Dune: What I’d Wanted For Almost 35 Years, Finally Here
There is a scene in Dune, early on, where I realized that the movie was going to live up to the hype. For those of you know, it’s the Gom Jabbar scene. I won’t spoil it for those who don’t know. But, at one moment, Paul stops crying out and locks eyes with the Reverend Mother. The music comes up. Dazzling images and tantalizing flash forwards alternate with Paul’s stoic face and his mother trying to calm her fear. All of it lit with scalpel-like precision to draw our attention to facial expressions, clenched hands and the power dynamics of how the actors are positioned. The tension builds and builds until finally being released. And then, in the ensuing calm, we find out a little bit of what this story is really all about.
This was what I’d wanted for almost 35 years.
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Frank Herbert’s novel has been frequently proclaimed as “unfilmable”. There is some validity in this accusation. The novel itself is extremely complex, with much of its early chapters devoted simply to world-building. It deals with thousand-year struggles, destiny, psychic powers and religion. It takes familiar myth-arcs and bends them to serve a narrative that is concerned, first and foremost, with ecology. It turns narratives about declining empires on their head — it was partially inspired as a response to Asimov’s Foundation Series1. And while the plot turns on battles and fights, it is ultimately decided by political strategy and superhuman abilities that transcend space and time.
Nevertheless, there have been attempts. In the 1970s, Alejandro Jodorowsky got to the casting stage on a planned 10-hour epic before the funding dried up. In 1984, David Lynch finally brought the story to the screen (complete with pamphlets explaining aspects of the movie that were handed out in theaters). But Lynch disowned it and the film flopped critically and financially. In 2000, the Sci-Fi channel produced a three-part, six-hour series. This was better received, becoming Sci-Fi’s highest rated showing, earning some awards and spawning a sequel Children of Dune. But it never resonated in the public consciousness the way fans hoped it would.
When it was announced that Denis Villeneuve, maker of the critically acclaimed Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 was taking his shot at it, hopes were high. Perhaps Villeneuve had the right visual sense to make Dune work, not just as a good movie or TV series, but as the jaw-dropping epic it has long deserved to be.
Villeneuve made all the right noises about the scope and depth of the material. He drew together a cast that made fans hopeful. Hans Zimmer, a fan of the novel, eschewed other projects to devote himself to scoring the film. Epic trailers made fans hope. Early reviews were strong. And now the film is here.
And as someone who has been waiting for this a long time, I can say… Dune delivers.
The plot of Dune goeth thusly: many thousands of years in the future2, the universe is controlled by an Emperor and many great royal houses. This universe depends on the spice mélange, a substance that extends life, expands consciousness and allows navigators to break the light barrier. And it is only found on one planet: the desert world of Arrakis. House Harkonnen has run Arrakis for centuries, but their management is failing due to unrest with the native Fremen. Their rival, House Atreides, is tasked by the Emperor to bring peace to Arrakis and make sure the spice flows. But Duke Leto Atreides suspects a trap.
But to tell the plot is to miss the point. These seemingly simple feudal rivalries take place in an Empire beset by political intrigue not only from the great houses but from various orders of humans with exquisite mental and physical training. These orders have brought human abilities to unprecedented heights and there are prophecies that this will produce a super-being. It’s often unclear who’s on whose side or whose agenda is being pursued and why. And the hero, Paul Atreides, must navigate the thin line between salvation and catastrophe.
Maybe you can begin to see why people call this unfilmable.
The Lynch movie was my first exposure to Dune. Actually, no. My first exposure was the so-called “Alan Smithee” cut, which adds almost an hour of additional material, including an introductory voice-over that provides some much-needed exposition to set the stage. As I noted, Dune flopped on release, with critics deriding it as an incomprehensible mess. It made several “worst of the year” lists and many still regard it as a colossal failure.3
My opinion is much higher. While I can see the film’s flaws, I also see its strengths. The set design, costumes and score are good. The casting and acting are all top-notch. It incorporates many of Herbert’s themes and ideas, particularly the idea of winning battles through strategy, enhanced human abilities and political acumen. It tries, and mostly succeeds, in having an epic scope. And it makes the planet Arrakis feel like a real place, not just a plot device.
The Lynch/Smithee version is far from perfect. But when it works, it towers. It has a scale and a grandeur seen in few science fiction films. It was enough to make me watch it over and over again. And it was enough to make me read the books.
“World-building” has become a rage these days. With a culture now filled to the rafters with science fiction, fantasy, action and comic book universes that are the intersection of all three, one of the things that even general audiences look for is a universe that has put in the work. It was Neal Stephenson, himself a builder of intricate worlds, that first brought my attention to this during the Star Wars prequel trilogy. You could watch the movies as they were. But if you wanted the real experience, you needed to see the TV shows and read the books and play the video games that really fleshed out the universe and gave it depth and weight. If you just watched the movies, General Grievous was a cool cyborg who fought with four lightsabers. But if you’d watched the TV shows, you’d know he was the much-feared leader of the Separatists whose coming had been foreshadowed for a long time and whose appearance had not disappointed. A perfect intersection of these two was Grievous’ coughing: a quirky touch for the casual viewer, a nod to the devoted that Obi-Wan had force crushed his chest plate during a fight on Coruscant.
Adaptations of beloved novels straddle this line the same way. A particular comparison for Dune that has leapt to many minds is The Lord of the Rings. Like LOTR, Dune faces the challenge of bringing a story set in a vast, meticulously crafted universe to the screen. And it uses many of the same techniques to get there.
Language, for example, can be a touchstone of a larger world. Just as hearing a few words in Elvish made the LOTR universe feel bigger and more complex; so too does hearing the guttural Sarduakar and secret Atreides languages make the Dune universe seem bigger and more complete.
Much was cut from the narrative to cram the first half of the novel into one film. The Harkonnens are barely in the movie and a critical character is not present at all. The Emperor is offscreen after being very much on-screen during the first two adaptations. Nothing is said of the absence of robots and computers being the result of an ancient jihad against thinking machines. And the schools of mental training that arose to replace computers are only hinted at.
But, like LOTR, these things are acknowledged in little touches. Thufir Hawat’s lips and the way his eyes roll into his head when he’s calculating. Wellington Yueh’s forehead mark. The few references to the off-screen emperor. These are just little details to the casual viewer; they speak volumes to the devotee.
And much is said without being said. Gestures, looks, tiny snippets of dialogue and shot selection advance the narrative just as much as dialogue, action and explosions. One scene in particular embodies this: Paul and Jessica are brought to a research station — a vast cavernous building that was meant to collect water and revitalize Arrakis, at least before the spice was found. It stands empty and we contemplate this vast unused facility while unnamed Fremen make a tea by purifying their saliva in a small brewing apparatus. So much said; so little dialogue.
The Dune books are so deep in world-building that you really need more like three movies to get into it. Villeneuve has said that there will not be extended cut of Dune, that what we see is what he wanted to make. But his denials notwithstanding, an extended cut would not surprise me. There is so much to the Dune universe, you could easily add another hour to what already exists.
The TV version of Dune is, by necessity, smaller in scope. It never gives one the feel of being at the center of a galaxy-spanning epic. The effects often look cheap, and the sets suggest a small studio, not a galaxy-spanning empire. And while most of the actors are good, they give the kind of workmanlike performances you might expect in…well, a TV series, not an epic tale of empires and messiahs.4
However, what it lacks in grandeur, it makes up for in detail. The Harkonnens are given a far better treatment, shown as not just evil but intelligent and deadly. The court intrigues and mysticism take center stage. The series takes Irulan from a tiny role to a major player, our guide through the turbulent political waters. Fremen culture is fleshed out in far better detail. The story, given six hours, is allowed to sprawl.
It wasn’t quite the Dune adaptation I wanted. But it was good. And, when I’m in a Dune mood, either this or the Smithee version will do. But, like the Smithee version, the Sci-Fi series did not quite sate the appetite.
Villeneuve’s film is much more a spiritual heir to the Lynch version than it is to the Sci-Fi version. It favors scale and grandeur over narrative. And in this, it does not fail. Every scene feels big, every set feels epic. The initial flyover of Arakeen — the capital of Arrakis — show a city far less-confined than its predecessors, one that sprawls over mountains and through valleys, that has sub-cities and neighborhoods. As with the Lynch version, Arrakis feels like a real place with a history and an ecology.
The cast is also up to the standards of the Lynch film. Ferguson, Isaac, Brolin, Skarsgard, Bautista and Henderson all excel as if born for their roles. I was pleasantly surprised at how good Jason Mamoa was, bringing a swagger and gravitas to Duncan Idaho that previous films had missed. The role of Dr. Liet-Kynes was recast from a white man to a black woman, and it doesn’t matter at all because Sharon Duncan-Brewster absolutely nails it.
This shouldn’t be a surprise. Good acting and good directing of actors has been a hallmark of Villeneuve films that gets missed with his visual flare and style. But for a film that depends so heavily on character, it is welcome. And it bodes well for the second, yet-to-be-greenlighted film that will depend even more on character.
Ah yes… and now we finally get to the worst part of the movie. The absolute worst part, the fly in the ointment, the turd in the water pipe… is that we will now have to wait at least two, possibly three years for the second part. We will have to wait to see if Villeneuve can stick the landing with the trickier second half of the book, that depends on both continuing to build the world and setting things in motion toward the inevitable apocalyptic conclusion.
Right now, there is no official word, but the strong box office numbers and hefty HBO Max streaming are good signs. Warner Brothers CEO Ann Sarnoff has come as close as possible to confirming the sequel without actually doing so. But the pandemic still looms over everything (the film was shot in 2019 before the pandemic started). The delay is not completely unacceptable — multiple years pass in the novel between the beginning and end. Hopefully we’ll get an official word soon.
But come what may, Dune Part 1 is the best adaptation we’ve seen so far and a damned good movie in its own right. And if you are vaccinated and feel safe going to a theater, it’s definitely something you want to see on the big screen. Because even those few who have derided the movie have admitted that the visuals, the music, the sound design and the feel of this film are overwhelming. As Peter Suderman wrote, this is a science fiction film for people who love science fiction. But I would add that it’s a science fiction film for people who just love movies.
- Which is, coincidentally, also getting a visual treatment right now on Apple TV. It has been somewhat tepidly received.
- The movie gives a date of 10191, but, in something only fans would know, that’s dated from the Butlerian Jihad against thinking machines, not from the birth of Christ.
- Herbert himself was apparently pleased with it.
- William Hurt, as Duke Leto Atreides, is particularly bad.
I’m glad you enjoyed it. I liked it quite a bit, but have not read the books or seen the other adaptations, so I probably was just watching it as someone who loves movies. I figure the Dune fanatics probably will like it though.Report
I admit to having been nervous about it… but 90% of the reviews I’ve seen make me think that I have room to be *LESS* nervous.Report
I was looking forward to it until I saw a review saying Villeneuve adapted the original material as well as Peter Jackson.Report
Villeneuve was one of the reasons I was put at ease. You know the Interlinked scene?
When I remembered that scene, I knew that the test of humanity would be okay.Report
I saw it Friday in the theater and loved it.Report
As soon as I have a few hours free, I will be watching itReport
Watched it, gotta say, I found the score much better that the David Lynch movie (and that score was damned impressive), and I was not bothered at all by the slower pace. I hope they keep this up with part 2 (and there had better be a part 2).
I thought the baron was much better done, as were the Mentats. I especially enjoyed the brief glimpse at the Sardukar (evokes thoughts of Warhammer 40K imperial marines) and the languages and signing.
When it comes to set design, they got the ornithopters exactly right, and they did a much better job with the hunter seeker drone. ETA: The guild highliners, also much better. I don’t know if anyone noticed it, but highliners didn’t carry ships, they created portals from one point to another., and you flew through the highliner and through the portal in it.
Very much impressed, eager to see more, and I may watch this again, just because I know I missed details.Report
The score was really awesome. But, assuming a sequel, is it wrong that I hope they convince Hans Zimmer to incorporate an electric guitar when Paul rides the sandworm?Report
No, not at all. Honestly, it should be required. We should start a petition on Change.org to make sure it happens.Report
The basic concept is interesting and something I’ve seen in other worlds.
Humanity develops the ability to make artificial life (electronic life, mechanical life, or computer life).
One of the first things artificial life realizes is it would be better off if it’s creator didn’t exist. War, slave rebellion, or whatever breaks out.
This story comes long after that has been resolved, but there are things you just don’t do.Report
Yep. AI enslaved an oppressed humanity. A galaxy-wide jihad was waged that was the foundation of the empire. And any power that develops thinking machines will have instant war waged upon it. But it’s taken in an interesting direction because humans have to fill in the gap left by computers.Report
Much much worse than”instant war”. The level of ethics is zero. They are in a bitter war where its serious and personal.
No one is using AI because its a really bad idea. Hitler in his bunker waiting for the Red Army wouldn’t do it.
If you make an AI you are making a superpowered God that wants to kill you. Skynet. Not only can you not do that but you can not even try to do anything slightly close to that because it might lead to that.Report
I very much enjoyed how they addressed this particular subject in the expanded Dune universe- that the hostile AI’s and the subsequent Jihad and prohibition was a historic distortion and that resolving it fixed a lot of their subsequent problems.Report
No one expects the Butlerian Jihad!Report
Amongst our weaponry…
I sometimes wonder if Herbert missed on his futurology thinking it would be based on religion, prophesy, messiahs and sex/eugenics.
Turns out, maybe the future he wanted to study was captured in the Butlerian Jihad.Report
The Butlerian Jihad was more like a pogrom against the Jews than it was anything else in our history. The prohibition against thinking machines is like the Islamic prohibition on charging interest — not actually about the thing in question but about the people who did it, and a thousand years later nobody really remembers (or wants to talk about) why it happened.Report
Hmmn, that’s not really how I remember it from the books. But possibly I have not fully considered it from the perspective of the thinking machines that were enslaving humanity.
I kid… since I really don’t remember the details… and didn’t his son write a series on this?Report
I can understand doing away with large scale AI. I can go along with the Spacing Guild high on spice finding their way from one star system to another through whatever sort of probabilistic quantum physics they were using. But I’ve always had problems with the various orbital mechanics that were being done without any of Guild members, mentats, or some sort of calculating machine.Report
If I recall, it wasn’t a ban on computers, but on thinking machines. Machines could calculate, they just couldn’t draw conclusions.Report
Almost all science fiction writers of that era completely missed where we very quickly went, with the non-AI but still ten billion transistors worth of processing power built into everything. Eg, in Heinlein’s Moon Is a Harsh Mistress when the massive mainframe Mike was cut off and the Bank of Hong Kong Luna used hundreds of clerks with abacuses to manually keep the equivalent of spreadsheets.
A spaceship the size of a Heighliner would have had tens/hundreds of thousands of processors running deterministic code just to keep it operating.
As you and I regularly argue (on the same side), Boeing’s refusal to admit that it’s a software company is likely to do it in before too many more years.Report
My favorite Heinlein blind spot was the nav computers in Starman Jones. Highly trained people had to translate decimal measurements for them, because computers do everything in binary.Report
We all miss things.
I’ve been reconstructing some of the software I wrote in 93-95 in order to access the multimedia-over-the-internet content I built then. One presentation from early in 1995 described the equipment I was using to do video capture and compression at the time. I completely missed not that processors would get faster and cheaper, but that outfits like the Raspberry Pi organization would find a way to sell me the processing and networking hardware and software, plus a camera, for $50 total. (More than that if I want to put it in a case.)Report
With the way things are going, Boeing isn’t the only company staring down that reality. Lots of places will have to either figure out how to write software successfully, or how to contract that work out. What scares me is hearing stories like what my neighbor told me yesterday (he works for a major cell carrier, think pink) that he is constantly telling software contractors that they have to comment code, and stop trying to be clever or cute with their algorithms. I think the world has at least 2 generations of software developers who have been trained to have bad habits, or who developed bad habits while being self-taught, and no one is forcing good habits on to them, because it stresses release dates.
Lazy software writing will do us in long before self-aware AI manages it.
As for Herbert/Heinlein and the authors of that generation, I think they all failed to recognize that AI != Self Aware, so they all jumped from computers being big calculators straight to computers being sentient electronic brains, without really groking the very large gradient in between.Report
NO ONE realized just how hard Self Awareness is or just how far away we are. I had grad classes in this back in the early 90’s and we didn’t understand it.Report
Which is why the leap from room sized computers to self aware machines is an odd leap to take. At least to me, in my hindsight. Perhaps to them it was absolutely as logical as FTL travel is SciFi writers.
BTW, I started watching Foundation on FruitTV. It has me intrigued. I never read the book, so I have no clue how well it sticks to the source.Report
That’s because in the time when they grew up, this is what computers looked like. A box the size of a tractor, with four different men operating it, continuously adjusting dials and reading off gauges and feeding in data from any number of separate reporting stations.
You’re wondering why Herbert didn’t think about microcomputers but “Dune” was written in 1965 and microprocessors weren’t really a big thing until ten years later; in fact they didn’t even exist when the book was written.
“A spaceship the size of a Heighliner would have had tens/hundreds of thousands of processors running deterministic code just to keep it operating.”
Really? Why? Sailing ship crews executed highly-complex operations to change tack and they didn’t even have electricity, let alone computers, and that’s the milieu that “Dune” is meant to reflect. You’re right that the novel doesn’t really go into the details of how starflight is achieved (or the mechanics of getting from space to surface) but that kind of autistically-hyperfocused attention to World Building wasn’t really a feature of SF until very recently.
And, as I said, it wasn’t the point. “Dune” is much more a progenitor of the Romantic Fantasy series than it is anything in SF; its descendants are things like Lackey’s Valdemar, or Anne McCaffery’s Talents series.Report
I saw it on Sunday. I found it slow and ponderous but it was nice visually. The actress playing Lady Jessica is only 28. Timothe Chalet is 25. I’m not sure Hollywood put much thought into this small age difference except not wanting to cast an actual middle-aged woman in her 50s.Report
Rebecca Ferguson is 38 not 28, so it’s pretty bad but not quite that bad. That said, going from the text, I think it’s a way weirder casting choice having the 25 year old play a 15 year old than to have a nearly 40 year old woman playing someone with a teenage son. That’s pretty normal for most of human history.
Edit to add, per wikipedia she had a son in 2007 which potentially makes him 14 now.Report
I think that’s because a 15 year old.can’t quite pull off the necessary gravitas.Report
Oh yea I totally get why they did it that way, not just in Dune but in a lot of movies and TV shows.Report
There are also a lot of annoying laws dealing with teen actors and they might not look quite as beautiful as people expect their movie stars to be.Report
Did you ever see The Manchurian Candidate? Angela Lansbury (37) plays Laurence Harvey’s (34) mother.Report
I enjoyed the move a lot and join the recommendation. Especially for the crowd here; I bet we have a very high percentage of Dune readers in our commentariat.
As some of you noticed on my Twitter feed, my sole complaint is that several aspects of this deep, complexworld universe are not explained. And I totally respect Villenueve’s insistence on “show, don’t tell” for as much as possible. Even if that means some things aren’t well-explained, like the Guild Navigators walking around in space suits and orange helmets — we’re never actually told those are Navigators (and they sure don’t look like the more true-to-the-book Navigators from the Lynch/Smithee version). But this, I think, is mostly okay.
But it was in the Gom Jabbar scene that I thought the adherence to “show, don’t tell” actually failed. I, along with everyone else who had read the book, knew who that old lady in the weird outfit was and what she was doing, but if you hadn’t read the book I have to think you’d have no way of knowing who or what the Bene Gesserit were or why they’d have sent one of their most senior leaders across the stars to torture and almost murder a beautiful, skinny boy. Or why said skinny boy’s mother was (unhappily) cooperating with it!Report
Read the book, or saw the David Lynch version, or the SciFi version… I mean, if you were really coming into it cold…Report
I had the same sense about the Tinker, Tailor movie. It has a very complex plot, with a lot of backstory and many subtleties, plus it’s set in a world of espionage quite different from most spy movies. I didn’t see how anyone who hadn’t read the book or seen the BBC version could keep up. But the movie did well, both critically and at the box office.Report
That’s actually very much the point of the whole scene in the book. You don’t know why it’s happening, who these people are, or anything when it happens in chapter 1 or whatever. Uncertainty and desire to know more is a pretty basic part of telling a story.
Now if you are saying it is uninteresting to someone who doesn’t know who these people are, we’ll that’s an j retesting thing to discuss.Report
That’s a fair cop. Since I saw it with my buddy who is even more of a sci-fi geek than me, and will see it again this weekend with a different sci-fi geek friend, it’s hard for me to know for sure.Report
Unfortunately Dune isn’t being streamed down here and the theatrical release was postponed until early December due to our COVID outbreak (Aucklanders can’t even go to the movies right now), so I’m going to have to wait another month or so before I can see it. Still, I’m glad to hear it landed well with a fan of the series.Report
I confess to having greatly enjoyed the Sci-Fi miniseries and for having enjoyed it for the detail and world building it explained. Accordingly I struggled with the film for the same reason- it eschewed a lot of the detail I really liked.
That said it was quite impressive and in artistry it was fabulous. The score was amazing. A few thoughts which include *SPOILERS*.
-The Atreides landing ships were quite cool. They didn’t seem practical in any way but they towered which made for impressive visual impacts when they took off from Caladan, when they landed on Arrakis and especially when they were dwarfed to motes by the Skyliners.
-The Skyliners themselves deserve a note. I, contra Oscar, didn’t think they merely opened portals but regardless of whether they did or not their looming presence was fabulous. When the Harkonen attack on Arrakis began, Guerney ran outside and then looked up to see that Skyliner looming in the sky like an ominous moon I felt every hair on my body stand on end. Fishing amazing!
-The Baron was well done. I especially liked his grim order to resume spice production immediately and his comment on how devastatingly expensive his sneak attack was.
-I really wish they could have made it more. But it’s already massive at its current run time and they still cut stuff to the bone. Still, I feel they could have cut out 20 minutes of their meditative desert sand takes and added in more exposition and detail.Report
The funny thing on your last bullet is I was so immersed I actually felt like I could have sat through an additional 30 minutes. The people I went with said the same. For as long as it was, I felt like it went by in a flash. I was much more fidgety waiting for the obligatory 27 minutes of previews to end.Report
I absolutely could have watched another half hour. Then again I was streaming from home so pausing and taking a bathroom break would be easy. Sitting in a theater with a bucket of coke zero though? Ooof!Report
There’s a shot, when the Duke is arriving in Arrakis space, of the High Liner. The shot starts with the Atreides ship breaking orbit over Caladan. Then the shot expands and you see the High Liner. It kinda looks like a squashed turbofan nacelle from a 737. It’s sitting in orbit over Arrakis, you are looking down the intake of the nacelle and you can see Caladan in the ‘hole’ of the intake.
So either a High Liner can exist at two points in space at once and create a bridge or fold between those two points, or two High Liners work together to create the bridge/fold.
Honestly, I can’t recall if that is how Herbert said it worked, or if he left that part to the readers imagination. It’s been a decade or so since I read Dune.Report
I don’t recall either. I always thought the Highliner was a mothership that took smaller ships on board and then itself folded through space from one location to the other.
That said I think you’re right- I rewatched the scene and I saw the same effect you did.
A quick reference to the Dune fan wikis says that Herbert was vague on the appearence and operation of these ships- just that they carried thousands of passengers and the global trade output of entire planets from one system to another. So based on that I’d say that both the traditional and the current versions of the ship are perfectly valid.
And I’ll re-state that their profile from the ground in the new film was pure magic.
*edit* huh and apparently it’s spelled Heighliner which is quite interesting in of itself.Report
Oh, yeah, that shot of the invasion was a fantastic way to establish the sheer scale of those monsters.Report
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Haven’t seen it yet, so not sure where Dune 1 cuts off… but boy are we going to be conflicted when the scrappy Paul Atreides unleashes Muad’Dib… FREEDOM!
Erm.Report
I wasn’t conflicted at all, I was horrified when I read it in the books and horrified when I saw it in the movie and the miniseries.Report
That’s what I’ll be looking for when I see it… how does it handle Paul, Maud’Dib, and the Preacher. And, well… you know.
I don’t really think Herbert handles that very well, tbh, the enormity of it all sort of made it impossible… too big to process.Report
It should be very interesting indeed. They tip their hand to that very question in this film actually and I think you might be pleased with it.Report
Cool, I’ll let you know after I see it. I’m not a big Chalamet booster, so I have concerns. I’m also curious about Mamoa as Duncan Idaho… I mean, we need Duncan to play (and play, and play).Report
For what it’s worth I was also skeptical of those casting choices. Maybe they benefited from my low-ish expectations but I actually thought Chalamet was quite believable in the role and Mamoa kicked ass with it. Brolin was perfect for Gurney which goes without saying but the real show stealer IMO was Rebecca Ferguson.
The only person I found to be kinda meh was Oscar Isaacs as Leto. Not bad, just underwhelming. This may be because I think one of the highlights of the Lynch version was casting Jurgen Prochnow. There’s something about that cool Teutonic stoicism that screams ‘I am at home in this high stakes, calculating universe.’Report
I thought Brolin was good as a Gurney, because he was a credible crusty veteran with a backstory with the Harkonnens.
What he wasn’t was the Gurney from the books, who’s a bon viviant troubadour who only gets mean and serious when it comes down to fighting. The fun guy that’s his original personality and the scared veteran that Harkonnen cruelty produced.Report
I think that was a choice made because of run time. Having a bon Vivant who could fight dirty would require developing that backstory, which would require run time. Easier to just pick one dimension to lose, even if flattens the character.Report
Momoa in particular is a problem for Future Filmmakers to solve, but an easily-foreseeable one.
Marvel Studios figured out the problem can be solved reasonably well with sufficiently strong contractual language, sufficiently pre-planned principal photography schedules, and most importantly, sufficient amounts of money.Report
Thank God.Report
Not a fan of whitewashing to appease China.
Either go the Hogan’s Heroes route, or keep the entire cast white.Report