19 thoughts on “Saturday Morning Gaming: Paradox Interactive Admits It

  1. This always happens to me when I read something too quickly. I thought it said the old CEO would “stay for a period to ensure a good hangover”. I wish them the best, but man their games are hard to get into. A Sid Meier game can be anything from a bunny slope to a black diamond, depending on how far you want to dig into it.Report

    1. Yeah some games have tutorials. Crusader Kings 2’s tutorial was, basically, the game putting its cigarette out in your eye. Paradox’s other games I’ve played weren’t that bad but they sure as heck weren’t good. You basically have to research the games independently to learn how to play them.Report

      1. OK, that phrasing is as good as I’ve ever read.

        The line in my head is “Paradox Games: Created BY people who understand Paradox Games, FOR people who understand Paradox Games”.Report

  2. Hmm, the titles I own from Paradox appear to be Crusader Kings II, Hearts of Iron IV, Surviving Mars (no expansion, tho), and of course, Stellaris.

    I ended up playing CK the least, mostly because I am not emotionally fit to murder my son because he isn’t fit to rule, and that’s what you need to do to be successful. Yes, it’s a game, and I don’t judge other people for it.

    But I like the 4X ish nature of them. AND, yes, they can be very tricky to figure out how everything works. HOI4 is the worst in this regard, I think.Report

  3. Not a fan of Paradox… should be a fan of Paradox… but playing Paradox games makes me not a fan.

    Mentioned that I got New World MMO… seems about 1/3 finished. Combat is clunky… and weapon based skills are a mash-up of Guild Wars and Elder Scrolls. Sword & Board seems to make sense, plus the 2h skills and Bow… Rapier is missing Main Gauche, the Musket has Traps(?!) and Hatchet(!) is missing, well, the other Hatchet. Makes it hard to get into your weapon choices.

    Seems to be mostly a crafting sim and the most fun I’ve had is just rolling through the woods gathering things. The quests are about 3-5 yrs out of date as they require you to activate them via a Quest Giver (how drool) rather than the new style of just enjoying the exploration and having the quest activate when do the thing the quest wants you to do. So a lot of running hither/yon but not in the good explory kind of way.

    Hoping they just throw billions at it to see what happens… but right now it shiped dated and clunky… I can only assume the networking/server tech is amazing.Report

  4. Oh, and in a bit of serendipity, Europa Universalis IV is the Epic Game store’s free game this week.

    So you can be reminded that you aren’t in the target audience for free this time.Report

    1. Interesting. I believe everyone that Paradox games are worth playing once you get past the hurdle. So, if you put one out for free, does that allow people to learn your game development style, and encourage them to purchase more? Or does it give everyone a low-investment chance to try the game and find it too confusing, thereby keeping them from ever buying another, without even the first purchase? I’d bet that people spend more time trying to figure out a pricier game because of the investment.

      The thing of it is, when you see a complex marketing problem like this, it’s tempting to say “I’m sure they worked all this out”. But given the state of the company’s management, who knows?Report

      1. Well, the Epic Store gives games away for One Week.

        So, like, this time next week? Tough Noogies. You’re going to have to bust out your credit card.

        And if you like the game… maybe you’d like some of the DLC? Could I interest you in Leviathan? Emperor? Dharma? Cradle of Civilization? Mandate of Heaven? Rights of Man? Mare Nostrum? The Cossacks? Common Sense? El Dorado? Art of War? Res Publica? Wealth of Nations? Conquest of Paradise?Report

          1. The best way would probably be a charismatic young person who gets excited talking about how to play it on Twitch.

            In the absence of that? “First Hit’s Free!” has a long tradition.Report

            1. Makes sense. I’ve noticed a lot of “getting back to Diablo 2” videos lately. It’s hard to beat the impact of an excited fanbase. Is there one for Paradox games? I know some people like them, and I certainly don’t keep track of every gamer trend out there, but when a certain level of buzz gets going it’s hard not to hear it.Report

      2. Crusader Kings 3 has gotten a lot more popularity outside of the Paradox bubble because of three major things –

        1.) They actually have improved the UI

        2.) It’s free on Game Pass, which means you can do the deep dive on learning it w/ out dumping $60 on a game that might be too much for you

        3.) CK 3 is much more a game about characters, while EU 4, Victoria, etc. are much more games about nations.Report

  5. Well, I am still playing Battle Tech. Not as much as I did a year ago. Love that game. They did a fantastic job of making the battle mechs and did good with the b-tach history.Report

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