The CDC and Misinformation Within The Parameters of Truth

Will Truman

Will Truman is the Editor-in-Chief of Ordinary Times. He is also on Twitter.

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  1. Oscar Gordon says:

    I think leaders buy too much into the myths of national unity during WW2, or the 1918 pandemic, when the reality was just as fractious as it is today. It catches them off guard, and they… well, the feck it up.Report

  2. Fantastic piece. I really appreciate you writing it.Report

  3. Doctor Jay says:

    I really liked this:

    I may be one of relatively few people whose view of people in general has actually gone up during this pandemic. If 24 months ago you would have told me that people would be willing to do what they have done over the past 18 months, I would not have believed it. While our political leaders have gravitated towards advocating licking doorknobs for fun and profit on one side and cancelling Halloween on the other, the people found their middle ground with very poor guidance.

    I agree.

    Your thesis that the CDC was communicating for the purpose of behavior seems accurate. I’m not sure it’s wrong, even given my agreement above. One of the key communication lessons I had to learn as a young person was there’s two sides to every communication, and if you want to be effective, you have to think both about what you want to say and how it’s going to be typically responded to.

    “I call ’em as I see ’em and let the chips fall where they may” is a thing some people do authentically. But the people who do that don’t often say that. Or maybe it’s that anyone who has a job/financial interest in communicating with the public is spreading BS if/when they say that. It’s like the “Washington outsider” pose that is so popular. Garbage.Report

    • Will Truman in reply to Doctor Jay says:

      I do get the problems with “let the chips fall where they may” but “We need to say A so that they will do B” assumes the ability to successfully control or predict what people will do. There are still some cases where I am sympathetic (“This will cause entirely unnecessary panic that otherwise won’t occur becuase there really is no underlying problem”)… but that list has grown a lot smaller and I think it has almost uniformly been a bad idea (or at least badly implemented) during Covid.Report

      • dhex in reply to Will Truman says:

        i am sympathetic – to a degree – regarding public health information and policy, because it is very difficult to get people in general to go along with things they should do versus what they want to do. there’s a paternalistic framework built into public health, because you are by design telling people how to live their lives. and it means working on a base assumption that people are not going to listen to you or do the right thing sans significant pressures; and if they do listen, they’ll lie about behavioral changes while not actually altering what they do.

        that said, the entirety of public health communications has not covered itself in glory in many places, particularly the loudest parts of the funnel. “trust the science” as a statement of faith works (for now) in large part because of the aggressive stupidity of trump overshadowing this mendacity along partisan alignments, because the alternative is being “like those people.”

        and nobody wants that. so slogans it is. yay.Report

  4. Jaybird says:

    It’s not that tricks that only work once should never be used.

    It’s that they shouldn’t be expected to work twice.Report

  5. DensityDuck says:

    The CDC understood that they were dealing with Americans, who have a national philosophy of “take everything and turn the knob up until it breaks off”. If they’d said “masks can help” then it wouldn’t have been heard as “stay home alone as often as possible, and if you go out stay away from people, certainly don’t hang out inside, and the mask will be a last line of defense”; it would have been “you’re good to do absolutely everything exactly like before, no changes, except you’ve got a little bandanna that you tug up over your mouth if someone is standing near you in the store, if you remember to do that, which you won’t”.

    Unfortunately, they forgot that this goes both ways, and that “masks don’t protect you” would be heard as “masks are COMPLETELY USELESS in ALL SITUATIONS and are NOT WORTH USING AT ALL”, and anything seen as backing-off or moderating would get a response of “but YOU SAID THEY DINT WORK”.

    What should the CDC have done? I dunno. Seems to me that the issue was less what the CDC did or didn’t say, and more what the whole rest of the government did; in the Executive Branch the plan was to go on TV not wearing a mask and mumble about how the Democrats made up the ‘rona to steal the election and the solution is to drink bleach, and in the Legislative Branch the reaction was to fight like heck to make sure that nobody got any kind of benefit payments or financial assistance or anything.Report

  6. Jaybird says:

    Going back and looking at what was said a year ago is a real eye-opener.

    Yikes!Report

    • Pinky in reply to Jaybird says:

      Half of that is bad headline writing, or more precisely the kind of generalizations that reporters make from nuanced work they don’t understand, but magnified in headline form. The rest of it is genuine lack of knowledge. I’m fine if the first thoughts of health experts were hand sanitizer and ventilators, because that was a good approximation based on available knowledge. I hate that people are throwing headlines like this one around as evidence that any recommendation shouldn’t be trusted.

      As for “less than 10%”, I’m fine with that too. The fact is we could have increased that percentage by packing more people together at football games and the like.

      A wolf attack is going to lose you some sheep. Some of those are going to be stupid, doorknob-licking types who wander into hazard, but some are going to be obedient but unlucky. The rest of the sheep are going to be more obedient next time. Great for sheep, but we’re humans, and I don’t like seeing the recklessness or the sheepy thinking. So in that sense I agree with this article.Report