Abandoned & Malignant Hearts: Life In Prison For Murdering Ahmaud Arbery

Andrew Donaldson

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  1. Burt Likko says:

    It can be easy to lose sight of how severe and harsh a sentence of life is. It is a taking away not only of liberty — terrible enough a punishment that our forefathers made treason against King and Country to prevent its abuse — but beyond that it takes away the very hope of ever gaining liberty again. These men have lost their freedom and they have lost all reason to hope. Deservedly so, for they are murderers.Report

  2. InMD says:

    I’m wondering where the correctives are on the articles I kept seeing lamenting the racial make-up of the jury and predicting miscarriage of justice.Report

  3. Oscar Gordon says:

    Just in case we thought this was the last we’d see such behaviorReport

    • Brandon Berg in reply to Oscar Gordon says:

      Why would anybody have thought that we would never see another road-rage homicide?Report

      • InMD in reply to Brandon Berg says:

        Another distinction is that the shooter has been charged with murder. The big issue with Arbery was the nepotism and incompetence of the local prosecutor who was apparently willing to let the whole thing go until cell phone footage came out.Report

        • Philip H in reply to InMD says:

          The big issue with Arbery was the nepotism and incompetence of the local prosecutor who was apparently willing to let the whole thing go until cell phone footage came out.

          This remains a valid criticism of law enforcement in the south.Report

        • Mike Schilling in reply to InMD says:

          Devil’s advocate: what was the chance of a conviction before the cell phone video?Report

          • InMD in reply to Mike Schilling says:

            Never easy to say on a counter-factual. I think it’s fair to conclude that it becomes tougher, just like any prosecution would with the loss of such highly incriminating evidence.

            However I don’t think it suddenly becomes impossible as long as the case is still being taken seriously. Assuming everything else happened the same way I think they would lean very hard on the guy who recorded it (or in this counter-factual merely witnessed/encouraged it). Offer him a deal to turn on the other two. That kind of thing happens all the time. Get away driver gets a slap on the wrist to get the robbers, or the accomplice to get the trigger man, etc.

            Now maybe they all keep their mouths shut but experience suggests probably not.Report

  4. CJColucci says:

    No one would have prosecuted this case if Arbery had been white.Report

    • Burt Likko in reply to CJColucci says:

      If Aubery had been white he wouldn’t have been shot. Them yahoos would not have shot a white man who did what Aubery did. They’d have called for the police to deal with White Aubery.Report

      • CJColucci in reply to Burt Likko says:

        Sorry, there’s no sarcasm font. You’re absolutely right, of course, which is the point. But some folks on the Kim Potter thread think otherwise.Report

        • Brandon Berg in reply to CJColucci says:

          This comment is bad, and you should feel bad. If you can’t understand the difference between this and the Potter case, that reflects very poorly on your critical thinking skills.Report

          • CJColucci in reply to Brandon Berg says:

            I feel fine, thanks. Over on the other thread I’m still waiting for a substantive defense of the proposition that Potter was prosecuted only because her victim was black, and that she would have skated if he had been white.Report

      • Greg In Ak in reply to Burt Likko says:

        If he was white they would have nodded or waved and drove on. As a generic white guy runner i’ve been in some weird places at odd times and nobody has ever done more then wave. I’m sure a couple kept an eye on me. But i never saw it and nobody has ever said squat to me. On my bike ive gotten yelled at for….urm….riding a bike in the bike lane but who can blame the maniac for that.Report