Let’s face it: We knew that Harris would win back in August

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  1. Chip Daniels
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    What is often overlooked is that 2016 and 2020 were almost identical outcomes.
    One was a razor thin victory in one direction, the other a razor thin victory in the other, but both were razor thin, turning on a few tens of thousands of votes in a few counties in a few states.

    And all polling to date suggests that 2024 will be the same. Whether Harris or Trump, the winner will be decided by a few tens of thousands of votes in states like Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania.

    A 1984 landslide just isn’t going to happen. A 2008 solid and convincing victory isn’t going to happen.

    I would love to be proven wrong, but again, right now the polls just aren’t pointing to such an event.
    And further, the polls have remained virtually unchanged for almost a decade.

    Since 2015 Trump’s base of support has fluctuated only slightly, ranging from a high of maybe 47% of the electorate to a low of maybe 45% depending on how the mix is tabulated.

    And probably more importantly, even if Harris wins a solid win of lets say 55%, Trumpism will still be in firm control of about half of the country.

    For at least another decade, America will be one recession, one spike in gas prices, one gaffe or scandal away from Trumpism and the end of democracy.Report

    • Saul Degraw in reply to Chip Daniels
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      I still have a feeling that Harris could get a 2012 style victory but you could be correct. That being said 2016 and 2020 were only “close” because of the horrible and counter-majoritarian electoral colleges. 2016 and 2020 with popular vote counts would be considered horrible defeats for TrumpReport

      • Chip Daniels in reply to Saul Degraw
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        Right, but my main point is that Trumpism (roughly defined as White Christian Nationalism) isn’t a fluke or one-off, but something that is widely and deeply popular all across America.

        And this is something a lot of pundits refuse to accept.Report

        • Dark Matter in reply to Chip Daniels
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          Trumpism is Obama-ism. There is one guy and his followers buy into him emotionally to the point where they ignore they don’t have a good reason.

          Difference is Obama was far more ethical, saner, stayed inside the guard rails, and didn’t want to be a cult leader past the election.Report

  2. North
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    What the heck? Did this publish a month early? I need to go knock on wood and collect some rabbits feet or something!Report

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