Saturday Morning Gaming: Cyberpunk 2077 Reviewed
This will contain spoilers for Cyberpunk 2077 insofar as it discusses a handful of side quests from the later game in broad detail.
I am playing this game on a pretty good gaming PC. It’s got an SSD, a double buttload of memory, and one of those newfangled graphics cards that everybody is talking about. As such, I will be reviewing the game as “something that works” rather than as “something that is so very broken that even Sony and Microsoft has announced that they’ll be giving refunds for digital sales“.
I mean, if the game is unplayable out of the box, then we’re not in “complaining about the game” territory, are we? And there are a *LOT* of reports of the game being unplayable out of the box. If you’re idly wondering “will my system be able to do it?”, the answer is “probably not”. So the first part of this official review is “you shouldn’t get this game unless you’re sure you can run it on your warhorse PC”.
There’s probably an interesting article to be written about investors demanding that a game be released, even in an unplayable state, because they want their money and they don’t care about anything else.
Anyway.
If you’re still reading, I’ll say that the majority of the complaints about the game (and they are legion) fall into one of two categories:
1. This isn’t the game I had spent the last 7 years daydreaming about.
2. This isn’t the game I was promised.
One of the rumors I had heard about years ago involved language translation chips. You start the game without a language chip at all. Then you get a language chip that translates poorly. Like “All Your Base Are Belong To Us” poorly. Then you get a real translation chip that just works.
Holy cow! I thought. That’s cyberpunk as heck!
As it is, there is a language translation chip in your head. It subtitles foreign languages. So when you hear someone speaking Japanese, it has subtitles floating underneath their faces that translate their Japanese language into English text. You don’t get to upgrade it. You don’t need to.
Yeah. That’s Cyberpunk. I guess.
The Cyberpunk twitters, back before the game was released, quite regularly tweeted about the cars and motorcycles in the game. I always was confused about that. Why aren’t they tweeting about the cyberdecks you’re going to be using???
Well, that’s because you’re going to spend more time driving than cyberdecking.
So I’ll say that this game is not Cyberpunk 2077: Netrunner. It is Cyberpunk 2077: Solo. You’re playing the game as a Solo. You care about cars and you care about guns and you care about body modifications that give you armor or make it easier for you to shoot people. You do engage in hacking, but it’s either the hacking that you do as you run around doing Solo stuff (you can force a reboot of optical implants, for example) or breaking into stuff on the network and stealing creds. If you’re perking up at the “breaking into stuff on the network and stealing creds” and remembering playing Shadowrun on the Sega, don’t. You’re given a small hacking minigame that will test your ability to read a grid and plan out moves on the grid. Hacking takes about 20 seconds. It’s just barely more interesting than the hacking mechanic in the SNES Shadowrun.
Now, I find both of the above to be disappointing. Whose problem is that? Is that the problem of the game? Is that a problem with my own expectations? I mean, I wanted a game that had hacking the way that Sega Shadowrun did hacking. I did not get that. Whose problem is that?
You’re also playing a pre-established character. Like in the Witcher, you’re playing Geralt. Like in Red Dead Redemption 2, you’re playing Arthur. Like in Grand Theft Auto 4, you’re playing Nico. There are theoretical avenues that just aren’t available to you because you have a particular personality already. You don’t get to pick a third way a lot of the time. You just get to pick what mood your character is in as you agree to do what the game asks you to do.
I wanted to play with *MY* character. I wanted options to be presented to me and then for me to say “nope, I want to do it a different way” and then get a third way presented to me. I didn’t get that. Instead, I got Grand Theft Auto 2077. Whose problem is that?
Now, the game itself, even on a system that runs it well, is buggier than a lollipop in an ant farm. You’re going to see T Poses in a lot of places. Like, you go into a bar and you’re walking past some hot people who are all talking and one of them is in a T Pose. Another time, I was walking past a busker who was playing air guitar. They were playing air guitar masterfully. Like, the fingerwork appeared to be accurate to my untrained eye (that is, the hand moved and fingers shifted when chords changed). But there was no guitar. Maybe they were playing a cyber guitar.
When it comes to stuff like character customization, the customization is vaguely disappointing as well. I go to a great deal of trouble to outfit my dude. I make sure that he looks fresh, as we used to say. But I only see him in the character screen and, occasionally, behind the wheel of a car. So this makes getting new clothing pretty much unrewarding. Do you want pants that look dumb that give you 45.3 armor or pants that make you look *AWESOME* that give you 42.8 armor? If you never see yourself, why not just go for the 45.3 armor? It’s not like you’re not going to swap it out when you find something that gives you 45.4 armor.
So what about combat? Well, they do a good job of having different ways to do stuff. It’s possible to hack people and set them on fire or melt their brains. It’s possible to get Mantis arm implants (like those seen in the teaser oh-so-many years ago) and do some serious melee damage. There are smart guns that make gun combat easier for people who aren’t into the whole FPS thing. I, myself, use a combination of a sniper rifle and an ocular implant that gives me bonus damage for headshots. Since my first sniper rifle, I have upgraded sniper rifles exactly twice. I have a sweet one with a sweet scope and it’s only against people undergoing cyberpsychosis that I might ever need to take a second shot.
In the same way that the game goes out of its way to give you different ways to fight, it has a lot of quests that give you different ways to do them. You’ll recognize all of the classic side quest forms:
1. Fetch Quest (and its twin sibling Delivery Quest)
2. Sneak Quest where you have to go in and touch an item and then sneak out (and its twin sibling Assassination Quest where you have to go in and kill somebody and then sneak out)
3. Conversation Quest where you have to talk to somebody (in person… you can’t, like, just call them)
4. Combat Quest where you go in and kill everybody
And there are the quests that mix any or all of these together.
Now, there are quite a few side quests that are just “meh”. You’ve played all of these quests a thousand times in dozens and dozens of games. BUT! There are a handful of quests that add a pretty cool Cyberpunk flair to them. Like, there’s a side quest where you help your AI buddy wrangle the taxi cabs that have lost contact with home base. Some of the cabs want to kill you. Some of the cabs only need to be talked to. Some of the cabs are trying to run away from you and it’s your job to stay within a certain distance of them for a certain period of time. All the while, they’re giving you monologues.
This is pretty cool. Now, I’ve noticed that there are a number of quests that are just “meh” but, if you engage with the flavor text, the quests become somewhat more cool. For example, there’s a quest where you have to get a gambler’s eye back. (He bet it and lost.) Now, if you just look at the quest, it’s sneak in, touch jar, sneak out, delivery quest to drop-off point. But if you engage with the flavor text, you’re stealing back an eye that was lost in a card game from a street gang that you’ve got beef with. Now your Fixer’s buddy has his eye back. You can feel good about that.
An ideal quest, of course, is one that is fun without having to do the reading. But if you do the reading, you’ll see that there are a lot of really cool quests out there that, on the surface, are just one of the four forms. (I just finished one of the “assist the cops” side quests that involved killing 4 gangsters who were standing over a couple of dead bodies. After the quest, I read the transcript of what happened and why the police wanted to outsource this one. The transcript described an interaction between the gangsters and the now-dead people they were standing over that set up what had happened 5 minutes before I encountered them. But if I didn’t read the transcript, I’d just be shooting 4 gangsters in the head.)
They do a good job of having multiple ways to do a lot of quests. A fetch quest might send you into a building. If you have good enough tech skills, you can hack your way through one of the side doors. If you have good enough body, you can force the back door open. If you are, instead, a sneaker, look around and see if you can get on the roof. I betcha there’s a hatch you can shimmy through and get in that way.
But, for the most part, the quests are only good if you do the required reading. (As someone who *LOVES* reading flavor text, I dig it. I can see how someone else might not, though.)
But what about the main quests in the game? HOLY CRAP THESE ARE AWESOME. I’m having a blast going through the main storyline. The dialog is good, the characterization is very strong, the voice acting is off-the-charts, and I can’t wait to see what happens next. Well, maybe after some more side quests. But after the side quests, I can’t wait. The main story is so good that I don’t *MIND* that it’s not Cyberpunk 2077: Neuromancer. But, ironically, that also makes this one of the games that can give you the lion’s share of the joy of playing the game by just watching youtubes of the cutscenes. All of the joys of the story, none of the frustrations of playing the game.
As one of those Gen Xers who played Cyberpunk 2020 and loved it, who loved reading the sourcebooks, who loved playing Shadowrun on the SNES and the Sega and complained that all of the good hacking went into the latter while the amazing story went into the former, I’ll say this: This game is a lot like playing Shadowrun on the SNES. The story is SO GOOD. Heck, they did a good job (on the surface anyway) of creating the world. You walk through ultra-ritzy corporate areas that just oooze money. I feel envy just walking on the sidewalk. Then you turn down an alley and find a homeless encampment next to a crime scene. You go out to the sticks and see miles and miles of trash as far as the eye can see. Then you get back on the road and drive to a ripperdoc and get sub-dermal armor. The spices are just right for the world. This *IS* the world from Cyberpunk 2020. The beauty is only skin-deep, though. So much of the game is shallow… the side stuff that is bland and meh and has you remembering other games that you were hoping that this game would be more like and remembering the game that you were hoping for and this is not that game.
And, worse than that, it’s unplayable for a majority of the people out there who would want to play it in the first place. And, heck, might even be the cause of a recession in Europe.
I think it’s fair to say that the game is a disaster.
But it happens to be a disaster that was calibrated in a lab to appeal to a handful of people… and I am among that handful. I hope that the modders can turn this thing around and make it playable for more people than just those with warhorse PC setups and, more than that, make it enjoyable for more people than just children of the 70’s and 80’s who will love revisiting one of the retrofutures from their childhood.
So… what are you playing?
(Featured image is a trashheap. Screenshot from the game taken by the author.)
One thing that the game does that drives me nuts is that there are approximately 50 kinds of food. Locust Pepperoni Pizza (it’ll swarm your taste buds!)! Slaughter House Prime (with over 70% syn-meat derivatives)! Cat Food (it’ll have you purring in no time)!
They all have distinct looks and distinct (and sometimes amusing) flavor text.
And each one applies the Nourishment Status for 450 seconds (which increase max hit points and healing rate outside of combat). Each and every one. None of them do it for 449 seconds or fewer. None do it for 451 seconds or more. Each one is identical as far as the bonuses are concerned.
Drinks work pretty much the exact same way. All of the booze does the exact same thing (everclear might as well be beer and vice-versa) and all of the non-booze does the exact same thing whether it be a milkshake or water or Chromanticore. You get the Hydration status for 450 seconds (and get a bonus to Stamina).
The flavor text is good. The effects are all the same.Report
Still on Darkest Dungeon. I’ve attempted the first level of the Darkest Dungeon proper three times, and each has failed. The first one was pretty good. I got pretty far but ultimately failed and had to run with only two of my party surviving. The second and third attempts were both laughably futile and shockingly alike: An excellent start, cutting through enemies like butter, and then the wheels suddenly come off and I’m left waiting to see who is the last hero standing so I can run. Good times.
I see that Gears Tactics is 50% off, but since it’s sitting at “mostly positive” I hesitate to pay even $29.99.Report
I’m playing cyberpunk right now.
I’ve not had any of the experiences you mentioned. The game crashed once. I have some minor clipping issues where I couldn’t loot something, but otherwise, it’s run fine. A glitch here or there but 90+ of the time i barely notice them, and only then as they are rather rare.
I’m running an intel I7-6700 @ 3.4 ghz with 16 gig of ram, nvidia geforce gtx 960. 1tb hard drive. No SSD
I don’t consider this anything near state of the art and this game is pretty damn stable. As to the questions…pretty much what you said. I’m doing a lot of side quest. The weapon mod and other tabs, inventory, etc. are a bit confusing but I attributed that to learning curve.Report
I feel a bit out of place, because I did not have any interest in Cyberpunk (and I Kickstarted Shadowrun Returns back in the day). Maybe it is because I never played the tabletop. It sounded like something that I might enjoy (before it was actually released), but I did not feel that excitement that so many did.
Last week I got a copy of Super Robot Wars X. This is a series of tactical RPGs, like Fire Emblem, except the units are a mixture of mecha, battleships, and other vehicles from a mixture of different anime. Your squad could have a couple Gundams with Gurren Lagaan and a Mazinger. Thy also include lesser known anime as well. It’s my first time playing one, and so far it has been fun, though nothing ground breaking. I am still early on, and I have not fully explored any of the systems yet to have a solid opinion on it.
I also got a copy of Tony Hawk remastered from the Epic Games winter sale, but I have not spent much time playing yet. I have heard good things about it, though, and I really enjoyed the first two games back in the day.Report
If you kickstarted Shadowrun Returns back in the day, I’d say that this game is something to file away into your “I should look at this again in 2022 or 2023” databanks after the equivalent of the Witcher 3 Blood and Wine DLC comes out.
By that point in time, your expectations should be well-managed (none of this thinking “I’ll play as a Netrunner!” crap), the biggest bugs will be memories talked about while people are laughing, and it’ll be at around a 50% discount.
Tony Hawk is a blast. If you liked the first two games way back when, this game was made for you. (Though you might find yourself saying “I used to be better at this game…”)Report
I’ve been getting better at the game but it still feels like it is geared towards being for super-gamers at the expense of everyone else with too many bells and whistles.Report
Many of the bells and whistles do have some added functionality. If you find yourself dying too much, see if you can’t get some sub-dermal armor. (I got some and it *SERIOUSLY* helped me die a lot less. Sure, there are some corporate soldier-types who can kill me if I’m not very careful but I’m no longer dying after one or two hits from street-level thugs.)
Also, points in Body will give you additional HP and points in Reflexes will give you bonuses to Evasion.
(And always be nourished! You get 7.5 minutes of nourishment from any given foodstuff… the game just has food lying around. Don’t bother picking it up, just press the “eat it now” key and it’ll reset you back.)Report
This is sort of what I mean by bells and whistles, it is just too much to keep track of for being necessary especially. I noticed my character was being kind of slow and now it seems like food/norishment might be why.Report
Yes, stay hydrated. (There are also clothing upgrades that can improve your speed by a handful of percentage points.)
Also, use Fast Travel Hubs (those are the blue/purple pins in the map. If you’ve ever found a fast travel hub in the past, you can get to it from any other fast travel hub).
And, yeah, use the car/motorcycle if you have to go more than 300-400 yards UNLESS you want to do the various little Assault in Progress or Suspected Organized Crime Activities between here and there.
The radio stations are surprisingly good and the DJs occasionally pop in with funny comments about what’s going on in the wider world (not essential by any means, but amusing nonetheless).Report
I read a Kokatu article that made a good point. A lot of people were way too emotionally invested in this game because they ordered it years in advance for no benefit. I ordered my copy a week or so before release on Amazon and got it on time.Report
Yeah, while I didn’t pre-order it until October, I was definitely one of the people who psyched myself up (and out) about the game.
I mean, go back and re-watch the teaser trailer. What, if anything, does it tell you?
It tells you that you’re in Night City, life is cheap, and the cops don’t have sufficient weaponry to deal with Cyberpsychosis.
Oh, and the authorities are corrupt and might be in on it.
Which tells you a lot about the setting, I guess, but the teaser tells you *NOTHING* about the gameplay.
AND I BOUGHT INTO THE HYPE I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER BUT I BOUGHT INTO THE HYPEReport
Steam Sale has begun! Most of the stuff I want is only 33% off or so but you may find that the stuff that you want has good discounts.
Epic Store is giving away one game a day until Christmas and today’s is Metro 2033. (Never played it… I picked it up. Maybe it’s good.)
GoG.com is giving away Brigador: Up-armored Deluxe. I know nothing about this one but it has “roguelite” in the description and, hey, free roguelite? What’s the worst that could happen?Report
For those of you who are still open to playing this: I just had to make a decision between two upgrades. They were mutually exclusive and while I could own both, I could not use both at the same time.
Both had upsides that the other didn’t have. It wasn’t a “do you want the +2 sword or the +3 sword?” kinda question.
It was more of a “would you rather use the +2 bow or the +1 dagger that oozes poison?” kinda question.Report