SCOTUS Upholds TikTok Ban: Read It For Yourself
In a 20-page unsigned order the Supreme Court ruled that the law requiring TikTok to be banned if not sold can stand.
Read the SCOTUS upholds TikTok ban decision for yourself here:
SCOTUS Upholds TikTok BanThe Supreme Court on Friday refused to block a federal law that would effectively ban TikTok in the United States as early as this weekend if the wildly popular video-sharing app does not divest from Chinese ownership.
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The justices’ order was a blow for TikTok, prohibiting its operation in the lead-up to Monday’s inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump, who has promised to “save” the app.Trump had asked the Supreme Court to delay implementation of the law to give him an opportunity to act once he returns to the White House. With the court declining that option and no sale of the app seemingly imminent, the ban is now poised to take effect on the eve of Trump’s inauguration.
The court’s unsigned, 20-page order said the ban-or-sale law does not violate the free speech rights of millions of TikTok users in the United States. The law was passed in April with bipartisan support and signed by President Joe Biden in response to national security concerns about the Chinese government’s potential influence over the platform.
The justices said the U.S. government was justified in singling out TikTok, writing that the app’s “scale and susceptibility to foreign adversary control, together with the vast swaths of sensitive data the platform collects, justify differential treatment.”
There were no noted dissents. Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Neil M. Gorsuch wrote separately, agreeing with the court’s judgment about the constitutionality of the law but expressing some concerns.
We are looking at the template for the EU banning Twitter.
That said, EU will have to crack down a lot harder on its citizens to get them to stop using it than the US will. Americans will just jump to RedBook and watch as China bans *THEM*.Report
Europe has no 1A. They already prosecute people for saying mean things on Facebook, making fun of foreign dictators, or even just talking about difficult social and political problems in ways the authorities find upsetting.Report
Yeah, the right to free expression “carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.” (Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights)
Of course, maybe some of those conditions apply to interpretations of the U.S. Constitution, but certainly the U.S. starts with a strong presumption against government regulation of speech.Report
Agreed.Report
“National security”
From the same folks who brought us United States v. Reynolds.Report
That’s one play. The other is “I wonder if Trump will defy the Supreme Court.”Report
Heh. I wonder if he won’t.Report
I don’t. Not at all.Report
I am not one of our con law scholars but I’m surprised anyone saw a possibility of this going any other way. I’m not even sure I understand the 1A case against the law to the extent we’re talking about the big precedents. And I’m one of those dreaded near-absolutists on free speech.Report
Agreed and true.
It is indisputably the case that we should scramble our youth’s brains with proper American algorithms, and I’m confident that Trump will find just the right company to do it.
I’m wondering if this becomes one of those things where we all go, “whelp, that was brilliant of Biden to force Trump to either shut it down or own the transfer” … and Six months later we shake our heads as TwitterTok takes off.Report
I watched the first half hour of arguments without much background and it seemed to me like all of the Justices were skeptical of TikTok’s arguments (but exhibited a lot of uncertainty about a number of issues), but I couldn’t keep watching and the first article I saw later that day had the headline that the Justices were skeptical of TikTok ban. Maybe something happened during questioning of the U.S.?
Anyway, the part that stood out to me was TikTok’s attorney gave an unsolicited hypothetical in which the Chinese government kidnaps Jeff Bezos and forced him to have the Washington Post publish stories to their liking. He said that even in that case, the government cannot do anything to stop publication, though he kind of said under his breath, maybe require a disclaimer. I thought that a pretty provocative hypothetical to offer suggesting that the interpretation of the First Amendment issue they are being asked to accept is more extreme in its potential applications than here.Report
That’s not a direction I would have gone in either.
As I understand the act of Congress the law in question is better understood as a matter of forced divestiture of a business, not a restriction on speech. An interpretation of the 1A that prohibits Congress from passing a law of that nature would be unprecedented indeed.Report
What the hell is “intermediate scrutiny”?Report
Spicier than rational basis but more mild than strict scrutiny.Report
That’s an excellent question. The prevailing jargon is that there are three, or maybe three and a half “levels of scrutiny” when assessing the constitutionality of legislation, usually applied in first amendment or equal protection cases.
First, there is “strict scrutiny,” which applies to explicitly content-based or viewpoint-based (there are subtle differences between the two that aren’t worth getting into) restrictions on speech or explicitly race-based classifications. Strict scrutiny requires that a restriction advance a “compelling government interest” (which can’t, in free speech cases, be based on the desire that people not come to accept the viewpoint being suppressed — so preventing people from coming to believe in communism doesn’t count) and that it be the “least restrictive means” of advancing that interest. (This is a big issue in the porn age verification case; is there another way to keep porn away from the kiddies without making it too hard for adults to get it?) If you apply strict scrutiny, you usually overturn things. The cliche is that “scrutiny is strict in theory but fatal in fact.”
Second is “rational basis” scrutiny, which applies to almost every other legislative classification (and all legislation classifies). This is a very forgiving standard. All you need is a “legitimate state interest”, and if a rational legislator could have thought the measure would advance that interest (even if no actual legislator actually relied on the rationale offered in court), then it stands. So a ban on truck loudspeakers survives a first amendment challenge because cutting down on noise is a legitimate interest and banning people from blaring out messages (of any type–if it banned only things like “Vote for Smith” you’d have a harder question) is a rational measure even if there are better ones available. This doesn’t sound like much, and it isn’t, but that’s not a bug, it’s a feature. If we applied anything stronger than rational basis scrutiny to most government action, nothing would ever get done and lawyers would be the richest people around until the economy crashed. When I said there were possibly three and a half levels of scrutiny, there is a rarely-applied test called “rational basis with teeth,” where the court looks a little harder at the offered justification. Courts seem to apply it when there is some lurking issue of whether the legislation is an ordinary mistake that the government is entitled to make or whether it might be the product of some improper animus. (It was applied in a case involving locations of group homes because the court thought it wasn’t merely zoning, but something to do with the mentally ill.)
That brings us to the third (or third and a half) level, “intermediate scrutiny.” That requires an “important state interest” and the means chosen to advance it must be “substantially related,” not merely rationally related, to advancing that interest. (It must also be, or at least seem, to be the actual purpose for the choice, not merely a purpose the legislature could rationally have been supposed to have.) It first showed up, if I recall correctly, in sex discrimination cases. Where it applies, you can’t second-guess the government. You have to give it some slack. But you can hold its feet to the fire more than you do under strict scrutiny.
So what is “intermediate scrutiny”? Hard to say beyond “I know it when I see it.” That’s likely why Justice Stevens thought the whole “levels of scrutiny” framework was just a clumsy attempt to formalize what was in actual practice, pretty sensible, if poorly articulated. (Justice Marshall advocated a “sliding scale” of scrutiny, a clumsy compromise between the the unduly formal three-ish tier test and “I know it when I see it.”)
I think this is a correct answer to your question. I don’t claim that it is satisfying. Or that it should be.Report
My answer was better in that it doubles as criteria for selecting fried chicken.
IIRC there is also some scholarly debate as to whether in practice the scrutiny applied wasn’t merely a means of guaranteeing the desired outcome.
But I was never great when it came to the metaphysics around constitutional questions.Report
Now I’m hungry.Report
So if they used Strict Scrutiny, TikTok would probably still be allowed (or, at least, it wouldn’t have been a 9-0 decision) but under Intermediate, it’s perfectly reasonable to block in the US?Report
It’s impossible to know the outcome but I would predict that the national security component would give the law a fighting chance of passing even strict scrutiny. Maybe not unanimously but who knows?
There’s also a bigger picture where SCOTUS has historically been much more hesitant about directly taking on Congress, particularly where there isn’t some sort of question about construction or intent.Report