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Will Truman

Will Truman is the Editor-in-Chief of Ordinary Times. He is also on Twitter.

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  1. Slade the Leveller says:

    Just an editorial quibble:

    I honestly agree with a number of the criticisms lobbed at Hyundai/Kia (hereafter “Hyundai”).

    Kia screwed up.Report

  2. KenB says:

    When I saw the post title, I assumed this was going to be about browsers.

    Anyway, absent any misrepresentation and any violation of documented standards, this seems like a bad area for legal action. The appropriate punishment for Hyundai and Kia is that their sales suffer (at least in America — I’ve read that this so far has not been an issue in other countries. Hooray for American ingenuity!). There are all sorts of unintended consequences that could arise from setting an implicit legal obligation that all car companies have to match what most of their competitors do in any arbitrary area outside of public safety (obviously even in that domain there are plenty of unintended consequences, but the justification there is a little stronger).Report

    • Brandon Berg in reply to KenB says:

      This is going to be controversial, but I think it was pretty irresponsible of Hyundai and Kia to embed screens that run web browsers in their steering wheels.Report

      • KenB in reply to Brandon Berg says:

        Reminds me of an old Letterman top ten list:

        Top 10 Ways American Cars Would be Different if Ralph Nader Had Never Been Born

        10. Dashboard hibachis
        9. Seat belts made of piano wire
        8. Windshield replaced with ant farm for kids
        7. Strobe headlights make oncoming traffic look like old time movie
        6. 50-foot antennas allow you to broadcast while driving
        5. Optional front-seat hammocks
        4. Wiper fluid reservoir routinely filled with thousand island dressing
        3. New York City taxis would be exactly the same
        2. The paper Buick
        1. Speedometer replaced with electronic voice chanting “Punch it! Punch it!”Report

  3. PD Shaw says:

    Ten percent of Kia’s in Chicago were stolen last year, so in about ten years the problem will be resolved.

    As to the lawsuits, they appear to be typical class action lawsuits. I have problems with some of the abuses in class actions, but they might benefit from the government pursuing them on behalf of the public. The proposed settlement gives consumers up to $300 for a wheal lock or anti-theft system. Individuals can’t sue for that kind of relief, and Illinois isn’t joining because that won’t be effective for all vehicles, so it could be more, but still probably sorely insufficient for individual actions.Report

    • PD Shaw in reply to PD Shaw says:

      Looks like plaintiffs are relying on Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 114, which requires all vehicles to “have a starting system which, whenever the key is removed… prevents the normal activation of the vehicle’s engine or motor.” Manufacturers self-certify compliance with this requirement, so I would expect the lawsuit to focus on what the companies knew or should have known when certifying.Report

      • Michael Cain in reply to PD Shaw says:

        It seems like the argument against that is in “normal activation”. Pulling and replacing the lock cylinder is not normal activation. Plugging in a USB thumb drive is not normal activation. Actual hot-wiring is not normal activation. The complaint seems to be that abnormal activation is not sufficiently difficult.Report

        • PD Shaw in reply to Michael Cain says:

          I think that’s a good argument, and interpreting the standard will be a significant issue. It looks to me like there is a regulation, but it’s not written as a specification (identifying specific widget(s) or measurable standards), but a fairly general principle. The benefit of not having a specification is that it allows innovation in areas of technological change; the downside is it can lead to judicial interpretation.

          I omitted that part of the standard that states it’s purpose is “to decrease the likelihood that a vehicle is stolen, or accidentally set in motion.” So the plaintiffs will focus on the more general purpose of “theft prevention” (which is also in the title), and then focus on theft prevention systems that were common in vehicles at the time of certification.Report

  4. Ben Sears says:

    I hope they go after necklace makers next.Report

  5. Brandon Berg says:

    If this was a problem in the cars they’ve been making since 2011, I wonder why thefts didn’t really start until last year. Apparently the technique was popularized on TikTok, but we had social media before. I thought maybe a cryptographic key had been leaked or something, but apparently the USB cable is used in a purely mechanical manner, like a screwdriver, not to transmit data to the car.

    So why did it take thieves a over a decade to figure this out?Report

  6. Damon says:

    Start making sticks. No one can steal much less drive those.Report