We Should Talk More About Dying, Cause You Will

Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has been the Managing Editor of Ordinary Times since 2018, is a widely published opinion writer, and appears in media, radio, and occasionally as a talking head on TV. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter@four4thefire. Andrew is the host of Heard Tell podcast. Subscribe to Andrew'sHeard Tell Substack for free here:

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  1. Jaybird says:

    Yeah. Well said.

    Part of the issue is that the immediate impulse to say something like “poor Jimmy Carter” or “Poor Rosalynn” is that you’re stuck asking “what’s the alternative?”

    Another two months? And then what? Another two months? And then what?

    There was a section in one of the Stephen King books that I don’t remember what it was (Insomnia, maybe?) where an old person said that life was having a magnificent feast and old age was like having a crappy dessert… and then they went on to clarify that, no, that’s not right either. A magnificent feast and a great dessert and then, as you’re walking out, an absolutely crappy mint.

    They are exceptionally fortunate and we should all be so lucky.

    Ah, poor Jimmy. Poor Rosalynn.Report

  2. Correction: his wife of nearly 80 years. Hard to imagine.Report

  3. Damon says:

    I didn’t watch the service, I never watch these types of things, but I agree. Frankly, as i approach the part of my life where I have less time ahead than behind, I find myself thinking about how I want to leave this mortal coil. One parent had an active mind trapped in a body that he couldn’t control, the other has virtually no mind and isn’t aware of much, but lingers in this life unable to express her suffering. Neither is a way I choose to leave this life, yet alternatives negativity impact others…from a legal aspect….so i’m left to ponder the best way to exit at a time of my choosing….Report

    • Burt Likko in reply to Damon says:

      There are states that have Death With Dignity laws. There are hoops to jump through before you can invoke them. I don’t know how life insurance companies feel about them. But they exist for precisely this purpose because it isn’t about money if it comes to such a point.

      May it be many years before you have a need to confront such issues for yourself, and I wish you ample strength in supporting your parents through these difficult final phases of life.Report

      • Damon in reply to Burt Likko says:

        Thanks Burt. Dad is dead…long time now. ALS. My mom sits in a good care facility but barely recognizes me. Most of what made her, her, is gone. I’ll welcome the day she’s gone, if only selfishly because it pains me to see her like she is now. At least she is cared for well. As for me, yes I hope to live another several decades, but now is the time to write living wills, durable powers of medical attorney, and to plan for when those tools no longer serve.Report

  4. Burt Likko says:

    I was unaware of social media backlash on the part of anyone regarding Ms. Carter’s funeral. I’m very glad I missed it. Would that the OP’s observations about people using the canvas of a funeral to pronounce whatever thing that they already believed to be true were untrue — but as we’ve observed with high-publicity mass shootings, those emotionally-wrought events also are used to prove “I was right all along,” which is true even of diametrically opposed points of view. I suspect this is simply an ugly facet of human nature and there is no solution to it.Report

  5. Saul Degraw says:

    In 2021, I received a phone call out of the blue from someone I had not spoken to since college. She informed me that another person from college died of an enlarged heart in his sleep. This guy was less than two years my senior. I had known people my age who died before or people who died young but something about that call spoked me in a way that the deaths of other people did not. He is not even the first relatively young person I had known to die in my sleep. When I was 22 or 23, a woman I went to high school with died in her sleep and I don’t think drugs or alcohol were involved.Report

  6. Fish says:

    Well said, Andrew. Thank you.Report

  7. Anita says:

    I linked to this article via the Dispatch – and am so grateful for it. Andrew profoundly articulated some of the things I had been thinking this past week as I mused on the services at Glenn Memorial for Rosalyn Carter. The video of Jimmy Carter being rolled into the church has haunted me in a deeply soul-stirring, powerful way. “He looked like he was at death’s door,” my 86 year old mother said with fear in her voice. “Yes,” – I said – “he is — and what a view.” Thank you Andrew for your words of admonishment and encouragement – to remember the rules of the game.Report

  8. MikkhiKisht says:

    We keep trying to forget, no one gets out of life alive. Life doesn’t come with Instagram filters, it’s messy from arrival to departure. While it was heartbreaking to see Mr. Carter in such shape, I’ll borrow some comfort in knowing they’ll be back together soon.Report