Well, we had ours at the Air Force Academy Field House and there were all of these rules to get on the grounds of the Air Force Academy, rules for what kind of purses the ladies were allowed to bring, rules for what kind of items were allowed to be in the (transparent plastic!) purses (no food, no drinks except for sealed bottled water), and when we got in the building, they were selling concessions.
When I was a kid out in the sticks, my school had about 25ish kids in my grade. That's it. That was 3rd grade. 25 kids.
When I moved out to New York, my school had about 125 kids in each grade. Holy cow! By the time I got to high school, it had 500 students! I couldn't believe how big the school was. It had *WINGS*.
When I moved out to Colorado, Air Academy high had about 300 students in my grade. We had multiple buildings! You had to walk outside to get from class to class, sometimes! And I overheard one of the kids talking about one of the girls moving here from Texas and saying something to the effect of "wow, that must suck... moving from a high school with 6000 kids to this little dinky one".
There were about 300 kids, maybe a little more, there yesterday. AND THEY READ OFF EVERYBODY'S NAME.
I'm not suggesting you have an obligation to help me check with real white ethnics. Merely suggesting that your failure to provide information after telling me that I should find out from real ones tells me that your advice doesn't achieve usefulness.
But thank you for your advice anyway insofar as it continues to fail to falsify my hypothesis.
That's why I think that if your experience is significantly different to the point where you assume that I must not have spoken to any, that the information needs to come from you.
Ethnic Cleansing was the best play a few months ago, sure. Too many people are looking at their watches now, with much more modern and enlightened definitions of "fairness" than we had back in the days of the atom.
It has to do with the whole "let's say that I assume that CJ doesn't want to lie... and let's say that I assume that CJ doesn't want to agree with me... what positions might he take to maintain both of those?" and the one you've got is one that does that.
I'm trying to imagine mindsets that make your stated position likely.
Haaretz talked this morning about how Rubio "says U.S. troubled by Gaza humanitarian situation" to Netanyahu. A couple hours later, it talked about how Trump's meeting with Syria's new leader shows that Israel has lost clout.
If leftists are looking for stuff to say "see? It's okay to vote your conscience instead of voting for Kamala", Haaretz is giving it to them.
Do you mind if I interpret that as being an answer in the ballpark of "it's not that big of a deal anymore, certainly nowhere near as big a deal as the stories I heard in the 70s"?
"Ethnic Whites" is a term that was popular in the 70s.
It referred to Italians, Irish, so on. Distinct minority groups with a culture and religion of their own. (I mean, if your baseline is "WASP", that is.)
What are the freakin' rules, Saul? If murder is insufficient reason to deport an illegal immigrant, but saying that Jews aren't trustworthy is a reason to deny refugee status, I am unclear on the freakin' rules!
What are the rules we're using?
Because if you're trying to push some variant of "tragedy is when I cut my finger, comedy is when you fall down and open sewer and die", let me just say that:
You're goddamn right that I am a contrarian degenerate.
Any given special-interest group has concerns that are serious and legitimate and, unfortunately, sometimes they have concerns that are unserious and stupid.
I don't know which of these Ms. Free's are but if I wanted to pick a worse time to have a 61-year-old woman get rid of a 25-year-old firebrand, I'm not sure I could do a better job than when the 25-year-old firebrand was complaining about calcified power at the top.
AND I'M NOT EVEN SAYING DAVID HOGG WAS GOOD!!!
There are only a handful of reasons to know who a DNC vice-chair is and they are:
1. They do an exceptional job. Seriously out of this world.
2. They effed up so badly that it's fodder for late-night comedy show opening monologues.
3. They're publicity hounds that are more interested in going into self-promotion than in promoting the Democrats.
Two of those are bad!
BUT GETTING RID OF HIM BY PULLING A #2 IS BAD TOO!!! YOU'RE FIXING A MISTAKE BY MAKING A BIGGER MISTAKE!!! AAAAAAAAA
And, to be perfectly honest, removing Hogg from his seat not because "you can't sabotage Dems in good standing from your position of Vice-Chair, no matter how Righteously Angry you are... do it yourself, not as a DNC official" but because "you're male" is one of the things that does, in fact, matter for the Democrats in November 2026 (and 2028, and 2030, and so on).
There's a very particular reason that the Democrats have a lower approval rating than Trump and the stuff like this is why.
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Well, we had ours at the Air Force Academy Field House and there were all of these rules to get on the grounds of the Air Force Academy, rules for what kind of purses the ladies were allowed to bring, rules for what kind of items were allowed to be in the (transparent plastic!) purses (no food, no drinks except for sealed bottled water), and when we got in the building, they were selling concessions.
So I hope you can at least sneak in a sandwich.
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Oh... yeah. I can see that.
When I was a kid out in the sticks, my school had about 25ish kids in my grade. That's it. That was 3rd grade. 25 kids.
When I moved out to New York, my school had about 125 kids in each grade. Holy cow! By the time I got to high school, it had 500 students! I couldn't believe how big the school was. It had *WINGS*.
When I moved out to Colorado, Air Academy high had about 300 students in my grade. We had multiple buildings! You had to walk outside to get from class to class, sometimes! And I overheard one of the kids talking about one of the girls moving here from Texas and saying something to the effect of "wow, that must suck... moving from a high school with 6000 kids to this little dinky one".
There were about 300 kids, maybe a little more, there yesterday. AND THEY READ OFF EVERYBODY'S NAME.
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Wait, two graduation ceremonies in two days for the same person?
That's... I can't even imagine who would come up with that.
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I am a huge fan of Kipling, but, oh jeez... not "If". Not "If".
But I understand that it's not like they could read "The Gods of the Copybook Headings" to the kids in the current year.
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I'm not suggesting you have an obligation to help me check with real white ethnics. Merely suggesting that your failure to provide information after telling me that I should find out from real ones tells me that your advice doesn't achieve usefulness.
But thank you for your advice anyway insofar as it continues to fail to falsify my hypothesis.
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So you gave me an "ought" but you don't have an "ought" to address the "ought" that you dropped in my lap?
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The ones I have here mostly agree with me.
That's why I think that if your experience is significantly different to the point where you assume that I must not have spoken to any, that the information needs to come from you.
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Because your advice to me was to get this information from you directly.
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It's like cannibalism. It's always the savages in the next tribe over.
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Are you, CJ, still not “really” white yet back there in the tri-state area?
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Ethnic Cleansing was the best play a few months ago, sure. Too many people are looking at their watches now, with much more modern and enlightened definitions of "fairness" than we had back in the days of the atom.
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Are you one?
"
It has to do with the whole "let's say that I assume that CJ doesn't want to lie... and let's say that I assume that CJ doesn't want to agree with me... what positions might he take to maintain both of those?" and the one you've got is one that does that.
I'm trying to imagine mindsets that make your stated position likely.
"
Are WASPs a big deal down where you are?
"
Haaretz talked this morning about how Rubio "says U.S. troubled by Gaza humanitarian situation" to Netanyahu. A couple hours later, it talked about how Trump's meeting with Syria's new leader shows that Israel has lost clout.
If leftists are looking for stuff to say "see? It's okay to vote your conscience instead of voting for Kamala", Haaretz is giving it to them.
"
Do you mind if I interpret that as being an answer in the ballpark of "it's not that big of a deal anymore, certainly nowhere near as big a deal as the stories I heard in the 70s"?
Because that's how I'm interpreting it.
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Which is why I'm asking.
When I say "they aren't really a thing", I, of course, acknowledge that Episcopalians with nicknames like "Chaz" still exist.
I'm talking about as a cultural driving force.
But I'll ask again: Are you, CJ, still not “really” white yet back there in the tri-state area?
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And how does that play out in practice?
We can't get into the good Rod and Gun Club?
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They're not a thing out here on this side of the Mississippi.
Are you, CJ, still not "really" white yet back there in the tri-state area?
"
"Ethnic Whites" is a term that was popular in the 70s.
It referred to Italians, Irish, so on. Distinct minority groups with a culture and religion of their own. (I mean, if your baseline is "WASP", that is.)
WASPs aren't really a thing anymore.
Welcome to the club.
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Plus one of them is an outright anti-Semite of the most vile tropes of anti-Semitism.
I find it difficult to believe that the examples that you, yourself, gave to me are the "most vile tropes of anti-Semitism".
From what I've seen of anti-Semitism, they're somewhere in the middle of "prejudiced".
Maybe I've seen more than you have.
Which, lemme tell ya, would surprise me... but it's certainly in the realm of possibility.
"
What are the freakin' rules, Saul? If murder is insufficient reason to deport an illegal immigrant, but saying that Jews aren't trustworthy is a reason to deny refugee status, I am unclear on the freakin' rules!
What are the rules we're using?
Because if you're trying to push some variant of "tragedy is when I cut my finger, comedy is when you fall down and open sewer and die", let me just say that:
You're goddamn right that I am a contrarian degenerate.
"
Wait, are people with sufficiently offensive views not allowed to be refugees now?
This is a tool that I'm pretty sure that Trump and his ilk have been waiting for.
I'm sure that they'd say "thank you", if they knew you gift-wrapped it for them.
And look at your examples! Holy cow! Yeah, this would be amazing in the hands of someone sufficiently thin-skinned.
"
Any given special-interest group has concerns that are serious and legitimate and, unfortunately, sometimes they have concerns that are unserious and stupid.
I don't know which of these Ms. Free's are but if I wanted to pick a worse time to have a 61-year-old woman get rid of a 25-year-old firebrand, I'm not sure I could do a better job than when the 25-year-old firebrand was complaining about calcified power at the top.
AND I'M NOT EVEN SAYING DAVID HOGG WAS GOOD!!!
There are only a handful of reasons to know who a DNC vice-chair is and they are:
1. They do an exceptional job. Seriously out of this world.
2. They effed up so badly that it's fodder for late-night comedy show opening monologues.
3. They're publicity hounds that are more interested in going into self-promotion than in promoting the Democrats.
Two of those are bad!
BUT GETTING RID OF HIM BY PULLING A #2 IS BAD TOO!!! YOU'RE FIXING A MISTAKE BY MAKING A BIGGER MISTAKE!!! AAAAAAAAA
"
And, to be perfectly honest, removing Hogg from his seat not because "you can't sabotage Dems in good standing from your position of Vice-Chair, no matter how Righteously Angry you are... do it yourself, not as a DNC official" but because "you're male" is one of the things that does, in fact, matter for the Democrats in November 2026 (and 2028, and 2030, and so on).
There's a very particular reason that the Democrats have a lower approval rating than Trump and the stuff like this is why.