14 thoughts on “Reports: Isreal and Hamas Agree To Cease-fire Deal

  1. Indeed they have – and on cue the right is saying it’s because Hamas is afraid of Trump and what he will do once he gets in office. Of course if that were the case they would have pulled a Reagan and announced the cease fire as he’s being sworn in.

    All of this brought to you by an overworked, underpaid civil and foreign service staff whom the GOP wants to mostly eliminate.Report

    1. It’s not Hamas who’s afraid of Trump. Hamas had agreed to basically this deal in May, and at least 2 other times. What’s more, Hamas was able to get some last minute concessions that hadn’t been in the May Biden deal that they had, again, already agreed to. It is Israel who is afraid of Trump. .

      The best tweet I saw about this was something like, “If the Democrats had known losing the election would result in a ceasefire, they’d have tried harder to win it.”Report

        1. I think there’s a pretty persuasive case to be made that Bibi isn’t afraid exactly of Trump but uneasy because he knows a lot of people who don’t like him have Trumps’ ear. The Saudi/’s, for example. I think it’s not so much fear of Trump trying to fish Bibi over so much as fear that Trump will be too unpredictable for Bibi to continue to do the fan dance he’s been doing.Report

          1. They’re going to have to either:

            1. Pick Side A
            2. Pick Side B
            3. Say “look, the conflict is over, we have a ceasefire, can we all just please change the subject to abortion and black lives and whether they matter?”

            My money is on 3.Report

            1. I don’t think it’s quite that simple. To put it in Jaybird terms Likud, led by Netanyahu, has been hitting the “defect” button on the bipartisan support for Israel issue for a long time now and the Dems have been responding by pressing the “cooperate” button while increasingly testily commenting on it. At some point their decision is going to have to change. As someone once said- the game is iterated.Report

              1. So pick Side B?

                I’d argue that Side B did a good job of changing the tide in Michigan and, interestingly, is taking the ceasefire as a “win” and an argument that voting the way they did was the right choice.

                Winning back Side B will be possible… but they defected too.Report

              2. Like I said, it’s not simple.

                If side B is Muslims then probably not with the PA moribund and all other Muslim participants in the direct question of Israel being deranged.

                If I were to guess, probably things may go with campaigning following normal nostrums but Likud discovering that increasing numbers of Democrats respond to Likud calls with “new phone, who’s this?”Report

              3. There is a strong suggestion that Trump made a deal with Netanyahu where the US would back Israel’s settlements in the WB. I.e. that the cost of ending the war (no, I won’t call it “genocide”) was the Palestinians will lose land.

                If that’s the case I expect “voting the way they did was the right choice” won’t age well.Report

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