Aaron Rodgers Gets Tangled In Self-Weaved Web Of Deceit
See, the real problem with the Aaron Rodgers situation is no one reads their Sir Walter Scott poetry anymore.
See, if they did, the madcap insanity of Lord Marmion trying to get his swerve on with Clara Clare along with a delinquent nun named Constance De Beverley could have served as a tale of warning over this current situation. If you have no idea what that sentence is about, don’t feel bad; few folks do. Including me. I Googled it. Because the reason folks ought to know that particular work, properly titled Marmion: A Tale of Flodden Field is a quote you do know, often misattributed to the Bard:
“Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive”
Sally Jenkins has words for Green Bay Packer Quarterback Aaron Rogers on that subject, and they are not of the “soft-speech” variety the QB is famous for.
Jenkins in The Washington Post:
That human smoothie Aaron Rodgers could have just owned it. Everyone should respect his decision to try homeopathy over a coronavirus vaccine. No one can respect him for being deceitful about it. The great leadership researcher Brene Brown has said, quoting from a 12-step meeting, “Candor is kind.” Its opposite, indirectness, is not kind. It’s devious.
Good luck to Rodgers rolling this one back. He will now be known as a guy who is slicker than his TV hair, who thought he was unique, too much so to follow rules, and more precious than anyone in the room. May he make a speedy return to the Green Bay Packers with no symptoms, but as for sympathy, that should be diverted to people who shared spaces with him when he was unmasked, who now have to sit around and wonder whether they brought something home because he was too coy with the coronavirus.
Lord knows Rodgers is inventive with the football, but of all the dodging, narcissistic, contrived moves. “Yeah, I’m immunized,” he said, so artificially, when asked in the preseason whether he was vaccinated. That was a lie by omission. And not just a single lie but a daily willful deception along with a weirdly callous charade. On multiple occasions he went into postgame news conferences — which tend to be closely packed, fetid affairs — unmasked. And there should be some queries about the steam and sauna and rehab rooms, too.
Aaron Rodgers tests positive for coronavirus, is considered unvaccinated under NFL rules
Obviously, it’s Rodgers’s choice whether to get vaxxed, and there are plenty of defensible reasons not to — and he should be able to hold his beliefs without being publicly demeaned. But what Rodgers did was demeaning to others. He also had a choice about whether to be forthright about his status or be duplicitous. He chose the second option and apparently went around unmasked to make it convincing. Rodgers betrayed another belief with those actions — or, rather, a lack of belief. He does not believe that we all have to share some sacrifices in getting through this wretched minor-keys measure of history. Only you do. Not him. Your pandemic is not his concern. He is indifferent to it.
A word about Rodgers’s right to his own body. Athletes work their hearts out to attain a physical sensitivity the rest of us generally fail to comprehend, and they are commodified and used to an extent we fail to comprehend, too, and they rightfully believe their limbs are not our property, yours or mine. Rodgers is smart if he questions or even distrusts conventional NFL-issued medical treatment and advice, which has wrecked whole generations of men. And let’s be honest, it’s a fact that at least some of the NFL’s well-intentioned protocols are what Harvard public health expert Joseph Allen has called “hygiene theater.” The jury is out, for instance, on plexiglass. But masking is indisputably the responsibility of anyone who declines a vaccine.
Rodgers is not entitled to freewheel on this matter. You want to go unvaxxed, you better profess it — and you better damn well be vigilant. He is a supposed leader, a player who takes up an ungodly amount of salary space on the roster, and he audibly sulked over the Packers’ decision to draft his possible successor Jordan Love. He has put his team in a terrible position, and now Love will get thrown in Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs, a two-time Super Bowl team, with little notice.
Rodgers’s soft-speech act is not softening. It actually has a hard superficiality that leaves people feeling deflected.
As our own beloved EiC Emeritus Burt Likko put it:
I do wrongful termination cases for a living. Given the facts of:
1. Employee assures employer he’s “immunized;”
2. Turns out, employee took homeopathics but was never vaccinated; and
3. Employer fires employee…I would prefer to represent the employer.
Get well soon, Aaron.
— Burt Likko (@burtlikko) November 3, 2021
As many others have pointed out, there is another issue involved here: why are we just now finding out about Aaron Rodgers’ vaccination status? That’s a two-fold answer. The first is Aaron Rodgers’ design for it to be so and his long history of manipulating the media coverage that surrounds him. The second part, and the part that enables the first, is sports media is utterly dependent on access journalism these days to stay ahead of the constant news cycles and the insatiable desire of fans to have “insider” information. The problem with the model is the journalists have to balance being an insider with publishing or releasing information that would anger the subject they are so close to, thus killing not only access to the source but also their ability to work and be relevant.
So this particular tale starts with a superstar who is well-known to be a different personality to start with, mix in over a decade of being famous, fold in his ability to manipulate media, and garnish with that same media being scared to death of angering him, and you get this hot mess right here.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. Aaron Rodgers should have ran one of his meme-worthy discount double checks past this crackpot idea ahead of time. As it is, enjoy your web, Aaron; it is just how you designed it to be.
Contra Burt’s hypothetical, everything I have read suggests that the Packers organization was fully aware of his status. And that out of sight of public and press — which is where the NFL protocols apply — they and Rodgers were fully compliant. More of a case of their future Hall of Fame quarterback wanted to deceive the public, and the employer went along.Report
Don’t the NFL protocols require vaccination? Either way if what you say is right, then the organization gets some shame too. And as you and most of the rest of the commentaries here all know, I’m a massive GB fan and a Rodgers fanboy.
But this time, you done messed up, A-Aron!Report
No.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/latest-nfl-rules-covid-fan-vaccinations-and-positive-casesReport
In particular, post-game press conferences don’t count as meetings at team locations. Other unvaccinated players have appeared at those without a mask and not been disciplined.Report
I don’t know about anyone else but I find this just hilarious. I’m sure Shailene has him on the crunchiest regimen possible. Nothing beats covid like having your aura in tune with the universe. He just forgot the only time it doesn’t work is when Scorpio is rising.Report
And for the record the Redskins crushed Green Bay in the game pictured. I recall it specifically because I watched it in my favorite local pizza joint while my at the time 1 year old son cheered every time they rang the bell for an order coming out.Report
One of my former bosses, now deceased, made his biggest splash in the legal profession in a case called U.S. v. Bronston. Bronston was prosecuted for perjury in grand jury testimony and convicted. The somewhat simplified testimony was as follows:
Prosecutor: Do you have any Swiss bank accounts? [Note–he did]
Bronston: My companies do. [Note–this is true, his companies did, but so did he]
Prosecutor: [Moving on to another topic…]
Eventually, the feds found out he did have personal Swiss bank accounts. He was indicted for perjury and convicted. It was perfectly clear that his answer was unresponsive to the question and intended to deceive and this was thought to be enough.
The case went all the way to the Supreme Court, which held that a literally true statement, facially unresponsive to the question asked, cannot be perjury even assuming that the answer was intended to deceive. Precisely because the answer was facially unresponsive, it was on the prosecutor to follow up and ask: “Mr. Bronston, do you, personally, have any Swiss bank accounts? Not your companies. You.” Bronston probably would have lied because that was the kind of guy he was, and a perjury prosecution and conviction would have been righteous.
I bring this up because I couldn’t help wondering whether Rodgers’s answer, if given under oath, would be perjurious or whether it would have been subject to a Bronston defense.Report
I always thought one problem with cases involving lawyers (that is where lawyers are defendants or otherwise not in their usual role of “at work”) is that, well, you’re running a risk of “Letter of the question, not the spirit” sort of answers.
Bill Clinton, rather famously, did this. Worse yet, the prosecutor had previously nailed down the definition of ‘sexual intercourse’ and it didn’t include oral, so he wasn’t even being that clever.
In short, I always thought word games and lawyers went hand-in-hand when it came to questioning people under oath.Report
As Kinky Friedman once said: “Eating ain’t cheating.” I’m sure it wasn’t original with him and that Bill Clinton was familiar with the concept.Report
Once again we have a “Do as I say not as I do” situation with a famous person who thinks deception in service of a media image is the way to go. I shall begin popping popcorn and begin waiting for the Conservative Rage Machine run by the Party of Personal Responsibility to tear into him for this assault on the truth . . . .Report
“The second part, and the part that enables the first, is sports media is utterly dependent on access journalism these days to stay ahead of the constant news cycles and the insatiable desire of fans to have “insider” information.”
I think this is slightly inaccurate, as NFL teams were barred from discussing player vaccination status. The team couldn’t make it known. Most players who are known to be unvaccinated are in that boat for one (or more) of three reasons:
1.) They’ve made it known themselves.
2.) They’ve been observed following the protocols specified for unvaccinated players.
3.) Their interactions with the Covid Protocol (or whatever it is called when someone is positive or exposed) align with the rules for unvaccinated players, which are different than vaccinated players.
All that said, I think this confirms what I suspected for a while: Rodgers is just sort of an ass. Because he’s good with a football and can charm on camera, he got away with it. I was actually really put off by his press conference where he flogged his front office after they caved to him. Just seems like a selfish, me-first dude who gets whiney when he doesn’t get his way. This only only cements that notion in my head now.Report
Yeah, I think this is right. And I think this is probably a situation where HIPAA applies and teams cannot disclose individual vaccine status. Players have been asked their vaccine status by reporters and refused citing their HIPAA rights, which is not a correct application of HIPAA law. But they don’t have to answer that question if they don’t want to anyway.Report
Once a player has to sit out a game for health reasons, the team has to release the information. That’s been part of the standard NFL deal between the team owners, and between the league and the players’ association, ever since gambling on the games became big business.Report
Yes but they can simply say he is out due to Covid. Per the agreement with the CBA, the team cannot say whether or not a player is vaccinated.Report
To elaborate, if a player is out with a bum ankle, they report he is out with a bum ankle.
If a player is out due to Covid, they report he is out due to Covid. Even vaccinated players who test positive will miss time, so reporting that someone is out due to Covid does not reveal that player’s vaccination status.
However, observing how a player’s absence due to Covid evolves can indicate what is going on. For instance, in this case, his positive case was reported on Tuesday or Wednesday and he was immediately ruled out for Sunday’s game. That wouldn’t happen with a vaccinated player because vaccinated players can return to action if they have no symptoms and two negative tests more than 24 hours apart. If Rodgers were vaccinated, there’d be the potential for him to play on Sunday. But the team indicated he’d be out for an extended period (the league requires a minimum of 10 days for vaccinated players). So folks just did the math and figured out that he must be unvaccinated. From there, I think his previous statements and other sources corroborated that.
Lamar Jackson is suspected of being unvaccinated due to his various run-ins with the Covid protocol. I don’t believe it is known for certain but basically he would not have found himself in the situations he has (I believe needing to isolate over the summer, but don’t quote me on that) if he was vaccinated
Other players, like Cole Beasley of the Bills, have been very up front about their decision not to get vaccinated.
So, teams can simultaneously note that a player is out due to Covid, not directly reveal their vaccination status (which they are prohibited from doing), but it can still become obvious what a player’s vaccination status is very likely to be as a result.
All that said, the Packers may face penalties because reporting indicates they knew exactly what Rodgers’ status was and still allowed him to break protocol (namely, attending in-person press conferences unmasked). So, this situation is a combination of Rodgers’ being publicly deceptive and his team participating in that. Repercussions may be severe.
But, ya know, he insists the organization treats him unfairly. [eyeroll]Report
At least as I understand it — quite possibly in error — they have to say that he’s in isolation for at least ten days, not allowed to travel, nor into the team facilities. There’s only one thing that would trigger that. And they’re not allowed to lie the way the NHL does, where “lower leg injury” covers everything from an ankle sprain to multiple shattered bones.Report
They might have to say that. I don’t know that level of specifics.
But if a reporter says, “Is player X vaccinated?” or “Which players are vaccinated?” no one from the team can answer that questions. Further, a coach can’t go out there and say, “We got all our QBs vaxxed so we’ll avoid what happened to the Broncos last year.”
Here’s a helpful primer ESPN put together: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32545222/aaron-rodgers-tests-positive-covid-19-rules-unvaccinated-nfl-players-packers-qb-return-more
I think a few things contributed to the Packers’ handling of this:
1.) Again, they apparently knew with certainty exactly what Rodgers’ vaccination status was.
2.) They were barred from discussing it publicly.
3.) They participated in his deceit to appease him amidst a very rocky relationship.
4.) They’re probably hiding behind the restriction on discussing vaccination status as to why they didn’t make it known that he was unvaccinated despite him acting like he was vaccinated.
I think they’ll eventually be outed. Then again, as the NFL has demonstrated repeatedly, they’re happy to sweep things under the rug if they think it advantageous “for the Shield.”Report
Yep, absolutely. Rodgers wished to deceive the public, the team ownership (and teammates, probably) assisted him, and the rules provided overall cover.Report
But your link indicates that teams have been sanctioned for violating the COVID protocols: “Among the teams fined were the New Orleans Saints ($500,000), Las Vegas Raiders ($500,000), Tennessee Titans ($350,000), New England Patriots ($350,000) and Baltimore Ravens ($250,000). The Saints were also stripped of a seventh-round draft pick, and the Raiders lost a sixth-rounder.”
I don’t know how this compares with any of those situations, but I’d be surprised if a penalty would not apply. If the team was actively covering-up in activity that poses a risk to teammates, staff, opposing players, and officials, I would think loss of a draft pick would be in order.Report
On non-Covid related matters (e.g., Ray Rice, concussion issues, the Washington Football Team investigation), the NFL has often tried to hide things until forced to engage with them publicly.
I agree that they likely will be penalized, for the reasons you offer. I just don’t put ANYTHING past the league at this point and never trust them to do the right thing.
Interestingly, one reason the Broncos were forced to play without a QB while other teams had games postponed as they dealt with Covid issues was because the Broncos tried to game the system by taking off their tracking bracelets and make it look like they were distanced when they weren’t. At the time, THIS was kept private and it left everyone wondering why the league seemed to be over-penalizing the Broncos.
So, weirdly, even when the NFL gets it right (the Broncos didn’t deserve leniency) they still seem to handle it poorly. Reporting on the real reason didn’t come out until this year.
Go figure.Report
I’m mostly familiar with MLB, and I don’t think they disclose health information without a waiver, but these issues might be primarily mediated by their respective collective bargaining agreement, which might constitute waiver and its own process.
Last season baseball players would disappear off the active roster without explanation and replaced by another player. They were not on the injured list, so everyone assumed they were on the COVID list. Eventually reporting confirmed that people who tested positive for COVID or had to isolate because of close personal contacts were not available to get their consent; they had been told to go away.
In any event, I think there were two possible explanations: (1) in order for a team to place a player on the injured list, there has to a supporting medical opinion shared it with MLB and with the player (who has some rights to challenge). The normal process of getting the various signatures was delayed by quarantine/isolation. (2) The collective bargaining agreement addresses HIPAA issues, but COVID issues were not subject to normal collective bargaining so they were reverted to needing player signatures to share.Report
Rodgers had a choice. He still does. This is no different for a top-tier NFL quarterback than it is for you and I or any other mere mortal. The choice is “get vaccinated, or don’t get vaccinated.” Of course that’s a choice.
As I’ve written elsewhere on these pages, it’s a clean-the-toilets-or-eat-ice-cream kind of choice, and I see no particular reason to refrain from questioning the wisdom of someone who not only appears to insist upon the toilet but went out of his way to make people think he had chosen ice cream. It’s also potentially illuminating to muse on why he would have done that.Report
I read today that Rodgers has taken the “FU” position. That is, he says he has followed all of the NFL protocol for unvaccinated players to the letter: daily tests, masking, restricted access to sauna or other treatments, etc. The only exception is post-game press conferences, and other unvaccinated players have done those unmasked without being disciplined. Whether he is vaccinated or not is none of our business, nor the sports books who might want to adjust their odds a bit if they knew the GB quarterback was subject to minimum 10-day quarantines if he tested positive.Report
He also blamed wokeness and claimed he’s being cancelled.
Joe Rogan was one of his medical advisors.
Masks are meant to shame.
And he quoted MLK.
He is undoubtedly a real f’in a-hole.Report
Better cancel him!
I understand that he’s worse than Rothsles, erm… Rothlesb…,
I understand that he’s worse than Cutler.Report
Can’t cancel the best show on Earth.
But heck I even liked Cutler. Bummed a smoke off him once.Report
Yes. Calling someone an a-hole is equivalent to wanting them “cancelled.”
Rodgers should stay away from the team as dictated by the League’s Covid protocols. He and the team should be subject to whatever penalties exist for violating protocols. And then he should return to the field.Report
Yes. Calling someone an a-hole is equivalent to wanting them “cancelled.”
Only to snowflakes. Or is calling snowflakes snowflakes “cancelling” them?Report
Imagine talking to a Hong Kong democracy activist, or Russian journalist, and trying to explain “cancelling” to them.Report
“Oh, you mean like Struggle Sessions?”Report
Imagine speaking to someone who actually lived through the Cultural Revolution, and thinking they would find that comment amusing.Report
He’s worse than Tebow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_VM9RyvLtU&t=2s
(I hate to link to Stephen A. Smith, but Tim is making good sense here.)Report
I kinda think that he ought to be suspended until he gets the shot.
If he gets a positive test then everybody he’s played or practiced with in the last 4 days are going to be benched until the virus has aged long enough for it to be testable in their systems and, god forbid, if one of them tests positive, it’ll be on his head.
The second half of that is the moral argument but the *REAL* reason is the first half: It will cost the league money.Report
Why do you wanna cancel him?Report
Patriarchy.Report
The NFL has a protocol for the unvaccinated: frequent testing, and a longer quarantine after a positive test than the vaccinated get. That’s what Rodgers is under. He didn’t lie to the NFL, just to the rest of us.Report
Don’t let facts get in the way of whatever Jaybird’s point might be.Report
I was making a funny.Report
What, exactly, was the joke in here:
“I kinda think that he ought to be suspended until he gets the shot.
If he gets a positive test then everybody he’s played or practiced with in the last 4 days are going to be benched until the virus has aged long enough for it to be testable in their systems and, god forbid, if one of them tests positive, it’ll be on his head.
The second half of that is the moral argument but the *REAL* reason is the first half: It will cost the league money.”Report
Not being able to spell Rastaburger’s name was the joke.
As for the thing you quoted, the wry/cynical joke is that the NFL won’t do the right thing because it’s the right thing, they’ll do the right thing because of Money, Money, and Money.Report
What do you think the “right thing” would be?Report
I kind of wonder if there isn’t some self-sabotage going on given the off-season drama between him and the organization. Like, he can’t force them to trade him but he can sure raise the odds of the combination of on field and off field disaster this might be. Of course its also been clear for a while that he is a weird dude.Report
Rodgers is VERY calculating. Everything he does publicly is for a reason.
It’s possible he’s gone off his rocker but odds are he’s got some sort of plan here. May not be a good plan but this likely wasn’t an unhinged semi-rant but a play at… something.Report
“Yeah, I’m immunized,” he said, so artificially, when asked in the preseason whether he was vaccinated. That was a lie by omission.
By commission. Whatever homeopathic practices he did, they weren’t an immunization.Report