4 thoughts on “Canadian Leaders Debate Amongst Themselves

  1. As a grit I’m, of course, pleased though I admit a certain trepidation as well. The Liberals of Canada did a fantastic job in the late 90’s and early 2000’s then benefitted from a stint in the wilderness to come back and do a tolerable job in the late teens and early 20’s but Trudea forgot a lot of ol’ Jonny Cretchien and Paul Martins hard won lessons. The Liberals maybe could do with another trip to the wilds in a world where the right wing party was, well, *looks at Poilievre* …not that and a world with no Trump. In this world, though, I’m pretty happy to be able to vote for Carney and expect him to do well.Report

    1. Yeah, the people who shifted from NDP to Liberal in that graph were all doing a “NOT POILIEVRE” imo and from what I’ve heard anecdotally. I voted NDP myself, because I really really hate the Liberal running in my particular district, I think he’s a corrupt jackass, and I like the NDP candidate a lot. But I only did that because I could sufficiently assure myself that my candidate could not win my district over the Liberal incumbent. Otherwise I would have voted NOT POILIEVRE too.Report

  2. As much as its nice to blame Trump for everything, Poilievre has very much been the author of much of his own misfortunes in many respects these past months.

    1) While he was riding high in 2024 with the anticipation of walking into the PM job next year due to a huge polling lead he spent his political capital largely on imposing his own will and direct personal control over the national conservative movement. No serious names were recruited to run under his banner and he rejected offers from a lot of fresh provincial politicians who were interested. Most famously de Jong in BC who is running as an independent and might well take a seat, but word is plenty of Legault’s team in Quebec were interested. He also actively alienated the senior right wing premiers in Legault and Ford both who could have helped him a lot and have been if anything working towards his defeat right now.

    2) He epically mishandled the Trump situation from the start, something which Doug Ford’s brain trust (who executed it masterfully to get a fresh majority a couple months ago) hasn’t been shy in mentioning to the public after private suggestions were rebuffed.

    3) He’s made himself completely unpalpable to people who don’t support him, which has motivated supporters to rally the flag against him. This is true both on the voter level (Bloq and NDP voters have flocked to Carney’s banner in droves) and at the party level (Blanchet was happy to give cover to the Liberals to have a leadership race because he had no desire to coronate Poilievere who he doesn’t like on a personal level, Singh utterly loathes him and is using his remaining time to mainly go after the CPC rather than claw back support lost to the Liberals).

    4. He took the unprecedented move of banning national media from covering him from his plane, which might have helped to avoid bad press if he was cruising to victory but when he’s been at least 5 points down in the polls he both created a host of process stories and couldn’t get any coverage of his efforts to pivot against Trump or get anyone talking his policy proposals when he finally unveilled them.

    Its been a tale of hubris with apple-eating taking the place of wax-wings.

    Contrast to the competence the Liberals have demonstrated in knowing what needed to be done, what the people wanted most in this moment and doing their level best to deliver. Polls towards the end suggested even a deeply wounded Trudeau would be probably holding 30% of the vote come election time. With a leader that is in broad strokes exactly what the country is looking for in a chief executive right now they have a strong position heading towards the finish.Report

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