that’s a sidetrack considering the use of the Establishment clause in defense of the school’s action. What’s more interesting is that Johnson brought an affirmative Establishment Clause claim against the school. The essence of the claim is that while the school ordered Johnson to take his Christian posters down while making explicit reference to the sectarian religious content on his posters, it did not similarly order other teachers to take down posters with portraits and quotes from Buddhists and Hindus, and Tibetan prayer flags. Thus, Johnson claimed, the school Established Buddhism and Hinduism as religions favored over Christianity. The District Court went further and indicated that the lyrics of the John Lennon song “Imagine” were anti-religious and thus hinted that by permitting that poster to remain up, the school Established secularism or anti-theism as an endorsed religious viewpoint as well.
The District Court did not engage in a deep analysis here, as it did not need to, given its finding that Johnson had a free speech right to display these posters. The Ninth Circuit, concluding that no forum can be created in the governmental workplace at all, had to deal with the Establishment issue more directly.
Relying as it does on the relatively recent “government speech” doctrine (a favorite of Justice Alito, by the way) the Ninth Circuit analysis reached the point that in order for the government to engage in speech, and preserve its standing under the Establishment Clause, it must be strictly netural with regards to religion:
Rather, what the Clause requires is “governmental neutrality”—“neutrality between religion and religion, and between religion and nonreligion.” McCreary Cnty., Ky. v. ACLU of Ky., 545 U.S. 844, 860 (2005) (quoting Epperson v. Arkansas , 393 U.S. 97, 104 (1968[/efn_note] (other citations omitted). It requires that the government “not be overtly hostile to religion but also that it may not place its prestige, coercive authority, or resources behind a single religious faith or behind religious belief in general, compelling nonadherents to support the practices or proselytizing of favored religious organizations and conveying the message that those who do not contribute gladly are less than full members of the community.” Tex. Monthly, Inc. v. Bullock, 489 U.S. 1, 9 (1989) (plurality opinion); see Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602, 612 (1971). In essence, the Clause serves not as a closed door, but as a judicious chaperone; it permits a certain degree of impartial and friendly dialogue, but is swift to step in once that dialogue turns stigmatic or coercive. Tex. Monthly, 489 U.S. at 9 … .
Which is all well and good, and mentions in one passage all three Establishment Clause tests in play — Lemon v. Kurtzman, the endorsement test, and the coercion test. But the Court went on to apply only the Lemon test, finding that the removal of the psoters passed all three prongs of that test (secular purpose, neither advancing nor inhibiting religion, and no excessive entanglement with religion). Avoiding a potential Establishment Clause violation is a valid secular purpose for a governmental activity. The question that Johnson’s supporters will have is “how did this action not inhibit religion?” To which the Ninth Circuit responds, if Johnson’s purpose was not to advance religion (according to his own testimony) then removal of the posters can hardly be said to inhibit it.
5. Equal Protection
There was very little analysis of the Equal Protection issue by the District Court. Having concluded that Johnson was ordered to take down his posters because of official disapproval of their Christian content while other religiously explicit content could remain up, it was obvious without need of deep discussion that Johnson had been denied the equal protection of the laws.
The Ninth Circuit held that since the speech in question was the government’s, no individual has a personal interest in the speech and therefore could have no interest in controlling, dissenting from, or speaking about that speech. Thus, no equal protection interest would apply, either. But as to the other religous material, the Ninth notes that the “mere mention” of religious content does not cause a problem, either under the Establishment clause or under the Equal Protection clause, because Johnson’s speech was not on the same ground as the other speech. The reason for the inequality in footing was the message of endorsement that Johnsons’ posters conveyed. Because Johnson’s speech conveyed an attitude that the government (the school, Johnson in his role as a teacher, or some other level) endorsed the “Christian Patriot” message of the posters, the speech was differently situated than the Tibetan prayer flags and the John Lennon lyrics. Specifically as to the Tibetan prayer flags, the teacher in question testified that she was ignorant of the precise religious content of the flags and displayed them to work in tandem with lessons she had prepared about exploration of Mount Everest. Thus, they had a valid secular purpose, and there was no evidence that anyone was motivated to so much as investigate, much less adopt, the Buddhist religion because of seeing them.
6. Conclusion
The trial court blew the call. A teacher is not in a free speech forum; the teacher is working on the public dime and the public therefore gets to control his speech to a significant degree. Not completely. And it has to do things evenhandedly, fairly, and for a good reason.
But the Ninth Circuit blew the call, too. Johnson is allowed to express his personal beliefs and the school created an environment in which there was non-curricular speech going on with the posters. There was something of an open forum created by that practice.
Where I think Johnson crossed the line was not his expression of a personal religious faith to his students, it was in the vehemence with which he portrayed it; it is easy to get the impression that Christians and in particular those who agreed with the blend of Christian faith and the particular interpretation of history colored by that faith that Johnson espoused would be somehow favored. Johnson endorsed not just Christianity but a particular flavor of it. This sort of thing has been called “bullying” in other contexts and while I don’t think that word is exactly right, it’s close enough for our purposes. I would certainly have hesitated to disputing with Johnson about the content of his posters had I been one of his students.
For me, the amount of time that Johnson had been doing this without complaint is irrelevant. But the fact that this was a math class is relevant. There is nothing even remotely math-related in the posters. Had Johnson been teaching civics or history, where discussion of the subject matter of the posters would have been more on point, I don’t have a problem with Johnson expressing his opinion on historical issues and the posters seem more tolerable.
Now, having seen that Johnson had crossed the line, the school was within its authority to act. But in acting, the school should have acted evenhandedly. If Johnson has to take down his religious/political/historical posters, then so do his colleagues. And both courts stretched credulity to reach the conclusions they did.
What’s the right answer? I think Johnson should have been required to tone the posters down in some way to eliminate the impression of an endorsement of religion, but allowed to keep up posters touching on the subject matter that interested him and which reasonably expressed his viewpoint. The ironic thing is, it seems that he and his principal were ontheir way to a productive discussion about reaching that exact solution when the lawsuit got filed.
Had Johnson been teaching civics or history, where discussion of the subject matter of the posters would have been more on point
Since calculus was invented by Isaac Newton, religious nutjobbery is completely on point.Report
Leibniz.Report
MATH FLAMEWAR!Report
As a wise man once said, “The battles in academia are so fierce because the stakes are so low”. This whole brouhaha started because of an academic dust up.
Johnson: “i is an imaginary number but it is real”
Other: “No it’s not, you’re an idiot!”
Johnson: “Yes it is, Alfred North Whitehead said so”
Other: “I’m taking down your posters!”
P.S. Whitehead really didn’t say it.
P.S.S Johnson should displaythese booksReport
P.P.P.S: Academia means colleges and universities, not high schools.Report
P.P.P.P.S. Don’t tell the high school teachers that! 😉
P.P.P.P.P.S. I’m too hungover today to make any meaningful commentary – apologies in advance for pretending to be able to channel Jaybird’s cat.Report
but only from a history of science perspective.Report
Burt, next time it might be helpful if you included some details.
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Another great and fascinating analysis. Seeing this and both the Plan0 and Bay Minette cases studies as a whole, I can’t help but notice that with each new case you talk about the lines are getting progressively fuzzier. I’m wondering if this was by design on your part, or just they way the it turned out?
I have a harder time than most detaching myself from the human elements of cases like this, so as I read the entire thing this first bit was in the forefront of my mind:
“But at some point he and a colleague got into a dispute about an unrelated issue”
I know that the important issues here are rights and precedents, but it’s hard for me to shake the the notion that all of this hubbub was the result of some petty squabble over parking spaces some other such thing.
That being said, I agree with you that school had the rich to tell him to remove the signs. (Which, I gotta say, are probably the result of the math teachers love of both God and his students – but which could easily, easily be misconstrued to mean ‘Fish You, Secularists!’)Report
Ya know, some people love to quote G-d all the live long day, and I never ever get the feeling that they’d care if you didn’t believe in him. Or if you were gay, or pro-abortion, or nothing. They’d love you no matter what, and be just as good to you as they could possibly be.
It’s the exclusive people what get on my nerves.
Course, I can’t see the sort of people what put a loving G-d at the forefront of their faith forcing him on other people.Report
How diverse! Let me know how that works out for you.Report
Tod, of the three cases I tackled, this was by far the hardest because not only were the legal analyses at both levels so deep, and not only was I effectively taking on two opinions at once, but both results were subject to critique. Also I like my posts to stand alone, so that means doing some backgrounding on territory I may have covered even very recently (e.g., the Lemon test).
Finding the nuance between the two opinons to discern the right result was, and remains, very difficult. My defense mechanism for complexity is loquaciousness and there are no page or word limits here as there are in a legal brief. I think of the three cases I’ve done recently, this one is by far the most challenging for all sides.Report
You got this one right, Burt. The teacher has no “free speech” rights: the school decides what can & can’t be said.
Certainly it was unfair giving free rein to other favored viewpoints [Buddhism, John Lennon’s “Imagine”] but that’s for powers higher than the principal to fix.
However, via Lemon, an idea grew in the 20th century that simple theism is the same as “religion,” that the existence of God is a matter of opinion, and to say God exists is “establishing” religion. This of course, is a modern innovation and not demanded by the Constitution. The ratifiers of neither the First or Fourteenth ever conceived they were amending the Constitution to outlaw God, i.e., theism.
“We are a religious people and our institutions presuppose a Supreme Being,” wrote William O. Douglas in Clausen, as recently as 1952.
Our institutions presuppose God, except we can’t acknowledge it, as Bradley Johnson did in his classroom. Absurdity are us.Report
Now I know all the work I put into this post was worth it — TVD is a challenging audience to please. Much appreciated, sir.Report
“Our institutions presuppose God”
I would find it interesting if you would defend that statement a bit. I don’t see anything presupposing God in our institutions, except at the level of rhetorical flourish (“endowed by their creator” etc). I suppose you could reach to say that laws make moral judgements, and all morality is rooted in religion, but that’s a religious statement in and of itself. The constitution, which lays out the legal institutions of the country, is conspicuously free of references to God, even as window dressing.Report
Pop quiz time how many times do the word creator or god appear in the constitution?Report
How about “Lord”?Report
“Lord,” once, as in “in the Year of our Lord.” Doesn’t prove very much one way or the other, IMO.Report
These are Justice Douglas’ words, not necessarily TVD’s, although I do interpret his reference to them above as an endorsement by TVD of their [putative] truth.Report
@TimM: “Endowed by their creator” is not a rhetorical flourish. It established “the right to have rights.”
The American system—its political philosophy, even admittedly a political theology—is that man has certain pre-political and unalienable rights that precede governments.
The objection to even writing a “Bill of Rights” was that by enumerating some of them, it could be taken that they were limited by those enumerations, just as the federal [central] gov’t is limited by the Constitution.
This is why Roger Sherman and others insisted on the Ninth Amendment, that
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The problem with “social contract” theory, as practiced in the UK and most other systems/institutions, is that rights are purely political, whatever you can wrest from the crown or parliament, Leviathan as it were.
The great American Founder James Wilson, our first great legal theorist, pointed this out in contradistinction to Blackstone and Burke:
“Must our rights be removed from the stable foundation of nature, and placed on the precarious and fluctuating basis of human institution? Such seems to be the sentiment of Mr. Burke: and such too seems to have been the sentiment of a much higher authority than Mr. Burke — Sir William Blackstone.” —Wilson, Of the Natural Rights of Individuals
Now this seems like the tall weeds of arcane theory to the modern product of our academic establishment, who is taught that the Constitution is all there is to our system, a “godless” social contract.
But the argument remains that neither the First or Fourteenth Amendments ever declared God-given rights— hence God Hisself—as an area of “neutrality” or a matter of subjective opinion. For the ratifiers of the First and Fourteenth held God to be a reality.
[Yes, per freedom of conscience, people are free to demur on an individual level on whatever they want: people are free to believe in creationism even though it’s pap. But demurral on the individual level does not place a requirement on society or even government. To accommodate all demurrals on the individual level, we must cede reality to an epistemological nihilism, and exile all values and morals in the name of “neutrality.” As we see, “neutrality” isn’t neutral atall.]
I would not have chosen William O. Douglas’s formulation: I picked him out as a lion of jurisprudential liberalism, that even he, as late as 1952, was making an argument similar to the one I make here. The “godless” Constitution is a recent invention, yet most folks born since 1952 believe it has always been so.
I should probably have done a full blogpost on this, but I admit a laziness and a greater affinity for discussions like these than monographs.
Thx for asking, Tim. I hope you did indeed find it “interesting” and yours was not just another spider-to-the-fly invitation.Report
Endowed by their creator does not appear in our founding document. So why on earth are you referencing it?
Constitution != declarationReport
Asked and answered infra, Mr. Pirate. The Declaration has no legal force, true; however, it gives us a tool to understand what the ratifiers understood themselves to be ratifying.
Further, religion was left to the states: the First Amendment enjoins the central gov’t from butting in. To this day, 90+% of the state constitutions acknowledge a Supreme Being in one form or another. The ratification of neither the First or Fourteenth made them unconstitutional.
Well, at least that’s how it stands now. I have no expectations about what the “living” Constitutionalists will rule as time goes by. But as it stands now, the question of God remains open: the Constitution demands neither God nor godlessness.
This is a very difficult issue to negotiate discussion in a forum like this. I thank you in advance for a cooperative—as opposed to adverserial—joint inquiry. Any other approach will kill it.Report
I did not know this. What is the page limit?Report
Depends on the kind of brief you’re doing, of course. For instance, in California’s appellate courts, an appellant’s or respondent’s opening brief is limited to 14,000 words. Or, in California’s trial courts, most motions must be 15 pages of argument or less. These are normally generous enough limits that I don’t need to crimp my style, but sometimes more complex things come up and I need to uncomfortably squish things down.Report
Tod, just because I know you’re dying to find out, there are as many as 963 oil change establishments near Poway 🙂Report
This made me laugh out loud. Loudly.Report
> The ironic thing is, it seems that he and his
> principal were on their way to a productive
> discussion about reaching that exact
> solution when the lawsuit got filed.
Wait. Who filed the suit, then?Report
Well, Johnson did. And we can’t ever really know the dynamics of how that came about.Report
Ah, I grok your nuance.
Yes, sometimes people are standing there arguing about which ride to go on at Disneyland vs. waiting for the Main Street Electrical Parade, and then the Parade starts and things take a different course.
The die has been cast, and all that.Report
I certainly would ask for another calculus teacher for my kid* if I saw that stuff in their teachers classroom.
*Kid is currently hypothetical and I have yet to convince the gf we Gould have one.Report
Having not read through your thorough analysis yet Burt, my first thoughts are, it’s not “his” classroom, so the Principal or whoever else is in charge of the school’s property cand do as they see fit.
However, in principle I see no problem with one teacher expressing their point of view as such. If kids don’t like it or feel unwelcome, they don’t have to like him. Part of growing up is learning how to tolerate, deal with, or not deal with, those things and people who displease us.Report
I’m about 85% with you, E.C. Gach. I would say that it’s not Johnson’s classroom, so the school authorities can create whatever Constitutional rule they see fit. The big issues for what “Constitutional” means in this context are viewpoint-neutral and evenhandedly administered. That’s a treacherous sea to navigate, though, and I’m not entirely satisifed even with my own proposed route through it.Report
But in acting, the school should have acted evenhandedly. If Johnson has to take down his religious/political/historical posters, then so do his colleagues.
Isn’t this context dependent? With different contexts in the other classrooms the particular postings become permissible or impermissible? So I could see a music teacher and the Lennon Imagine display or a social studies teacher and the Tibetan prayer flags changing the analysis – as well as whether the display dominates the classroom as Johnson’s posters did. Also, there is the discussion of intent, the fact that the teacher who put up the prayer flags “had no idea as to whether the flags had any particular or significant religious import” is a pretty significant. I think the point of evenhandedly applying the analysis is right, but I’m not sure that it would result in all colleagues having to remove their posters as well.
(Thanks for a fascinating post. And hurray for long(er) form posts, you didn’t need the “TL/DR” people anyway.)Report
I’m going to agree with Burt’s suggestion.
If action is required or desirable, the standard for action must be set, thus providing all of the teachers with the actual framing of intent, on the part of the administration.
Because intent is pretty important in these sorts of disputes, it behooves the guys and gals in charge to make their position clear. If you find Johnson’s display inappropriate for whatever reason, you need to draft and quantify that and then disburse it to the entire faculty at once, to ensure equal treatment.
Plus, it will save the district a metric fishton of money when they get sued.
Any sort of written policy that allows whatever it is you think is appropriate while disallowing what you think is inappropriate, dispensed to the faculty and enforced across the board, is better than an ad hoc one-off ruling against a particular faculty member.Report
For me part of the issue is that there is less danger of inadvertently giving the impression of state support for some religions rather than others. Overall, Christianity is the privileged religion in the US (December 25 as a federal holiday, the White House Christmas Tree, etc.), there is far less danger of Tibetan Buddhism eclipsing Christianity in this way. Which isn’t to say in similar circumstances, a Tibetan Buddhist’s math class displaying overwhelmingly celebratory imagery should not also receive the same treatment as Johnson. Overall, I think context matters and principals should be given more latitude beyond everythings allowed free-for-all or nothings allowed prohibition.Report
While I agree with you about Buddhism, there are those who would say that “anti-religion” is making a credible threat at being Established, though. I think a lot of those who have that point of view fog up the difference between secularism and antipathy to religion (generally inadvertently), but that does not mean that there is not a point to be made there.
For instance, as a nonbeliever, I would prefer the President not add “so help me God” to the end of his oath of office. But if the President wants to say it as a religious expression of his sincerity when making the oath, then yes, he can do so, and a lawsuit to prevent him from doing so is both incorrect as a matter of law and misguided.
Neutrality means just that, even if it’s sometimes hard to find. I don’t think either court here found a truly neutral result.Report
Burt, How do you feel in court with the witness stating, “I promise to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth… so help me God”? Or is that only in the movies anymore?Report
You don’t have to swear to gosh to tell the truth anymore. sorry.Report
Actually, it’s the clerk stating it and the witness saying “I do.”
By statute, it’s proper to administer the oath either with or without the “…so help you God” portion and the decision about which version to use is at the discretion of the clerk.
My own declarations and affidavits use the religion-neutral form of the oath.
At time, I feel that the “…so help you God” is a bit presumptive in that it simply assumes that the witness believes in God in the first place. But so what? The witness still is required to tell the truth and that’s what counts. The penalty of perjury applies with equal force to all witnesses, regardless of their religious views.
I treat the “…so help you God” clause (when imposed upon me or my clients) as an irritating surplussage. No need to make a fuss nor any profit to be had in doing so.Report
If Johnson has to take down his religious/political/historical posters, then so do his colleagues.
I think this is the core of the matter. If the school, or the courts, are going to make Johnson take down posters convening a theist viewpoint (nothing in them is specifically Christian), they also have to prevent teachers from having posters expression Buddhist, Hindu, secularist/anti-religion, etc. beliefs. You can’t single out one group.Report
I love these posts.
My problem is that I have nothing to add to the points you’ve made. I just start thinking about something else and then make a comment about *THAT*.
So pardon my digression.
I don’t really know how to feel about ceremonial deism.
It’s not an establishment of a religion (it’s barely monotheism) and it allows pretty much everybody to project their own religion onto the religion as it is practiced. So a Catholic guy and a Southern Babtist and a Jewish guy and a Muslim can all smile and nod and think that it’s their take on the deity being thanked for the fellowship, food, and the grand opening of this here hardware store.
In that, ceremonial deism is inclusive of pretty much everybody who agrees with Eisenhower’s statement that “our form of government has no sense unless it is founded in a deeply felt religious faith, and I don’t care what it is.” (“A deeply felt religious faith, and I don’t care what it is” is a great description of ceremonial deism in the first place.)
On the other hand, it kinda gives the game away, no? The point is the deeply felt and “I don’t care what it is” and, in that, it undercuts the exact same thing that it’s supposedly holding up… and the proper response to that, for a person who has a particular flavor of deeply felt religious faith, is to point out how this ceremonial deism is *ACTUALLY* Post-Protestant Evangelical Christianity (or whatever)… at which point we see stuff like in the lawsuit.
It seems mostly harmless, until it isn’t, at which point it should probably be told to knock it off… but a rule outlawing such in the first place would likely result in more general harm in the long term.Report
Deism was often considered heretical, and there’s a reason for that.Report
Why are we eliding atheists in this discussion?Report
You can’t possibly be. An atheist was the author of the OP.Report
I imagine that atheists are the biggest fans of ceremonial deism. It allows them to complain about deeply held religious faith and I don’t care what it is.Report
I’m not very good at putting myself in an atheist’s shoes. Is being asked to say “One nation, under God” as irritating to them as being asked to recite John 3:16 is to me?Report
Imagine being asked to give an impromptu speech about John 3:16 being irritating to you. Imagine having a captive audience who must, under pain of law, listen to your speech about John 3:16.
It’s like that.
(Assuming, of course, you *LOVE* to give speeches.)Report
I don’t think judging all atheists by Richard Dawkins is fair. (For one thing, most of them would have figured out Mr. Garrison was a man.)Report
How about Julia Sweeney?Report
Pretty sure she’s a woman.Report
Well, there are atheists and there are anti-theists.
Imagine a time machine. Imagine going back in time to Imperial Rome. Imagine having a translator device.
Imagine hearing a senator invoke Jupiter.
Now. Are you irritated?
If you aren’t, would you be irritated if a senator invoked “god”, of all deities? If so, imagine the joys of arguing atheism with people who haven’t ever even considered it before! Surely the stuff they did to people who didn’t believe as they did was exaggerated.Report
Cicero quoted Cato, who used to wonder how two soothsayers could look one another in the face without laughing. Skepticism is older than you might think.Report
There is skepticism and there is irritation.
I find skepticism to be a balm, myself.Report
When a professional atheist can have Jerry Falwell’s career, I’ll start to worry about them.Report
…does this mean Jesus wins?Report
Oh, Bob.
The battle is already won.Report
Amen bro!Report
Fascinating post. Thanks!Report
Thank you for the feedback. That’s the currency I look for.Report
I dunno. At first glance I’m tremendously annoyed by these posters, because it’s blatantly obvious that they are pushing a specific viewpoint regarding religion–call it Ceremonial Deism if you like, but it’s clear that the point is “God exists and the US is based on what he wants”.
But, on the other hand…would I be happy with giant homemade banners saying “Religion is a lie, independent thought is the only way to truth”? Or “Bush caused 9/11”? Or “government interference in the market will destroy prosperity”? No.
Which, paradoxically, means that I have to accept all of them. Because, when I get down to it, my objection is aesthetic. The message is stridently delivered in a needlessly blunt manner that lacks any attempt at subtlety or interest in the audience; it’s poorly thought-out and belies a lack of intellectual capability (in the presentation and the simplicity of statement, not in the specific notions behind it, to which I’m not speaking); the graphical design (font choice, typesetting, layout) is as bland as an unsalted wheat-flour cracker. It’s ugly. And that’s why I don’t like it.Report
For me a big sticking point is that those posters were hung in a calculus classroom, and have nothing whatsoever to do with calculus. Thus, even if a student were to want to express a dissenting view, there would be little context in which she could do so without disrupting the class’s schedule and routine. If one does think of a classroom as a limited public forum (and I don’t). then there must be room for expression of an opposing viewpoint. In a calculus classroom, there seems little chance that a student may do so.Report
That’s a good point, Doc.
If it isn’t a limited public forum, then the speech issue doesn’t apply.
And if it is, then the good teacher has a disproportionate amount of power over the other people in the public forum. Hey, I just referenced a new post! Serendipity!Report
Ahh. So that’s how you get 50+ comments at the drop of a ‘hat’.Report
Mostly it’s because I’m at heart a commentor.
So I blather on in the comments. It drives up the score.Report
Set theory, maybe? With the right assumptions you can take apart a sphere and reassemble the pieces into three spheres of the same size.Report
Burt, what percentage of 9th District Circus decisions are laughed out of the Supreme Court?
On the other hand the teacher is guilty of coercion.Report
I’m actually curious as to the answer to Bob’s question.Report
“Laughed out”? None. The Supremes take their work seriously, as they should. If they see error of law coming from the Ninth, that is a matter to be addressed with sobriety, not contempt or derision.
I don’t know how many 9th Circuit decisions are reversed. I suggest that if you undertake such a study, you would be well-advised to separate out capital punishment cases from the rest. Should you do such a thing, I would predict that the reversal rate is roughly the same across all the Circuits. Perhaps I would be wrong.
Now, it is true that a disproportionate number of the active Circuit Judges on the Ninth Circuit were appointed by President Bill Clinton and that the Circuit has a reputation for being particularly liberal. But I’m not all that confident that the liberal reputation of the Ninth has been all that well-earned (at least, outside of the capital punishment arena). It is the case that some individual Judges on the Ninth (Reinhardt, Pregerson, Paez) are unusually eloquent and powerful in their opinions, and these tend to be lionized by liberals and demonized by conservatives. But the righties have their heroes on this bench, too (Kozinski some of the time, O’Scannlian, Bybee).
The Ninth Circuit opinion in this case was decided by a panel of two Clinton appointees and a Bush II appointee. Note that the panel decision was unanimous.Report
There is this site. It also references others. I’m currently playing with the scotusblog, but its search engine doesn’t seem to work right so I’m doing some Google-Fu tricks on it.Report
The answer seems to be 80% overturn ratio the last 10 yrs or so. That also includes “vacates” whatever they are.Report
How does that compare with other Circuits, and does that include or exclude capital punishment cases?Report
Worse than the other circuits but then again the 9th is the biggest. Couldn’t work out the capital punishment angle. I ain’t a lawyer so this is the kind of stuff I was having to wade through memo They seem to have done best in that year, which is why I gave it to you. Maybe you’ll know which if any are capital cases, the verbiage doesn’t really help me. In the good old days I could have used my friend’s law school Westlaw access and done searches there, but he’s fully retired now so no joy.Report
WS, thanks for the info. We must keep in mind that the Ninth covers the land of fruits and nuts and that alone has be a terrible burden. I do hope you’ll care on with the inquiry because an 80% throw out rate seems high. I seem to remember some of the cases in the 80’s and 90’s got the court tagged with, “circus.” Burt, I appreciate your efforts to maintain the idea of the supremecy of the law.Report
I confess I’m a little bit surprised that the rate is that high (if I read Scotusblog’s memo correctly, about 10% higher than the reversal rate for the other Circuits), but again I think the capital punishment angle would account for a lot of that as the Ninth really does stand apart on that issue as compared to its sister circuits — a high number of states in its jurisdiction with capital punishment on their books but a high occurrence of judges on the Circuit who have significant qualms about capital punishment in the first place. I can recall one opinion in a habeas case by Justice Scalia in which he focused particular ire and irritation at the Ninth. Scalia indulges in invective much more than any of his colleagues (although Justice Kagan is starting to give him a run for his money) so again this may not be the most objective, reliable data point from which to draw a conclusion.
On further consideration, I wonder if the high reversal rate has something to do with the fact that the Supreme Court gets to pick and choose which cases it reviews. If there was something approximating consensus among the nine Justices that a particular case had been decided correctly, it’s doubtful that they would select that case for review.
But it could very well also be the case that despite these things, the Ninth is appreciably more out of step with the Supremes than its sister Circuits and that wardsmith‘s research bears out that proposition. Thanks for doing the tedious work of looking into it, WS!Report
…. Or, it could just be that they see different cases. 3rd circuit takes all the corporate cases, because nearly all corporations get incorporated in Delaware (or at least a lot of the large ones).Report
Really enjoyable read. As a student, I can’t imagine myself getting too upset over these posters..They almost strike me as funny, in a “America, fuck yeah!” kind of way. So long as the teacher didn’t actively call attention to the posters or give the impression of favoring religious students over non-religious students. If he teaches me calculus well, then I’m happy.
But when it comes to obeying your boss, I don’t think the teacher’s case is strong enough to warrant claims of discrimination. Maybe a little heavy-handed, but certainly within the principal’s jurisdiction. The principal’s action met all three prongs on the Lemon test and no school wants to be on the hook for a potential Establishment clause debacle. Although, ironically, by trying to avoid one lawsuit, the school only ended up getting in different one. God’s will, perhaps?Report