13 thoughts on “From Politico: Voters Were Right About the Economy. The Data Was Wrong.

  1. This is really bad, with some pretty serious misinterpretation of statistics (e. g. assuming that everybody working part time would prefer to work full time but can’t find a full-time job). He’s also acting like he’s exposing some deep secrets, but this is stuff anyone who follows economics stats would already know.

    I’m hoping to find some time to write up a full debunking.Report

    1. Yeah his notion of a person working full time for minimum wage as being functionally unemployed miscalls takes my entire state’s economy down. And I think a LOT of Mississippians would disagree with that statement.

      Looking for ears to your debunk.Report

      1. Even in Mississippi, the median hourly wage was $18 in 2023. Certainly not great, but 2.5 times the minimum wage.

        https://www.bls.gov/oes/2023/may/oes_ms.htm

        Nationally, the 10th percentile weekly earnings for full-time workers is $611, and the BLS considers “full time” to start at 35 hours, not 40. As far as I can tell, essentially nobody works full time for federal minimum wage anymore. Even part-time work rarely pays that little except in tipped jobs.

        https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LEU0252911200QReport

    2. While it is true that this person at the very least plays fast and loose with some of the statistics, I think their broader message is correct. That is, viewed with traditional metrics, the economy looked pretty good last year. Viewed with expanded metrics, such as under employed, people who’ve stopped looking at work, prices of everyday goods relative to what they were a few years earlier, etc., last year’s economy looked pretty bad, at least if you were not already wealthy.

      The liberal/Democratic narrative both in the lead up to and with extra vehemence after the election, was that people were being deceived into believing that the economy was bad, and they were worse off financially than they were in 2020. In addition to being ridiculously condescending (as though people can’t look at their bank accounts and credit card statements, or the price of a new car or a home, or home repairs, or groceries, etc.), this narrative was also just wrong, and it’s good that people are trying to point this out with numbers, but it’d be better if they were using the numbers correctly.Report

      1. In my estimation It’s all in the cost of living. You can have a job and still feel poorer. People lost a significant chunk of their actual income from inflation and the cost of money made it harder to make big purchases like a home or car. People feel those changes in a way that they don’t feel a low unemployment rate or good stock market.Report

    1. I wasn’t really convinced. I think Smith is right in the sense that the government data isn’t wrong or misleading. It just isn’t measuring what is actually impacting peoples’ assessment of the economy.Report

      1. I mean, on the facts he’s simply correct – Ludwig mishandled the data.

        Of course, that’s not the same as saying people don’t have reasons to be angry about the economy but that’s a separate issue. The reason people feel bad about the economy is that while inflation has gone down, prices are still much higher than they were 5 years ago and wages are still catching up. But nothing Smith said contradicts that.Report

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