33 thoughts on “About Those ‘Biden Family’ Allegations

  1. Surely you remember when Biden gave his daughter and son-in-law White House jobs and gave his son-in-law an unarmed security clearance. Honestly, everything with Republicans is projection.Report

    1. Yea, see, that wasn’t the joke.

      It wasn’t even really a joke. It was a point.

      Republicans want to point at non-corruption and say it is corruption because it involves Democrats while simultaneously pointing at corruption and saying it is non-corruption because it involves Republicans.

      WHATABOUT-ism is a way of saying, “Yea, maybe this was wrong but it’s okay because the other guy did it, too.”

      This ain’t that. This is: “You want to talk about corruption? Let’s talk about ACTUAL corruption.”Report

      1. I think you missed the humor of the bit. Mike Schilling responded to the article as if it said that Trump was innocent and Biden was guilty. Like the crime of defending Trump is so grave that not even innocence is a defense.Report

          1. We are going to talk about what I want to talk about, Kazzy. We aren’t going to talk about what you want to talk about and we *CERTAINLY* aren’t going to talk about whether the Biden connections are sketchy.

            Marijuana is still Schedule I. What’s up with that?Report

              1. The main essay comes out and talks about Trump. That’s the crazy thing. The main essay points out that there are differences between Trump and Biden and Trump was on that side of the line and Biden is on this side of it.

                Not enough, though. Not enough.Report

              2. Well, it talked about how what Biden is doing might *SEEM* sketch. Then it compared to how Trump actually did stuff that there are rules against.

                “Seems” sketch?

                WHAT ABOUT TRUMPReport

              3. Republicans are alleging corruption. To help us determine whether those allegations deserve to be taken seriously, it is not unreasonable to consider how those same Republicans have responded to corruption in the recent past. Please, can we stop playing the Jaybird game of deliberately missing the point?Report

              4. I’m not deliberately missing the point. I’m deliberately rolling my eyes at attempts to change the point to “look at Trump” instead of “look at the allegations”.

                I mean, goodness. Imagine if someone alleged Trump was acting unethically and the response was “Yeah, like I’d trust people who defended The Clinton Foundation”.

                You’d *IMMEDIATELY* see through that crap, right?

                Well, I’m saying that that crap remains that crap even if the tables were turned (as they have been and will be again).

                As it is, my tentative conclusion is that we’ve got yet another Perfectly Legal Thing going on that everybody in Washington does. It’s greasy and gross but, hey, it’s not illegal.

                And if your definition of “nothingburger” begins and ends with criminal charges, we’ve got a nothingburger here.Report

  2. Welp i guess no on has got any way to support the allegations against Biden. The pol’s like ronjon and boebert are just peddling the “isn’t circumstantial proof about hsi family good enough!?” line.Report

  3. For what it’s worth, the whole “appearance of impropriety” shows up a lot when it’s convenient.

    The stuff like the connections for Hunter are part of the perfectly acceptable corruption in Washington. Did Hunter have interesting insight into Oil and Gas when he got added to the board at Burisma? Of course not. He got that seat because of the list of people who pick up the phone when he calls them.

    “But that’s not *ILLEGAL*!”, you may say. Sure it’s not. Only crazy people would say that it is.
    Did Hunter somehow get Burisma sweet deals that they wouldn’t have gotten otherwise or avoid investigations that would have shown up otherwise? We have no evidence of that happening.

    It’s just regular Washington swampy stuff. Look at any given Senator and see whether their siblings or kiddos or nieces/nephews have sweet sinecures at companies that have upcoming legislation. Of course. And that’s not illegal.

    Quite honestly, it makes a lot of sense. These companies would be foolish to not take advantage of hiring a guy who gets a hand-signed birthday card from a senator every year.

    Is it tacky? Eh.
    It’s the way the world works.

    What can you do?Report

    1. Umm strict ethics rules for everybody. Maybe the FBI should investigate that hunter guy. Sure seems like he’s a bit shady. Have all prez candidates fully release all their info. Make them divest all their holdings at least into blind trusts if not completely.

      Really seems like i got some ideas. Ideas which NOBODY has ever thought of before thank you very much.

      Fwiw…..Sure seems like hunter traded on his name for deals. I AM THE FIRST LIBERAL to every claim this. So i’m in the vanguard again. All you slackers need to try to catch up to me. The FBI really should investigate him, it’s a scandal they haven’t.Report

        1. YES. So lets make a lot of things illegals. Make the supremes abide by the Fed Judge Ethics rules. They all had to at one point. Change the laws to make any shady crap done by the bidens and any other pol illegal.Report

        1. So you agree that the claims of corruption are not legit.

          Do you think we should take GOP leaders seriously with regards to their concerns about corruption? Please consider all data points.Report

  4. The four types of corruption discussions:

    1. When you are clean but your opponent is dirty;
    2. When you are dirty, but your opponent is dirtier;
    3. When you are dirty, but your opponent is cleaner;
    4.When you are dirty but your opponent is clean;

    If you are either 1 or 2, you do what Biden is doing;

    When you are 3 or 4, you do what the Trumpists are doing, which is to throw clouds of dust in the air and shout that everyone is dirty, the whole system is dirty, it always has been so whachagonnadoo and it really doesn’t matter anyway.Report

    1. We can’t solve political corruption, says the only nation who doesn’t have strict rules and laws resulting in regular indictments and successful prosecution as.

      Where have I heard that before?Report

  5. So the finale to this damp squid is that the lead R ,Comer, can’t find his informant. Which is a problem given their evidence was already circumstantial. D’oh and double D’oh.Report

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