Parsing The Polling Numbers Post-Alito Draft

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  1. Saul Degraw says:

    The trillion dollar questions are:

    1. Is the leaked draft final? Follow up. stories indicate yes along with a lot of conservative crocodile tears over the leak. I think my money is on the leak coming from the conservatives to shore up waivers.

    2. Will Republicans Aiken themselves enough to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? The answer seems to be yes in some or many races so far.

    3. Will Democratic leaning voters learn that it is not always about their special issue? The student debt relief crowd so far makes me think at least some will not.

    2.Report

    • Chip Daniels in reply to Saul Degraw says:

      I’m convinced that if Aiken were to run today he would win.Report

      • Saul Degraw in reply to Chip Daniels says:

        In Missouri? Maybe. I think Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and maybe even Ohio, not as much. There are lots of wild cards in this election year. What Andrew neglected to mention was that Democratic interest in the midterms is up to 61 percent from 50 percent.Report

  2. Jaybird says:

    “Wrong Track” polling at 75%.

    That’s hard to spin.

    Maybe they think that Biden needs to move further left and their criticism is that he’s not more like Obama or Clinton?

    (More seriously, it may be time to bring back the old Misery Index.)Report

    • Saul Degraw in reply to Jaybird says:

      I think a right track vs. wrong track question is void for vagueness. I can think the country is on the wrong track because we have a GOP that has gone over the deep end to Great Replacement Theory, demagogues, and Trump’s appointments to the judiciary think they are royal monarchs in super-legislature. All of these things are wrong track but have nothing to do with Biden, inflation, or the Democrats.Report

      • Philip H in reply to Saul Degraw says:

        It’s like when folks say they are mad at “government.” More times then I can count, at the federal level, its Congress that people are mad at, or their state legislature, or their county commission, not “government.” But if you don’t ask the clarifying questions, you never know.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Saul Degraw says:

        I don’t think that it’s void for vagueness. It’s vague in order to get people to answer the question.

        Like, let’s say that a pollster called you up and asked you “DO YOU SUPPORT JOE BIDEN’S KIDNEY DIALYSIS MACHINE MANUFACTURER REGULATION?”

        There are a bunch of people who would not see this as a question about the regulations of the companies that manufacture kidney dialysis machines but more of a blank question of “Do you support the president?”

        I mean, I doubt that 1 in 100 people know enough about kidney dialysis machine manufacturing to have an informed opinion on any given piece of regulation about it.

        But when you see the question, there are a whole bunch of people who know that the question isn’t about the regulations, it’s about presidential support.

        “Right Track/Wrong Track”, however, is not only vague but it’s also fairly obviously not about whomever is president. It has built in “this isn’t a question about whether I support the president, it’s about whether I think the country is on the right track or not”.

        And so people who would answer “I SUPPORT JOE BIDEN’S KIDNEY DIALYSIS MACHINE MANUFACTURING LEGISLATION!” (despite not even knowing whether he’s suggested such a thing) because, gosh darn it, they support Joe Biden might also be able to say “But I think that the country is on the wrong track.”

        I see it as a fairly useful question.

        Now, granted, it’s not really that useful when right track/wrong track numbers hover somewhere between 45-55… but at 75%?

        You’ve got yourself a question that is definitely non-void.Report

        • Jaybird in reply to Jaybird says:

          Granted: I also assume my “Three Groups of Voters”.

          1: The people who, if they vote, will vote for your guy no matter what.
          2: The people who, if they vote, will vote for the other guy no matter what.
          3: The people who could go either way.

          The only thing you can do to change the 1s and the 2s is get them fired up or get them to not care who wins. “I ain’t gonna stand in line, dammit” is what you *WANT* your opponents to say. You can never, ever, get them to vote for your guy. You might be able to get them to stand aside while your guy gets elected.

          Same for your #1s. You can get them fired up and you want them to get fired up. “Vote for my guy and he will give you what you want! He will also oppose your opponents!” You want your guys to say “Heck yeah! To the voting booths!” and not “He promised that last time and the time before.”

          As for the #3s… well, right/wrong track is a good indicator for whether they’re likely to swing for your guy or the other guy.

          A 75% “right track” is a great number for your guy. It indicates not only that #3s are likely to swing, but #2s are likely to forget to vote that day. #1s are going to be feeling pretty good and will remember to vote that day.Report