Beware the Nuts

David Thornton

David Thornton is a freelance writer and professional pilot who has also lived in Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and Emmanuel College. He is Christian conservative/libertarian who was fortunate enough to have seen Ronald Reagan in person during his formative years. A former contributor to The Resurgent, David now writes for the Racket News with fellow Resurgent alum, Steve Berman, and his personal blog, CaptainKudzu. He currently lives with his wife and daughter near Columbus, Georgia. His son is serving in the US Air Force. You can find him on Twitter @CaptainKudzu and Facebook.

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  1. And there were 123,456,789 similar tweets, Facebook posts, thinkpieces, speeches at various functions, and even whole entire books written after the 2016 election saying the same things about Republicans. Far more of these sentiments, and from far more important and influential leftist influencers and pundits.

    If you don’t recall that, I suggest you see a doctor about your memory loss.

    We are in a race to the bottom, and you need to stop contributing to the running of that race. Either start unraveling the reasons for that race fully and honestly – discussing the full history of how we got to where we are as completely as you can, or offer solutions. What you’re doing here is ugly, divisive, and blatantly deceptive.Report

    • I’d think you’d be well placed to write both the history piece and the solutions piece.Report

    • Pinky in reply to Kristin Devine says:

      I think the difference is that the Republican Party used to be largely free of this stuff. I think the institutional party (the officials and Romneys) still is. There’s always been a loony right, but they’d never been near power. It’s also worth noting that the loony right agrees with the left on a lot of things.

      I’m interested in the work of Joseph Uscinski, a researcher on the subject of conspiracy theories and thinking. He claims that there’s been no increase in conspiracy theorists in recent years. I get the impression that the number of believers is pretty steady, but the willingness to speak up varies over time.Report

      • InMD in reply to Pinky says:

        My perception is that in the wake of Trump the right has picked up on a lot of conspiratorial thinking that I used to see as at least vaguely left coded. Part of that story is also probably the institutional left picking up a style of social and cultural heavy handedness I used to see as at least vaguely right coded.Report

        • Mike Schilling in reply to InMD says:

          The loony Right has a long history, as recounted in The Paranoid Style in American Politics, which was inspired by Goldwater’s 1964 presidential run. We remember Goldwater fondly, as a principled libertarian, but the racism surrounding him in 1964 was enough to drive people like Jackie Robinson away from the GOP (which had largely voted for the CRA and VRA) for good.Report

      • DavidTC in reply to Pinky says:

        I think the difference is that the Republican Party used to be largely free of this stuff.

        Could you give a date on that? I’m assuming the transition you’re thinking of is when they went Birtherism, but just checking.Report

  2. Chip Daniels says:

    Time for me to re-up my recurring challenge for the conservatives here to describe their worst-case scenario of an unfettered Democratic government.

    Like, given a complete control of the levers of government, what are some of the things Democrats in office are promising to do?

    The last few times we’ve conducted this experiment, the answers ranged from “mismanage the economy” to “allow women to get abortions” to “allow trans people to live as they wish”.

    Then we can compare these to actual policy proposals being bandied about by conservatives.Report

  3. Greg In Ak says:

    I think this is a good piece but the “both sides…” is bad and gets in the of understanding. Granted most people do this so this isn’t on you David. Conspiracies are not sided. One party may have more of this nut now then another but conspriacries are from people, not from parties.

    The “both sides” stuff gets in the because just start pointing fingers instead of looking at themselves or their group. Most of the right coded conspiracies are shared by the current libertarians (buffoons that they are) or the anti vax stuff has been on the left for a while. But even not aligned people have conspiracies.

    Want less conspiracies speak out w/o the both sides stuff. If it’s wrong , just say it’s wrong. You dont’ have to find a corresponding loon on another side. That is one way to start to cope .Report

    • Pinky in reply to Greg In Ak says:

      I don’t see libertarians as conspiracy people. Then again, I haven’t been hanging out on their sites lately.Report

      • Greg In Ak in reply to Pinky says:

        The official Libertarian party has gone hard right. They have lost a ton of members and mostly just troll post on Twitter. This isn’t just my liberal view, it’s what a lot of libertarians have said. All the same conspiracies as are found on the right.Report

    • DavidTC in reply to Greg In Ak says:

      I am actually completely baffled if I am supposed to think that the two examples of Dem conspiracy, _both_ of which were correct (Republicans were indeed planning to take away the rights of women to an abortion, which is less a conspiracy theory or even a hypothesis and more ‘They literally said they would over and over for decades, and then did it.’), is actually BSDI, or whether that is somehow supposed to be sarcastic. I literally typed a half a post and deleted it because I ended up completely confused if I was supposed to be taking that seriously.Report

  4. LeeEsq says:

    As with nearly everything else the American Right does, every accusation is a confession. The accusation that the Democrats are going to go out and start killing Republicans would be funny if not for the current context of American politics. Just about near 100% of all political violence and threats of political violence have been done on the Right. People on my side of the aisle, especially if they aren’t very online, have been working hard to find the Secret Disney Liberal in Republicans in order to calm down and restore sanity.Report

    • Pinky in reply to LeeEsq says:

      Are you counting the Nashville school shooting as political? The Louisville bank shooting?Report

      • DavidTC in reply to Pinky says:

        I dunno, maybe he was counting the one that happened literally four hours after he made that comment where a woman got shot for having a pride flag up.

        Wait, no, I doubt that, it would require LeeEsq to be psychic, sorry. I don’t know why I was thinking he might be.

        Hey, explain to me why you think the 2023 Louisville bank shooting would even be vaguely classified under political by anyone?Report

        • DavidTC in reply to DavidTC says:

          Hey, explain to me why you think the 2023 Louisville bank shooting would even be vaguely classified under political by anyone?

          Hey, can I actually get a response to this? Why do you think that’s political?Report

          • Pinky in reply to DavidTC says:

            He was a left-wing anti-Trumper who wanted commit suicide so he bought a gun and went on a killing spree to prove how easy it was for crazy people to buy guns.Report

  5. Rufus F. says:

    Okay, this really is nit-picking because I understand and appreciate the post itself. However, it’s not entirely pedantic to point out that what happened in Rwanda was a genocide and not ethnic cleansing. The distinction is ethnic cleansing is trying to remove a group of people from a piece of land, without regard to whether they die in the process, while genocide is setting out to exterminate a group of people.

    I actually asked the late Alison Des Forges this question (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Des_Forges she wrote the book on the Rwandan Genocide) and she put it as, in one case, think of it as flushing a group of people out of a territory by almost surrounding them, while in the other, the aim is to surround them and not let them escape.Report