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Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has been the Managing Editor of Ordinary Times since 2018, is a widely published opinion writer, and appears in media, radio, and occasionally as a talking head on TV. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter@four4thefire. Andrew is the host of Heard Tell podcast. Subscribe to Andrew'sHeard Tell Substack for free here:

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  1. Philip H says:

    LF -1: Spot F’n on. Too many powerful people have too much personal investment in looking the other way.

    LF-6: Is it too early to talk about how Arizona Senate President Karen Fann is a disgrace to her office for starting this whole thing and should be run out of town on a rail? Thoughts and prayers to her and all the elites that Cyber Ninjas punked.Report

  2. Chip Daniels says:

    LF5: Note the passive voice, that America “has failed” these people. These are not the empowered citizens from a Rockwell painting, but simply pitiful children who have “been failed”.Report

  3. Pinky says:

    LF1 – Two senators heard a dumb plan from the president’s lawyers and scoffed at it, and they’re the real bad guys? Of course not. I wouldn’t call them heroes either, but they had no legal or moral obligation to go public with it. And they apparently talked down the president’s lawyers from pursuing it. January 6th would probably have been a worse day if they’d gone public with it.

    Lawyers are going to grope for the best argument they can make. Eastman did, I guess, and it was terrible, so it went nowhere.Report

    • Philip H in reply to Pinky says:

      There’s a difference between bad lawyering – Krakken comes to mind – and lawyering with the intend of subverting democracy. This was and is the later, and it rises to the defending the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic part of the Senator’s oath.

      Especially now that its in the open that they rejected it but still say nothing. They are cowards.Report

      • Oscar Gordon in reply to Philip H says:

        IMHO this falls back to the whole Congress can’t get in trouble for stupid sh*t they say while in office. That Laissez-faire treatment invades their thinking.Report

      • Brandon Berg in reply to Philip H says:

        Did you get whiplash from posting this after eight months of cheering on unconstitutional legislation and executive orders?

        Anyway, it seems to me that duty to report depends on the credibility of the threat. It’s not like they were proposing a violent coup. It was some cockamamie legal play that obviously wasn’t going to work. It’s not clear to me that telling those clowns to STFU and stop embarrassing themselves and then just waiting out the clock was the wrong approach to take here.Report

    • Mike Schilling in reply to Pinky says:

      Don’t they take an oath to defend the Constitution? I know, no one takes that seriously except as an excuse for anti-Muslim bigotry.Report

  4. Doctor Jay says:

    LF1: As bad as this was, I do also note that figures like Dan Quayle and George W. Bush have been quite clear in their objections. Mitch McConnell in fact, denounced the “objection” vote of his own party members on the day. Pence declined to go along with whatever scheme Trump wanted him to do, maybe it was this one, after consulting with Quayle. It’s hard to imagine why he needed to talk to someone else, but wow, in the end he did the right thing.

    Countless other state-level Republican election officials did their duty and counted and reported votes faithfully and accurately.

    Yes, we have a problem. We need to keep working on that problem. But just the same it’s not *all* Republicans who are a problem.

    Don’t unite your opponents, divide them.Report

    • Chip Daniels in reply to Doctor Jay says:

      What percentage of elected Republicans are willing to say Biden won?Report

    • Philip H in reply to Doctor Jay says:

      But just the same it’s not *all* Republicans who are a problem.

      What percentage of Republican politicians have denounced Trump’s Big Lie since then?
      What percentage of Republicans politicians have denounced their own party’s false audits?
      What percentage of Republican Rank and file believe the Big Lie?
      What percentage of Republican politicians have voted against ever more restrictive voting rights legislation?Report