Russian Influence Indictment: Read It For Yourself
A federal indictment of two employees of Russia controlled RT media alleges financing of right-wing media personalities through Tenet Media. Read the indictment for yourself here:
Russian influence indictmentFrom Variety:
A federal indictment unsealed Wednesday (available at this link) charged two employees of RT, formerly known as Russia Today, of using “fake personas and shell companies” to carry out a “secret influence campaign in the United States.” The duo “operated under covert identities” at an American company identified in court documents as “U.S. Company-1.” CNN and other media outlets said they confirmed that the company in question is Tenet Media, whose affiliated personalities include Benny Johnson and “Culture War Podcast” host Tim Pool, both of whom have millions of followers on YouTube and other platforms.
“Many of the videos posted by U.S. Company-1 contain commentary on events and issues in the U.S., such as immigration, inflation, and other topics related to domestic and foreign policy,” the DOJ said. “While the views expressed in the videos are not uniform, most are directed to the publicly stated goals of the Government of Russia and RT — to amplify domestic divisions in the United States.”
Tenet Media did not respond to a request for comment submitted through its website.
In a post on X Wednesday, Johnson said, “A year ago, a media startup pitched my company to provide content as an independent contractor. Our lawyers negotiated a standard, arms length deal, which was later terminated. We are disturbed by the allegations in today’s indictment, which make clear that myself and other influencers were victims in this alleged scheme. My lawyers will handle anyone who states or suggests otherwise.”
Pool, also writing on X, said in part, “Should these allegations prove true, I as well as the other personalities and commentators were deceived and are victims. I cannot speak for anyone else at the company as to what they do or to what they are instructed.” Pool said, “Never at any point did anyone other than I have full editorial control of the show and the contents of the show are often apolitical. Examples include discussing spirituality, dating, and videos games. The show is produced in its entirety by our local team without input from anyone external to the company.”
Tenet Media describes itself as “a network of heterodox commentators that focus on Western political and cultural issues. Our goal is to support creators who question institutions that believe themselves to be above questioning. In our view, all issues du jour merit rigorous and honest discussion if one wants to come closest to the truth. For those interested in authentic coverage of the topics that matter most, Tenet Media is your home for content: fearless voices live here.”
Russia, Russia, Russia …
I feel like I have seen this story before. Or something really really close to it.Report
Do you remember that Mueller found no collusion between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia?Report
https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/
What Mueller found was insufficient evidence to make federal charges of conspiracy – which is a crime – while documenting significant activities, relationships and communications that would in fact describe collusion – which s not a federal crime.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collusion
The interactions of Russia and the Trump campaign in 2016 were definitely things they tried to keep secret, and were definitely deceitful even if not criminal. This time, the Russians happily crossed the line.Report
You and I both know that if the shoe were on the other foot, say like with Hillary Clinton, you’d be saying that she was investigated however many times and never charged with anything.Report
Funny that – You claimed Mueller found no collusion, I told reminded you he wasn’t attempting to find something that’s not chargeable under the federal criminal code, and you pivot to Hillary Clinton. We do have several investigations into her during her state department days by both Trump’s DOJ and the GOP controlled House before them, and she wasn’t referred for charging in any of them. There’s even a significant amount of evidence that the FBI publicly reopening an investigation into her laptop weeks before the election is one of several reasons she lost.
Mueller did charge and try a number of individuals he encountered during his investigation. Many of whom were convicted. He didn’t charge Trump because he was President by that time, and the DoJ still won’t charge or try sitting Presidents. By the time Trump left office, there were more pressing things to try him for, which has already resulted in his conviction on 34 state felony charges, as well as civil adjudication of him being a Rapist; him receiving two significant judgements for defamation of the woman who alleged the rape; and a civil judgement of fraud against his company.
So no, Sec. Clinton and Pres. Trump are not equivalent cases. And again, Mueller didn’t find prosecutable conspiracy, which means nothing regarding whether there was collusion.
You, of course know all this, but are happy to misdirect away from the interference of Russia in our elections – the now indicted interference in a second election – because as much as you dislike Trump, you like the GOP’s policy proposals that would accompany him. If Russia helps those goals come to fruition, you won’t argue.Report
Two observations about this.
First of all, the RT memo (assuming we credit it with authenticity and I see no reason not to) first eliminates the notion that there is a sufficiently “pro-Putin” constituency within US culture to develop, so it determines that the next best thing for Russian interests to do is to foster dissension, disunity, distrust, and political paralysis. To that end, it identified a constellation of arguments and concepts to advance into the American cultural consciousness, which would create the distrust and political paralysis Russia would need to force America to effective (although not official) neutrality. Concepts which happen to dovetail very closely with social conservative talking points.
Secondly, these guys are taking the position that they had no idea at all that it was Russian money paying them to push those exact same talking points out into the culture, that no one told them what to write or think, they believe all those things all on their own. Which means, if true, they somehow decided that they would advocate the exact same things that Russia thought would cause the most harm, friction, and paralysis in our culture. And indeed they saw and relished in the contentiousness they caused. Dozens of tweets from Tim Pool talking about a new civil war in America are still readily findable. That’s what they sold, and they knew they were selling it.
The only real question is did they know their sales commissions were being subsidized by Russia? We can choose to disbelieve them about their awareness that they were being paid by someone to push these ideas, even if we credit that they didn’t know it was Russia that was doing it. I have a hard time thinking that they really believed the advertising from Tenet Media and their own ventures partnered with Tenet was even close to enough to come up with the money they were making.
They were either traitors or whores, and they’re trying hard in their public statements to deny being whores. “We’re just inconsequential idiots who didn’t know what was going on, please don’t pay attention to us smol beans,” is not a particularly great defense in my book.Report
Like the former President they are trying to help, the believe the country is rubes and marks for their grift.Report
So you’re saying they were thieving whores.Report
yes, though I echo Andrew’s defense of whores.Report
Unfair comparison…What did whores ever do to be unjustifiably lumped in with this lot of amoral grifters?Report
“RT memo”?Report
My mistake. It’s not one memo, it’s several; it’s not written specifically by RT, it was written by a different state-controlled entity looking to flood the U.S. information environment with misinformation and foster discord.
See exhibits to this Justice Department filing made last week, in particular exhibits 3-13 (version A of each exhibit is a transition; version B is in the original Russian). Offered for proof of the proposition that the Russian government has taken a relatively sophisticated look at U.S. (and in one case Mexican) culture and tried to find pressure points to increase dissenion and disunity through manipulation of social media and the generalized information environment.Report
I didn’t read every line, but I saw nothing that, as you put it, happened to dovetail very closely with social conservative talking points.Report
I’ve listened to Matt Christiansen for years. He joined Tenet Media last year. His show changed format a bit, and I’ve fallen off watching it, but I have a lot of respect for his integrity and opinions. I’ve recommended him before, and barring any shocking news, I’d recommend him still.Report
Russia paid for Rubin and Pool even though it knew they were not likely to be financially successful:
Chen then solicited Commentator-1 — Dave Rubin — and Commentator-2 — Tim Pool— to work for the imaginary Eduard Grigoriann, drawing from a shortlist of candidates sent by one of the Russian personas. However, both Rubin and Pool demanded a lot of money. The indictment alleges Rubin wanted close to $5 million per year to create content for Tenet, and Pool wanted “100k per weekly episode to make it worth his while.” Chen warned the Russian persona that it would not be profitable to employ either of them, but the persona responded that they would love to move forward. In other words, Chen knew full well that their backers were willing to throw large sums at right-wingers with no hope of achieving a profitable return, a move that would be very odd for an actual business.
For a brief moment, it looked like Rubin might have been smart enough not to work for a completely unknown entity with cash to burn. The indictment shows that he inquired more than once about who Eduard Grigoriann was and wanted to know about the company and who he would be working with. However, he did not need much convincing, as there was no particularly robust effort to make Grigoriann’s existence believable.
https://www.publicnotice.co/p/russia-indictment-tim-pool-benny-johnson-rubinReport