When The Black Dog Goes For A Walk
988 is now the suicide prevention hotline throughout the United States. If you, or someone close to you, is experiencing profound, intense emotional distress and a suicide attempt is in play, call 988. There is help, there is hope.
That message once upon a time seemed distant from me. At this point in my life, writing it pulls a few tears into my eyes.
Okay. On with the post.
I saw news on Thursday, waiting in line at the food cart for my lunch. Senator John Fetterman has been admitted to Walter Reed Hospital just outside of Washington D.C., and is being treated for clinical depression. My internal mental reactions were roughly thus:
That is a super inappropriate thing for reporting. Depression is super personal and there’s stigma attached to it. Fetterman should be able to keep that private if he wants to.
Well, no, he’s a United States Senator. We do have an interest in the ability of our leaders to lead us.
Damn it that’s what I’m talking about! That’s perpetrating the stigma! You, of all people, should know that people can and do function effectively even while they struggle with depressive episodes! There’s no reason to think he made a bad public decision because of this.
But everything’s a matter of degree, isn’t it? Especially with something like this. You don’t know if he’s functional or not, and if he’s admitted, maybe the issue is more serious than your own. No one can know that but him and his family and his doctors. At least, no one ought to know that but those people.
The assholes are going to mock him. They’re going to say “the other guy wouldn’t have done anything like this.” They’re going to shame him. Everything about everyone is shamefodder because that’s the world we live in. This won’t be any different.
Oh, look, Fetterman’s office released a statement, so the report is based on a public disclosure. And look, right there between the lines, he and his wife are not very real happy about the public statement. That’s why his wife asked for “privacy.”
Which only goes to show, the real issue here really is the stigma. Inevitably someone’s going to hold up this man’s mental health as a reason to mock him and question his ability to be a Senator.
Well, what’s there to do about it?
“Head to a computer and write” wound up being my answer.
My Story, Briefly
I think I realized that I was kinda-sorta-depressed at some level about ten years ago. I thought it was because of external factors. Dissatisfaction with where my career was. And I felt guilty about feeling that way, because I was surrounded by people who genuinely cared about me, who did things to improve my professional experiences when they didn’t have to. And despite recognizing that, I still felt listless and disengaged.
Because the problem wasn’t the work. The problem was within me. I wasn’t equipped to recognize that fact. It was easier to blame other things, other people. Now I realize that was not fair. Now I realize that this was depression, lying.
I’m sure now that my depression played a substantial role in eroding my marriage. The divorce came as the last of several very bad life events within about a twelve-month period of time, each of which would independently have catalyzed what was already going on in my brain by whatever causes depression.
Divorces, of course, are particularly depressing events. The first time I tried therapy in the wake of the divorce, the intake sheet had a question: “Is there a particular event that brings you here? 1. Job loss; 2. Divorce/Breakup; 3. Other ____.” Missing from the list? Among other things, “death.” That told me something about what the therapist actually saw and heard in hands-on practice.
My initial experience with therapy was… suboptimal. The emotional wounds I sought to heal were too profound, too fresh. My therapist wasn’t a particularly good fit for me, but was literally the only mental health professional in my area taking on new patients. I took what I could get. And I didn’t really understand what mental health therapy was supposed to do, and I felt kind of ashamed to be getting it. I now know that it’s an incremental thing, it doesn’t help a lot or all at once, but the insights and small mental and emotional connections build up over time.
Ultimately I summoned up some will to alter my circumstances, and changed what my life had become. Regardless of how much I liked the people at my workplace, I had to make a shift in my professional path. Regardless of having a lot of good friends around me, living in the same area I’d grown up in was not healthy for me; I needed to be somewhere else. I quit my job and took a new one in a different area. Ultimately I moved to Portland, where I am now, and soon enough went into business for myself. I’ve built a new life for myself here, one that mostly makes me happy.
And I’m still taking therapy for my depression. Which is a bit of a financial strain, but I won’t do without it. Because I’m not kinda-sorta-depressed, I’m for-real-actually-depressed. And that’s something that needs to coexist with being happy. That may be the most extraordinary thing I’ve learned: a generally happy life (particularly when happiness is defined in Aristotelian terms) can be punctuated by periodic episodes of depression.
Here’s some more of what I’ve learned.
Danger
Profound depression, particularly acute episodes that strike with high intensity, can be treated therapeutically. I suspect an acute, intense strike is what’s going on with Senator Fetterman because he was hospitalized and that’s kind of a big deal. I’ll not speculate about what the contents of that episode were, and confine myself to nothing that Fetterman perceived what was going on, or at least enough of it, such that he reached out for help.
Which is exactly what he should have done. And that’s exactly what you should do if you find yourself in such circumstances.
Why? Depression can kill. When you call around to find mental health assistance, you get voice mails that deal with suicidal ideation in very direct terms. Lots of suicide attempts happen when people are stricken with the feelings of sadness, hopelessness, and most of all powerlessness that pervade such a moment. Sir Winston Churchill spoke of those moments when the black dog came to visit him:
I don’t like standing near the edge of a platform when an express train is passing through…I like to stand right back and if possible get a pillar between me and the train. I don’t like to stand by the side of a ship and look down into the water. A second’s action would end everything. A few drops of desperation.
This isn’t suicidal ideation, exactly, but that kind of feeling does kind of flirt with it.
As I struggled to put my depressive episodes in their place (because they won’t ever go away, it’s about management and not defeat) I’d find myself in that same moment Sir Winston describes. Except I found it with heights. I’d look over the railing on a bridge and see how far above the ground or river below I was. In a flash, I’d realize it would only take a quick, easy jump to be on the other side of the rail, and gravity would take care of the rest. It’d be terrifying for a couple of seconds, and then…
And then it would be unimaginably horrible. Come on. There’s no guarantee at all death would be instantaneous. There could be a lot of pain. And the world would go on without me. There’d be a lot of people who would miss me once I was gone. Family, friends, clients. There’d be all the things I haven’t done yet that I’d never do.
Moreover, I’m not a believer in any flavor of the supernatural. I don’t believe you get a do-over, a second life, a reincarnation, an afterlife. There’s nothing for you or I after death extinguishes consciousness. To the point here: death doesn’t lead to something better in the great beyond. There’s only the void. Your belief system may vary from that, but this is mine. And it’s why what’s below the bridge has never been attractive no matter how depressed I got.
Worse yet, I might survive the impact. Undoubtedly with terrible, permanent injuries. No part of my body would be spared injury, not even the cognitive centers of my brain, raising the terrifying specter of losing my very identity to sudden deceleration trauma. Looking over that rail, I’d always think “There’s nothing good waiting for me below this bridge,” and keep on walking. I’ve always been very certain of how bad that fall and its aftermath would be.
But still, I had looked down, and I had thought about it, even if only for a second or two. Is that suicidal ideation? I don’t think so, at least not the kind that mental health professionals worry about. That’s because I don’t imagine, even for a millisecond, any advantage to anyone would be realized by my going over that rail. But if you do, I beg of you, please immediately call 988.
Deception
The second thing I’ve realized about depression is related to this first point. The way depression can kill you is with deception. Depression lies. Worse, it lies to you in your own voice.
In addition to telling you the lie that you’d be better off dead, depression tells you that you don’t have the power to do much about the things that are making you feel bad. Depression tells you that you’re at fault for all the things that aren’t right with your life. You wish you had more money? Of course you do, you’re a loser who isn’t living up to your potential. Your romantic life isn’t what you’d prefer? That’s because you’re unattractive and unlovable and that’s never going to change and only ever get worse. Staying home alone at night playing Skyrim (in 2023? Come on Burt, get a new game!) when everyone else is out having fun? Well, that makes sense, because after all, nobody really likes you, your so-called friends just haven’t figured out yet how to shake you out of their social lives, but you should believe they are trying. (Also, clearly, you suck at video games.)
Now, if you hear me say it, your instant response is surely, that’s a steaming pile of crap, that it simply can’t be true and it flies in the face of all available evidence. Maybe that’s easy for you to say. You don’t have a little demon constantly mocking you in your head with those insulting lies all the time. If like me, you do have such a demon plaguing you, it can be hard to remember that the demon is really so many milliliters of foul, brackish chemicals accumulated in your brain, playing havoc with your interpretation of the world around you. It isn’t always effortless to find the ability to purge those chemicals,1 that you might see the world with clearer, kinder, eyes than the demon’s.
We all have self-doubt and anxieties about our own self-perceived inadequacies, of course. But if you aren’t depressive, take away from this essay the knowledge that your depressed friends and neighbors hear those kinds of self-loathing statements in their own heads often. That’s a frequent experience of depression. A steady diet of it periodically creeps up out of the unconscious and can from time to time govern someone’s generalized emotional posture. It sets up a negative feedback loop making it ever-harder to cleanse the brain of despair.
Degree
It seems that everyone has thoughts like these from time to time, and it’s not always easy to tell when and to what degree those kinds of thoughts are caused by depression. Which means depression and non-depression differ from one another by a matter of degree. This means that if you experience these sorts of emotions, you aren’t unusual, you’re “normal.” So it is now and will forever be difficult to measure just how common depression is. It can be hard for anyone, depressive or not, to tell if they’re actually depressed or if just running through a low point.
In those low points, my ability to function diminishes. My energy and motivation levels feel low; I move slower. My focus is not as sharp as I’d like. It’s harder to fall asleep, stay asleep, and get deep enough into sleep that it rejuvenatives. Food can be a temporary comfort, but it’s as often not an interesting one and it can take a conscious reminder to even seek it out rather than just sit there and be hungry. Stresses from the outside world tax and wound my ego more deeply. Unpleasant memories become painful, painful memories become unbearable. Humor deadens. Libido decreases. Most of all, my belief that things will improve, particularly things that really are issues I should be dealing with, is sapped from me. What I want is to withdraw, be alone, and to find a way to silence the demons in my head shouting their insults at me. A darker, quieter room to do this in is preferably to a brighly-lit, well-decorated one filled with music. I don’t want my mood elevated when I’m like this.
Like Sir Winston, when I need to, I can rise to the occasion despite my brain being a little bit out of whack. Usually it takes something like an imminent deadline or an appointment of some sort. I can dig down into the reserves and use fear or shame as a motivator to get moving, and get the thing that absolutely has to get done, done. After that, it’s a crash down to a place worse than where I started. Only a few times since I’ve learned to pay attention to these things have I found myself absolutely unable to do something immediately needful. And never yet in the professional context anything worse than missing and then needing to reschedule a potential new client meeting, thank the Lawyer Gods. (One can only imagine how many oh-shit-gotta-feel-bad-later put-out-the-fire-right-now moments Sir Winston had to deal with.)
As constellations of depressive symptoms go, what I’m describing here is generally on the mild side. Some people get it much worse than me.
There are people who experience bursts of psychosis when their brain chemicals get out of whack. Many people express their depression through inappropriate aggression, which sometimes advances into physical violence. These can become more significant and prevalent if other mental health issues are also present. Some people find that antidepressant medication is helpful. My own experience with that sort of thing was brief and awful, I’ve never had worse nightmares than those three nights, and I don’t actually care to address that particular part of my journey further because even years later, those very dark memories still haunt me.
Hopefully this means two things to you, my friend the non-depressive reader. You don’t and can’t know how bad it is in someone else’s head; and, to believe you’ll never find yourself with a black dog of your own would be near the heights of arrogance. Depression’s seeds rest within all of us and yes, that includes you; for some, issues of genetics, stress, brain chemistry, environment, substance use, or trauma can catalyze it and bring it to the fore. When you hear about someone, perhaps a celebrity or perhaps an acquaintance, suiciding or attempting it, I hope your response will be compassionate and humble.
Stigma
Thus, our society attaches moral opprobrium to qualities like laziness, sensitivity to insult, doubt, self-control, and particularly in men, outward displays of emotional vulnerability. Depression can be seen as manifesting in those things. The very word “depression” implies an emotional vulnerability that men, in particular, are supposed to be “strong” and never demonstrate.
Western monotheistic religions condemn suicide as sinful, and I’ve read multiple essays condemning suicides as cowardly and intentionally cruel to the survivors. And suicide and depression are associated. I posit that even if most of the readers of this essay (like me) not even have been born when it happened, Sylvia Plath’s suicide, resulting from the major depression she suffered much of her life, looms large in contemporary culture because it became a significant global media event, a lodestar from which reports of subsequent suicides were modeled. The already-famous poet was only thirty years old in 1963 when she took her own life. The stories of her death find shame in her suicide, interpreting it as succumbing to emotional frailty and callous, if not cruel, to her children who were in the house when she did it.
It sets the stage for a heart-wrenchingly long list of other, more recent suicides of public figures. Suffice to say that depression surely played a role in at least a majority of these.
We ought to be able to accept that the brain is like any other part of the body. Things can go wrong with it. When they do, you get help getting them back to where you want them to be. You wouldn’t feel very much shame if your arm were broken and you needed a doctor’s help to re-set the bone and get you taped and casted up to heal.
Why, then, should you (or Senator Fetterman) or I feel shame about it? Or about needing and getting some help putting the mind in balance?
Yet I do. Writing and offering up this essay has been particularly difficult for me. Why I’ve started and stopped writing on this subject repeatedly for years now. Normally I feel pretty fearless as a writer, even when writing about things that have hurt me. But this? I feel real vulnerability. To confess even fleeting, always-rejected, never-acted-upon thoughts of looking over the edge of that bridge is about the most intimate thing about myself I’ve ever published, here or anywhere else. It’s more than a bit embarrassing.
It’s why I reacted so viscerally to seeing this news about Senator Fetterman. Such an invasion of his privacy to blast this all over the news! The idea that someone, like myself, should have this deeply personal thing exposed and castigated by his political opponents for the purpose of shame (for what subject matter is not these days?) angered me.2
There oughtn’t be stigma attached to mental health issues at all. Depression, a relatively common condition, is one that ought to be most easily accepted free of stigma, precisely because there really are a lot of people out there who have it.
Ought and is are so frequently different things. We’ll see how it plays out for Senator Fetterman. As for me and this essay? There’s nothing for it now but to trust in your empathy.
Please call 988 before you start doing something drastic that you won’t be able to reverse. There is hope, even if it’s sometimes hard to see.
Yes, there is.
- Even a casual glace through recent psychiatric scholarship casts significant doubt on last decade’s conventional wisdom that an imbalance of seratonin reabsorption blockers in the brain are a root cause of depression. Depression’s material etiology is almost certainly complex, and definitely not yet well-understood.
- Ironically, of course, this essay is a complete waiver of my own privacy. But at least I chose to disclose these things about myself, arrogantly hoping I might educate people and mold their reactions to future stories dealing with depression, hopefully in the direction of compassion.
You sir are both thoughtful and courageous. Thank you for leading us through this analysis. It will help someone somewhere.Report
I’m glad you got through what you got through and came out the other side.
When it comes to Fetterman, I mostly think “Poor guy… he’d be happier doing something else. He’d have the elbow room to be happier doing something else.”Report
I don’t know, Jaybird. Maybe not. Maybe he hates the depression but loves the job?
Depression is caused by your condition in life less than most believe, which is something Burt was trying to get at.Report
Yeah, but I also looked at the “building a new life for myself” part and thought that that might be part of a solution as well. Is it that unlikely that Fetterman would be happier as the assistant manager of a bait shop in the Upper Peninsula?
Depression may not be caused by life experiences but it sure as heck can be exacerbated/alleviated by them. Every single story I’ve heard about politicians in Washington makes me think something to the effect of “that sounds like a truly horrid way to live” and even the glowing ones about the glowing people who thrive in the circumstances (like, there was a story about Charlie Rangel who was a guy who loved pressing the flesh, walking around, and he did stuff like “remember names” which may not be a perfect indicator of sincerity but it’s up there) make me think “that ain’t for me and that ain’t for anybody I know”.
The upside of Fetterman’s personal aesthetics is that they make him look like a guy you’d like to hang out with around the poker table and “have a beer with”. The downside of them is that they hint that he’s the kind of guy who would go to DC and immediately be overwhelmed by how absolutely awful the place is.Report
I’ve been thinking, lately, that it’s inconvenient that the things that make me feel satisfied are also things that are stressful and difficult to do. There are probably a lot of other people out there like that. Would it solve our problem if we just stopped doing the hard stuff?Report
Eh, I go for jogs and I *HATE* jogging.
But I love having jogged.
However, there are hard things that aren’t like that.Report
Well, right, I was thinking mainly of cognitive and emotional labor. There was a study recently that showed people would rather experience physical pain (like a quick shock) rather than undertake a task with a high cognitive load.
But to keep society running, many people have to do those tasks constantly.
There’s a growing school of thought that it’s abuse to require people to work for a living. But if people didn’t *have* to do unpleasant, challenging, stressful tasks, that often involve dealing with unpleasant people, why would they? And those tasks can really grind a person down, so that they do hover for a moment at high edges. Or for other types of people, instead use various substances that take their minds off the unpleasantness.
Most of the tenants I evict I don’t feel sorry for, and that’s because their lives don’t require them to think much, or deal with people they don’t like, and therefore I think they have an overall higher quality of life than I do. That’s my feeling in general about the underclass. Money is my consolation prize for having to deal with them and their champions.
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Hey Jaybird, are there any studies that show people with jobs like bait shop manager are less depressed, or less likely to suicide, than people with jobs like Congressperson?
I kind of assumed that, but can’t think of any evidence to support the theory other than my own prejudices. I don’t know any bait shop managers. I don’t know any congresspeople well.
I do know a whole lot of lawyers and other professionals. And, while I’ve known a bunch with depression/anxiety, and substance abuse issues, I haven’t known any who actually completed suicide. Just a few recently who died of the effects of long-term substance abuse in middle age. Report
I kinda get into this with one of my follow up comments:
The upside of Fetterman’s personal aesthetics is that they make him look like a guy you’d like to hang out with around the poker table and “have a beer with”. The downside of them is that they hint that he’s the kind of guy who would go to DC and immediately be overwhelmed by how absolutely awful the place is.
There’s nothing wrong with being a dog in the middle of a dog park. It’s likely to be fun! It’s probably bad to be a fish in the middle of a dog park.
This should not be seen as a criticism of either dogs or of fish. Nor to imply that one is better than the other.Report
Burt, this is why men of a certain demographic (mid 30s to late 40s) tend to “zero out” themselves. Recently divorced (women initiate 80% of all divorces), shattered, of the opinion “they are no longer useful”. Their whole life a house of cards when the foundation (marriage) winks out. In my case, I put all my energy and time into my marriage, dropping friends who faded away. As the divorce moved forward, I had no one to talk to but my sister in law (my soon to be ex wife’s sister). Starting over is a bitch. I was fat, and only had a cat to love- and most dating that I did never amount to anything. I didn’t KNOW how to date. That was 10 years ago.
Yeah, I did think, while on a trip to Ireland, knowing that when we returned, we’d be starting up divorce proceedings, that it might just be easier to just walk up to the top of the Cliffs of Moher and not stop…..just take another step….a long fall and then blackness. That’d show her! I was still in a good enough place to realize that was a stupid idea…..
Only in the past few years have I started to feel a real change….in confidence, in attitude. I started doing jujitsu because I wanted to lose weight and get into shape. But only recently have I have been developing relationships with guys at the gym. After “hanging out with the dudes” I realized that I needed that more….and many of them told me the same: Men have little time for “guy time” because of marriage, kids, work, etc. Truth is you F’ing need to MAKE time. Every guy in the group that was over 40 said as much.
I don’t think about zeroing out myself anymore. I look forward to life. Yep, I still play video games, but jujitsu has given me more of a positive attitude and a stronger will….to take the challenge NOT to wallow in despair, numbing myself with booze and food. I have friends who value me in their lives and I’m better “dealing with women”. So for all those guys out there who thing/feel they have nothing left, go build it….you can do it. Every day you make progress, whether it be large or small, the slope’s positive. Keep pushing forward…..IT GETS BETTER.Report
I’m glad you didn’t take that extra step on those cliffs, and equally glad you found a way to not be in the headspace where such a thing comes in to view. it got better for you, it got better for me, it’ll get better for a third party reader too.Report
Are people the answer? It seems they should be. But I was kind of upset, and pissed off, to find out that a lawyer who drank himself to death (I mentioned him to you a few months ago) actually had an attractive, younger girlfriend with a good career. So it wasn’t lack of a good woman that led to his self-inflicted, middle-aged demise.
Maybe it just meant one more person to worry about disappointing?Report
To the depressed person, “But you have so much!” followed by a laundry list of that person’s blessings, is sometimes of little help. The demon finds ways to turn that around.
As in: Oh, you’re a successful lawyer with good money, a nice home, and a clever, attractive girlfriend? She’s using you for the money and when she finds out how little of it there actually is and that you’re a gigantic faker who didn’t really earn it, she’s outta here, man. She wants a REAL man, a better-looking man closer to her own age. You’re just a way station for her.
Now, as with the example in the OP, there’s no reason to think this is actually true. But it’s what the depressive hears, it’s how the objective evidence gets lensed through urgentle, unhumorous self-deprecation into anxiety and despair.
Depression lies.
Substance abuse compounds this.
Are people the answer? Yes, in part — particularly to the extrovert. But remember, going through life as a depressive is about managing the depression, not “solving” it. The sadness and discomfort and grief that are baseline responses to certain inevitable events can be managed. For some, it takes strong measures and medications; for others, it takes “mere” mindfulness (which can seem an effort while in the throes). But also recognize: the inevitable will occur, and you will, and must, respond to it somehow.Report
You know what — we’re all about mid-life crisis age, too. Heh. I believe that’s really a thing.Report
Some of us are well past mid-life crisis age :^)Report
Well then, good on you for making it through. 🙂Report
The rough patch I mentioned elsewhere in this thread is, with our kids’ support, moving my wife of 42 years into a memory care unit. The blunt version is that, like I waited three months longer than I should have to put down dying dogs that were suffering, I waited three months longer than I should have to do this. At least IMO, nothing that was any sort of mid-life crisis came close to this degree of difficulty.Report
Yes, that sounds like an actual crisis, with no modifier. I think of “mid-life crisis” as meaning a time when things hit emotionally harder than perhaps they would at a different stage. Report
Oh man, I’m so sorry to read this. My heart goes out to you and your entire family. I hope she is comfortable and has compassionate, attentive staff looking after her while you and your family can’t be there. Know that you have friends here in this forum.Report
I question the “initiate” part of the “women initiate 80 percent of divorces” statement. I think it’s more accurate to say women are the ones, traditionally, who *file* for tje divorce. That’s different. It doesn’t mean they’re the ones who gave up first or wanted it more, just that they were tasked with the legal chore.
And, I suspect, just based on my anecdotal observations, that those data are old (I first heard the stats 30 years ago), and things are different now. Report
Michael Rosenfeld seems to be the main researcher on this topic, and apparently he bases his work on interviews. The stats seem to hold steady around 70%.Report
Worth noting: Prof. Rosenfeld distinguishes between marriages and non-marital heterosexual relationships. Men are roughly equally likely to initiate a breakup in a non-marital situation; in formalized heterosexual marriages, the number Pinky reports is correct, and that seems to hold longitudinally steady over the time frames studied (going back to the 1970’s, when no-fault divorce became a significant legal trend across the states).Report
One of my daughters suffers from depression.
She didn’t realize most people don’t feel like there’s no point in living. There was a lot of really sad other parts to that, no point in doing school work, no point in getting out of bed, no point in making friends.
She suffered in silence for years. I found out about all this right before we moved.
The therapy was probably useful for the first ten meetings, but it was a lot less useful than the drug the doc put her on.
That drug is a life changer. If she’s properly medicated she has hope in and for the world. If she’s not then she doesn’t.
They start you off at half correct dosage for a few months because the side effects can be seriously bad. Then they check you and increase and repeat. I do wonder what would have happened if I hadn’t known to ask for that drug. I have another relative who has depression and takes it.
A year later she doesn’t have depression, she has friends, her grades are good, and the pills cost about ten cents a day.
Depression is a physical disorder.Report
One medication might work, another work better but with bad side effects, another do nothing, and another nearly crush you. Heck, you can see that kind of variation from different dosages. I wish people didn’t rule out or give up on meds.
And always a reminder: just like starting meds will affect your brain chemistry, so will changing doses and stopping them. Don’t do this without talking to a doctor.Report
Yes, all of that. There are scary potential side effects and we’re deep into “under the care of a doctor” territory.
I assume she’s stuck taking these for the rest of her life.
Having said that, given how vastly it improves her life, it’s well worth the ten cents a day.Report
One of the things that helped me through my dark days was stoicism, the understanding that tragedy and suffering are normal and not aberrant events.
Which is why I prefer terms like melancholy to the more clinical terms, because it places our suffering on the spectrum of the ordinary, next to joy and anger and fear and grief.
This helped, because often depression becomes self-reinforcing, with the idea that if it is aberrant, then one must be deficient or guilty in some way, causing another cycle of self-loathing and shame.
The idea that suffering is normal implies that it is also temporary, something one can travel through and get past.
And ultimately not necessarily the result of bad behavior or deficient character but simply the result of exterior events. And feelings of melancholy are actually not just normal but completely rational and justified, even if unproductive, and can therefore be changed when circumstances shift.Report
“the understanding that tragedy and suffering are normal and not aberrant events.”
Happiness is not an end state. It lies in the journey. Buddha was correct: Life is suffering.Report
I’m going through a particularly rough stretch right now, and am buoyed by pieces like this that suggests there’s something worth while on the other side. Thanks for publishing it, Burt.Report
Never doubt that. Some patches are rough because they’re rough, and it’s ok to feel that to a reasonable degree. When they’re paralyzingly rough, or when things are rough and there’s no good reason, then it doesn’t hurt to check in with a therapist.
I think a lot of the value of a therapist is having someone look inside your thoughts so that you don’t have to. Depression can be – and I say this without any judgment – a kind of involuntary selfishness. The person thinks about his thoughts constantly, for the same reason a person thinks about an injured limb: they’re in pain. Having an outsider say “those two thoughts are understandable; that one’s cray-cray; go play basketball” can give someone permission to take time off from patrolling his own brain.Report
Thank you for writing this, man.Report
Thanks for writing a thoughtful essay on this; I think it’s great that you’re taking eudaimonia as a guiding principle.
Naturally I clicked the link on Aristotle and enjoyed it a lot. But, because this it OT and this is what we do, I can’t stop myself from making a couple of non-depression related comments. Take them in the spirit of social comity. 🙂
“Outside of philosophy departments, where neo-Aristotelian thinkers such as Philippa Foot and Rosalind Hursthouse have championed his virtue ethics as an alternative to utilitarianism and Kantian approaches, it is not as well known as it should be.”
Hey, Philippa Foot is the Trolley Problem philosopher! Which is cool, but I’m a little mystified how the intellectual history implies that the revival started and ended with her. She’s part of a formidable group of women philosophers including GEM Anscombe (a fellow at Sommerville). Anscombe wrote the bruising “Modern Moral Philosophy” paper in 1958 which coined the term Consequentialism. Seriously, an amazing read for it’s brutal and rare academic candor; and a must read for all interested in Ethics and/or Intellectual History – especially Virtue Ethics. Considered by some to be the best academic journal article ever (ok, the bar is low). Certainly an article who’s style will never be repeated.
And, I have it as first-hand knowledge from the man himself that the Somerville set directly influenced Alasdair MacIntyre and the ongoing ‘revival’ of Aristotelian virtue ethics that continues to this day. Though saying ‘revival’ and ‘Aristotle’ only makes sense from a sort of disenchanted Kantian world view as Aristotle’s ethics has never really gone away; just obscured to greater or lesser degrees.
And thus concludes my diversion into the Somerville set and modern Virtue Ethics.Report
I would have said my adoption of Aristotle was my own, that my education revealed a good spectrum of schools of thought and I made up my own mind from there. But of course my teachers influenced me. Were they Somersetians? If so (or if not), they didn’t say.Report
To be sure; The Somerville Set are simply interesting. Anscombe in particular; curiously she was friends with Wittgenstein and one of his literary executors. She’s certainly not forgotten among intellectual historians, but there’s a lot to plumb there still.Report
Hi Burt, great piece and thanks for writing this. There is always help out there for all of us but depression makes it so much harder to find. Like you i’m a non believer. I’ve had some of those “what would happen if?” thoughts but not in a long time. But i very much still remember them. I haven’t had those thoughts when I’ve had the worst things in my life happen to me ( death of a child) but holy hell i had plenty of other dark thoughts.
Men aren’t really taught well how to go through dark periods unless we just happen to be an ex Navy SEAL down on our luck but ready to methodically and coldly kill dozens of generic henchmen then take out the boss in the service of a noble cause that’s also a hottie. Talking and connection is what we need. Given i’m a mental health pro by trade i’m big on therapy. It’s only one small part of getting life together but what it can do is unique.
I think of this from Stephen King a lot since early 2021 when i life got harsh for me for a while.
““No one can tell what goes on in between the person you were and the person you become. No one can chart that blue and lonely section of hell. There are no maps of the change. You just come out the other side.” The Stand
I went through that blue and lonely section at times alone and at times with the help i needed. But i got through. Until the next hard part but that is life. It feels good to have words that hit me like lightening to help me understand in a global way , a poetic way, what is happening since the dry tech words of therapy don’t do that. We need a lot of things.
Good for you for leaving that section behind you.
Trips to Alaska can be great for a person mental health.Report
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The Burt I’ve come to know via your writings is a person I like a lot. A keen observer of the world, and who is strongly self-aware. As it turns out, this makes you a bit more vulnerable to depression.
Before I expand on that, I want to note that I’ve had a struggle with depression my whole life. It has very little to do with how talented and accomplished I am. In fact, when people say things like, “But you have (X, Y or Z that they don’t have)” it kind of makes things worse for me. Because they don’t get it.
I have developed a lot of very solid skills that keep me out of the pit, and can get me back to my nominal state. This is good. I’ll never be rid of it, though. This is not a “cure” situation, it’s a “manage” situation.
I recall reading a book written by Martin Seligmann, former president of the APA, and a foremost researcher on depression. In it he said that once did an evaluation of how accurately people were able to tell when they didn’t have control over outcomes, and cross-referenced this with a scale for how depressed they were.
It turns out people who are mildly depressed are the best at discerning when they don’t have control over an outcome. They see the world the most clearly.
It seems like a cruel trick, doesn’t it?Report
Indeed. But I think they gain that clarity of vision by narrowing their focus. That, at least, was my experience.Report
I really appreciated reading this. You’re doing good work.Report
Burt,
You are an amazing person. I’m glad you’re here and so glad I had the great privilege of meeting you last summer.
Thank you for your courage in sharing this part of yourself.Report
Thank you to the whole community for your generous and compassionate responses. May your examples spread out into the world, that others may emulate you.Report
Burt, I have this theory that well-educated people who make it to this stage (late middle-aged, depressed) are the ones who don’t have the mental inclination or biological ability to *self-medicate* their distress.
Within the last year and a half, I learned three lawyers I knew (all roughly age peers) died recently, in their mid to late 40s, of substance-abuse related causes. Not overdoses though. Just causes related to long-term alcohol and/or substance overuse.
These men (all men) did have a long life, although they died too young. I like to think maybe they really enjoyed their decades of being high and drunk, but it just caught up with them.
Makes me ponder: At what point does an early exit stop being a tragedy? What else did those guys owe the world? And then, what do *we* owe it?
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Been reflecting upon this comment from you for much of the morning, because the relationship between…
… is hugely complicated but also substantially correlated. I wouldn’t call myself a substance abuser, but I do take a drink or two much more frequently than I did a decade ago and am quite conscious of the hazards that come with being a professional in a field where substance abuse can totally ruin not only the abuser but the substance abuser’s clients as well. Every bar association in the country requires CLE’s on the effects of substance abuse and protecting against them, and for a reason.
In California, the bar association created a resource called The Other Bar; in Oregon, the bar association’s cognate resource OAAP is more generalized in focus, and is staffed by attorneys who hold various kinds of counseling and social work accreditations. I definitely want to mention those resources and steer sister and brother members of the bar towards them. OAAP helped me find a therapist here in Oregon to help me with my depression, and I’m deeply grateful to the attorney-counselor I worked with to get there.
But to return to your story about colleagues and friends succumbing to substance abuse, I think I’ll call out a phrase from another author who sometimes posts here at OT, Dennis Sanders, and call the story “a tragedy born of many parents.” Recognizing that the origin of such tales is diverse and complex, I’m willing to bet that they have one thing in common, which was that the lawyers in question all probably failed to reach out for help, either sincerely or timely enough for it to do much good.
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About the not seeking help theory: I have no evidence you’re wrong, and some that you’re right. Confirming for either guy would mean bugging people more than I’m comfortable doing.
Divorce: Two out of the three were never married. That’s odd, for straight men that age from intact, upper-middle-class families, with UC educations. (All three were UC grads who grew up in OC.)
But the third, the one I knew least, had divorced a few years back from his law school girlfriend. He was well-known enough that a major paper wrote a news obit for him. Some friends were candid about urging him to get help, and saying he was “sick.” They seemed to imply alcohol was part of it, but not the whole thing.
The one I knew best, for three years in law school, mocked the idea of self-introspection. But he seemed happy just playing video games, hanging out with Cal undergrad friends occasionally, following the Lakers, eating fast food, and doing cocaine. Didn’t seem concerned at all with career after law school the way the rest of us were. We just figured he was immature. Was it really depression? I never knew him to break down, or sink into any kind of different mood. He was always just immaturely sarcastic. Would therapy or legal drugs have done anything about that? If he weren’t dead, I wouldn’t even feel right calling it a problem.
The third one, well, he had “psychiatric history of anxiety” in the medical records I saw. (Coroner’s office messed up the redaction.) Nothing about depression, though, or hospitalization or suicide attempts. A couple years before he died, he’d been ordered into an outpatient rehab program that included individual counseling, due to a bad DUI. He had trouble completing the program, but finally did. Died anyway.
But then again, none of these guys are counted as suicides. Contributory, self-inflicted issues, but not suicide. In fact, I can’t think of any actual suicide lawyers I’ve known. Maybe we just take slower routes.
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