MAGA Isn’t Serious About the Border

David Thornton

David Thornton is a freelance writer and professional pilot who has also lived in Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and Emmanuel College. He is Christian conservative/libertarian who was fortunate enough to have seen Ronald Reagan in person during his formative years. A former contributor to The Resurgent, David now writes for the Racket News with fellow Resurgent alum, Steve Berman, and his personal blog, CaptainKudzu. He currently lives with his wife and daughter near Columbus, Georgia. His son is serving in the US Air Force. You can find him on Twitter @CaptainKudzu and Facebook.

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  1. Philip H
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    When it comes to Democrats, they are ignoring their fringe on this and a whole host of other issues. The Republicans have expanded their fringe so much so that it serves as their base, and is thus necessary for reelection. One of these things remains not like the others.Report

  2. Chip Daniels
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    Seeing how eager the Republicans are for a showdown with Biden, reminds me of the observation that one of the key aspects of fascism is the desire for epic struggle and eternal war.

    For them, this isn’t a mundane legal matter or even a serious policy issue.
    This is part of their Flight 93 narrative, the epic clash of cultures in which they will emerge victorious and their hated outgroups be vanquished.

    But the important part, is that the struggle never be over. That there is always and forever a hated EastAsia or yellow horde or some other enemy who keeps the base in a frenzy of fear and hatred.Report

    • North in reply to Chip Daniels
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      Which is also why Bidens de-escalation and low key approach is likely the right one- though we won’t know until after November.Report

      • Chip Daniels in reply to North
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        De-escalation works when the other party wants something and can be negotiated with.

        What the MAGAs want can’t be given, by anyone. Their set of grievances can’t be solved by any law or regulation or court ruling. There isn’t any compromise that can mollify them.

        It may be possible to sidestep this, but eventually will come a situation when we can’t because they are desperately searching for that very situation and will eventually find it.Report

        • Dark Matter in reply to Chip Daniels
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          Pot, meet Kettle.Report

        • North in reply to Chip Daniels
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          What the Magas want, above all, is a confrontation on their terms. Thus Abbots antics on the border. Biden may not be able to cut a deal with them but by not giving them the confrontation they, and especially a massively unpopular Abbot, want he denies them what they want.Report

          • Chip Daniels in reply to North
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            Sounds great.
            1. How, exactly does Biden enforce federal action while not giving them the confrontation they want?
            2. Why should we care if they want a confrontation or not?Report

            • Jaybird in reply to Chip Daniels
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              The problem is that Biden is failing to enforce federal action.

              The Supreme Court ruling was also kinda narrow. It merely said “Texas can’t stop the Feds from taking down razor wire.”

              And you know what? I agree that Texas can’t.

              But I wouldn’t over-read into that ruling. Not when you’ve got a bunch of cities considering getting rid of the whole “sanctuary” thing while a whole bunch of others are pointing out that “sanctuary doesn’t mean ‘illegals welcome’, that’s dishonest!” at the same time that cities are screaming about being overwhelmed with undocumented dreamers who are just looking for a better life for themselves and their families.

              These hands are *EXCEPTIONALLY* easy to overplay. Texas has not yet overplayed. Neither has Biden.

              You’d be better off changing the subject to abortion.Report

              • Chip Daniels in reply to Jaybird
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                If Abbot wants to play Jefferson Davis to Biden’s Lincoln, well, all I can say is, “Please proceed, Governor.”Report

              • Jaybird in reply to Chip Daniels
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                Nah. That sucks. Go for something like “Abbot is George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door!”Report

              • Philip H in reply to Jaybird
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                The problem is that Biden is failing to enforce federal action.

                How so? As of 2020, there were 19,740 Border Patrol Agents (I can’t find any 2023 staffing levels). The number of enforcement actions is growing every year, not shrinking. In this year’s budget request, Biden has has asked for funds to cover an additional 1,300 border patrol agents, 375 immigration judges, 1,600 asylum officers, and over 100 cutting-edge inspection machines – which Congress has failed to appropriate.

                So it appears Joe Biden is doing everything he can consistent with the resources he has been given.Report

              • Jaybird in reply to Philip H
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                “The problem is that the schools are graduating illiterates.”

                “As of 2020, there were 19,740 teachers!”Report

              • Philip H in reply to Jaybird
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                How is the President failing to enforce federal action on immigration?Report

              • Jaybird in reply to Philip H
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                This is from the House Committee on Homeland Security:

                Encounters at the Southwest border (SWB) in FY2023 increased over 40% since FY2021, 4% compared to FY2022, and more than 100% compared to FY2019.
                Last month, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reported a 40% increase compared to September 2021 and 18% compared to September 2022.
                Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.5 million encounters nationwide and 6.2 million encounters at the Southwest border, in addition to 1.7 million known gotaways.

                Now I suppose the argument could be something like “show me the law that says that people have to cross at a legal port of entry” and then someone says something like “8 U.S. Code § 1325” and then we can come back and ask “ARE YOU A LAWYER? ARE YOU A LAWYER?” and that’ll be fun.

                For the record: I am not.Report

              • Philip H in reply to Jaybird
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                So to be clear, encounters rising is an indicator of a lack of legal action by the Biden Administration?

                Fascinating.Report

              • Jaybird in reply to Philip H
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                The reversal of the “Remain in Mexico” policy resulted in that sort of thing.

                We’re probably not in agreement on “ought” vs. is” here.

                I mean, if we were really willing to go with POSIWID, we’d see that Trump’s border policies were to keep undocumented migrants out and Biden’s is to allow undocumented migrants in.

                And it’s that simple.

                “How is Biden failing? He’s *SUCCEEDING*!”

                So maybe I was just unclear on the goal.

                I’d say that Abbot and the other 25 states have one idea of what border policy ought to be, Biden has a different one.

                And Biden has the power.Report

              • Chip Daniels in reply to Philip H
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                If Trump were in office, his sheer masculine presence and glowering posture would cause would-be migrants to tremble in fear and decide against migrating.Report

              • DensityDuck in reply to Philip H
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                Well, Phil’s not actually wrong here. The federal agents pulling down razor wire are enforcing federal action on immigration.Report

              • Chip Daniels in reply to Philip H
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                The fact that Biden is actually doing the job properly s of no interest to MAGAs.
                As others have pointed out, MAGAs don’t actually want to DO anything serious about the border.

                Their grievances are rooted in humiliation and emasculation so their solutions involve theatrical displays of dominance.Report

              • PD Shaw in reply to Jaybird
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                I see the problem a bit differently. We’ve had two Supreme Court rulings that essentially held that the President does not have to follow immigration law, Biden possesses enforcement discretion to ignore it. That means the only way toward policy goals, whether they be in the direction of open or closed borders, who is in the White House is the only thing that matters.

                (The two rulings are Biden v. Texas (2022) (Biden has the discretion to end the Remain in Mexico policy even if assuming for the sake of argument his new policy contradicts immigration law) and U.S. v. Texas (2023) (Biden has the discretion to enact a policy “Final Memorandum” to not detain and remove classes of convicted aliens required to be detained and removed by law))

                The second case made clear that democratic accountability for discretionary acts of the President is at the ballot box:
                “through elections, American voters can both influence Executive Branch policies and hold elected officials to account for enforcement decisions.”Report

              • Jaybird in reply to PD Shaw
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                Didn’t US v. Texas just say that the states don’t have standing to challenge? Like, not that Biden has that discretion, just that the states don’t have legal standing to say that he’s not doing his job?

                But, in any case, oh yeah. Those rulings are different ones entirely than the one that said that the states can’t interfere with the Feds removing razor wire.

                I do wonder if we are going to see stuff come to a head…Report

              • PD Shaw in reply to Jaybird
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                Texas lacked standing because the SCOTUS determined that detention and removal mandates are ultimately discretionary acts, like whether to arrest a person for jaywalking. In those situations, a plaintiff is not entitled to enforce a statutory mandate in federal court. (This isn’t how Texas characterized it, of course, they wanted the Court to strike the passages in the DHS Final Memorandum that contradicted federal law)

                Chicago is almost certainly violating the Constitution by impeding transport of aliens in interstate commerce. I wonder if the administration will file an amicus brief on behalf of the Texas bus companies?Report

    • Michael Cain in reply to Chip Daniels
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      But the important part, is that the struggle never be over. That there is always and forever a hated EastAsia or yellow horde or some other enemy who keeps the base in a frenzy of fear and hatred.

      Climate change pretty much guarantees a steady stream of economic refugees for the rest of the century. Sort of a side note to that: climate change is driving the drought in Panama that has forced the Canal Authority to reduce operations, from about 38 ships per day to 24. The solution that’s being pushed is to dam a river and drill a five-mile water transfer tunnel, costing billions of dollars.Report

      • Pinky in reply to Michael Cain
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        Racism will never be fully vanquished. Equality will only be reached when each person has the same goods. As long as young people are confused by sex, teachers will be more important than parents. None of this is ever over.Report

        • Damon in reply to Pinky
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          Ofc not. It’s part of the hindbrain of mankind. “The other” is to be feared. Not part of the tribe, be suspicious. That helps you survive on the savannah. Give it a thousand more years or two. Maybe then.Report

          • Pinky in reply to Damon
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            My point was that neither the left nor the right talk solely about issues with eventual solutions. And that’s reasonable, because they shouldn’t. There’s no shame in addressing crises that can only be mitigated.

            Also, while it’s common to fear “the other”, people tend to react even more negatively to betrayal within the group. And individuals can overcome either impulse. So it strikes me more as a matter of sin than of tribal impulse. Also, you’d better hope I’m right, because if it is genetic, it’s not going away for millions of years. Better that it’s individual or cultural.Report

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