Dog Gone

David Thornton

David Thornton is a freelance writer and professional pilot who has also lived in Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and Emmanuel College. He is Christian conservative/libertarian who was fortunate enough to have seen Ronald Reagan in person during his formative years. A former contributor to The Resurgent, David now writes for the Racket News with fellow Resurgent alum, Steve Berman, and his personal blog, CaptainKudzu. He currently lives with his wife and daughter near Columbus, Georgia. His son is serving in the US Air Force. You can find him on Twitter @CaptainKudzu and Facebook.

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  1. CJColucci
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    I’m not sure what’s worse, that she did this or that she thinks people will like or respect her for it.Report

    • Slade the Leveller in reply to CJColucci
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      What’s worse is the people coming to her defense, and I say that as someone who, like the writer, tolerates dogs.Report

    • Philip H in reply to CJColucci
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      Unfortunately a number of our more rural fellow citizens see dogs as tools for certain uses, not beloved family members or pets. Just like the see guns as tools, not “The End Of The World As We Know It.” Such folks might scoff at the decision to publish the story, but they probably share it.Report

        • Brandon Berg in reply to Jaybird
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          I met a girl from the ethnically Korean part of China (either the Jilin or Liaoning provinces) who said she liked dog meat. When we passed by a pet store I asked her which one she thought looked the most delicious, and she, scandalized at the thought, explained to me that some dog breeds were pets, and others were meat, and she would never want to eat a pet breed.

          I guess it’s not that different from the American idea that, e.g., cows are for food and horses are pets.Report

          • KenB in reply to Brandon Berg
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            Or the difference between wild vs bred animals. E.g. the Eastern Cottontails in our woods are cute if you happen to like all bunnies, but actual pet rabbits are much cuter and fluffier.Report

      • North in reply to Philip H
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        I doubt it. The problem is that Cricket didn’t do anything “kill” worthy by rural standards. Killing the friends of the families chickens is a problem but unless Cricket lived on a chicken farm that wouldn’t approach shooting worthy offense. Worst case, like urban dogs, Cricket would be given to a different farm. Also, at 18 months none of her behavior was inexcusable even to a dog instrumentalist culture. She’s just a young dog.Report

      • Dark Matter in reply to Philip H
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        My ex-wife grew up on a small farm. She’s had poultry which were pets until they weren’t. Her family has killed dogs for less reason. Her father attempted to raise animals for their fur.

        Animals exist to serve a purpose. When that purpose is over it’s off to the glue factory or whatever.

        This is a very normal attitude for a small farmer.Report

  2. Jaybird
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    For some reason, the trope about the evil person doing things to be evil because evil is fun is “Kick the Dog” and the one called “Shoot the Dog” is about somebody doing something out of cruel necessity.

    Old Yeller just ain’t in the rotation anymore.Report

  3. North
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    When I was in my early single digits (before I can remember) I am told I ill advisedly tried to grab the food dish of my parents old black lab Chipper and even more ill-advisedly got my hand bit for my trouble. My Grandfather took Chipper out for a walk on the cliffs of the Island and returned alone. Dogs that bite people get killed. It is a law as old as the human-dog relationship and probably is more responsible for the nature of dogs in modern times than any other thing.

    When I was in early double digits and my sister was in her mid-single digits my sister leaped up and down on the back of our saintly aging golden retriever Tyra which was undoubtably painful to my poor sweet old dog. Poor Tyra wound about and bit my sister on the face. A little higher and she’d have lost an eye, a little lower and she’d have been bit on the throat. It was a terrifying whirlwind nightmare of rushing my sister to the doctor. When we finally got home my Dad got his gun and fetched Tyra. Dogs that bite people get killed. I was beside myself because I, by then, knew how the old law goes and tried to persuade him to forbear to no avail. My sister still has dimple like scars on her cheeks from the tooth punctures. Dad came back without Tyra and I was utterly inconsolable (as, likely, was he for she truly was his dog more than any of ours).

    Away from the farms and fisheries in urban and city settings, I’ve definitely seen and heard that the old laws’ teeth have been blunted and dogs that bite people can survive the experience due to extenuating circumstances and other considerations. I don’t feel comfortable saying either way if that’s a good idea or not.

    Be that as it may, Cricket didn’t bite and should never have been killed. At least she got her vengeance post mortem by dragging Ms. Noems’ political career down with her. Sic semper stultus.Report

    • Philip H in reply to North
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      I’m not so sure her career has been drug down just yet.Report

    • Damon in reply to North
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      There definitely is a different from “farm country” and not farm country treatment of dogs. I spent time in both worlds, but more in the not farm country. My now ex would have raged at that type of treatment, but to her pets were family, she couldn’t see the other side, not having experienced it. I’d have some trouble with it too, but I’ll not disparage something like this because MY values don’t allow for it. I do find it odd that this was even mentioned in the book. Why the hell would you?Report

      • North in reply to Damon
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        I consider the old law rather dated and harsh but readily acknowledge its consequences in the sweet loving nature of most dogs in modern times. Such is how a wolf becomes a snuggly pup.

        I can only presume Noam assumed that taking a very tough “farm” stance would burnish her rural credentials and would also “trigger the libs” which would burnish her Maga credentials. This flags her both as a fake farmer- any farm person who wasn’t a dog hater would be appalled at her treatment of Cricket, and also a general tin-eared ness regarding political messaging. Also clearly the bubble around her is strong because none of her editors, ghost writers etc felt safe to intervene and say “Are you crazy? Take this out!”Report

      • InMD in reply to Damon
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        My guess is it was included to shock those most likely to be shocked, maybe also as a cultural signal. Or she could just be kind of an idiot.Report

    • Kazzy in reply to North
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      When I was about 11, my friend and neighbor had a family pet that was also trained as a guard dog. I forget what kind it was (I’m not a dog person) but it was big and furry… not a breed known for aggressiveness. The dog was typically in the house but was sometimes outside in a small fenced in area between the front and backyards. I went to see my friend and he told me to go around back. I mistakenly tried to do this by walking through the dog’s fenced in area — his personal space — and all he knew was a non-family member (I was familiar to him but i wasn’t FAMILY) was entering HIS space and that was enough to trigger his guard instincts. He went at me and I screamed and amidst a whirlwind of thrashing by both of us, the mom came out and pulled the dog off at me, at which point he immediately calmed down. I had a few black and blue marks where his teeth caught me on the thigh but didn’t picture. The crotch of my shorts was torn through (thank goodness for the baggy, saggy pants era!) though he never made contact with my delicates, though this was clearly from his training as a guard dog.

      I guess we could debate whether he bit me or not given the specifics. But I don’t believe there was ever talk of putting him down or anything else. As it stood, I was in the wrong, entering HIS space when I ought not to have (admittedly by mistake) and he did what he was trained to do. Thank goodness for my friend’s mom’s quick action.

      I’m not a dog fan and think too many people let their dogs act in socially irresponsible ways. But I’d push back on the old law since it would have caught my friend’s dog up in it and, I think, wrongly so.

      Now, would I like to put down a few dogs or dog owners for their socially irresponsible behavior? That’s another story…Report

      • North in reply to Kazzy
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        No blood, no bite is the rule as I generally understood it. So your friends dog would have skated by and probably would have been quietly approved of for such a restrained response.

        And I, like you, think the old law may be outdated now for many people. But I can’t, honestly, say it was wrong back in its time. Antibiotics once weren’t a thing. You could die from a splinter if your luck was bad. A dog bite could be the end.Report

        • Dark Matter in reply to North
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          Before antibiotics we had the President of the United States’ son die of a blister on his foot.Report

          • North in reply to Dark Matter
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            Yes, it’s so easy to forget in the golden glow of modernity how deep the chasm is beneath the tightrope of civilization.Report

            • Michael Cain in reply to North
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              I got a dog bite a couple of months ago that drew blood. I kept sort of a mental list of what modernity provided. Clean water in the shower, chlorinated so it’s not got bugs of its own. Soap. Then a scrub with hydrogen peroxide. Then a scrub with 70% rubbing alcohol. OTC antibiotic cream to rub in for the next few nights. My tetanus booster up to date. The dog’s rabies vaccination up to date. Hell, record keeping!

              OTOH, like most large mammals, humans are remarkably tough. I remember a couple of episodes where my skin did moderately gross things to avoid infections.Report

              • North in reply to Michael Cain
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                Assuredly. A healthy adult with a bite or skin perforation isn’t assured to keel over dead without intervention. Indeed the odds are steeply in their favor. Of course filth would hurt those odds a little. Hunger a bit more. Sickness a bit more. Cold a bit more. To say nothing of quack medicine. The further back in time we go the more of those negative factors pile up.

                And, on the other hand like in your excellent example, those steep odds in ones favor can be tilted even more favorably by cleanliness, by disinfectant and they can be made absolutely overwhelming by antibiotics.Report

    • Saul Degraw in reply to North
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      The big issue here of course is that very few of us live on the farm anymore. Even the most ardent MAGAt like Catturd thinks this is a bridge too far. She’s toast.Report

  4. Chip Daniels
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    ‘Kristi, darling, I understand completely,’ by Cruella De Vil

    Kristi, darling, I understand completely. You kill a single measly ill-behaved puppy, and everyone rushes to judgment! God forbid a woman do anything!

    It’s a cruel world — a cruel world, darling! Wretched! Putrid! But Cruella understands. Cruella is writing a check to Kristi Noem right now. What office are you running for? Governor? Vice president? It doesn’t matter! I have your back, a back I trust is covered in a fur as splendid as it is taboo. I am rock-solid for you. Name the figure! Any woman brave enough to fly in the face of societal convention and kill some puppies is a woman after my own heart. We are the real feminists, darling! Don’t forget it!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/29/kristi-noem-shot-dog-cruella-satire/Report

  5. Pinky
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    I’m a dog lover. This isn’t a story. Anyone who claims to want serious politics, you can’t call this a story.Report

  6. LeeEsq
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    Kristi Noem thought the story made her a tough woman of action rather than somebody who comes across like a heartless monster.Report

  7. Burt Likko
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    On the other hand, Noem’s children grew up exceptionally well-behaved.Report

  8. jaderiver
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    She’s doing damage control, very possibly. Getting ahead of the story. Apparently, for years, there has been talk among South Dakotans that Gov. Noem had been seen shooting her pets. The “construction workers?”

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/kristi-noem-killed-dog.htmlReport

  9. Saul Degraw
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    She is apparently double downing and suggested Biden’s dog should have been killed for his behavior too.Report

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