The Final Stages of the Con: Donald Trump, Stolen Elections, and Delusion

Michael Siegel

Michael Siegel is an astronomer living in Pennsylvania. He blogs at his own site, and has written a novel.

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  1. Greginak says:

    Strong post. Trump would be Herb Tarlek if he hadn’t been born rich and connected. That was clear to me seeing him in NY and AC 30 years ago. To be conned you sort have to want to be conned. You want to believe in what you are being sold even if your BS detector is going off.

    Charisma and seeing through lies are a strange thing. Ive worked with people in divorces and custody disputes for years. So many times I’ve heard that their ex is super slick, a great liar and charismatic. Almost always when I meet the ex they are a bad obvious liar and more often then not a doofus. Not that being a doofus is bad but it ain’t slick or charismatic.Report

  2. Philip H says:

    You have a mostly solid analysis. But you left out two key parts of the Republican Party part of it. First, the Republican Party is getting from him what it wants, and has been working on since at least Reagan – circumstances allowing them to consolidate political power so that one party minority rule is cemented in the US. Second. the Republican Party knows full well he’s conning the masses and does not care because they believe that when the pitch forks come out – as history tell us they will – Republican Party politicians and operatives expect to be spared by the rampaging mobs.

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  3. Saul Degraw says:

    In which a non-liberal discovers Rick Perlstein’s The Long Con. I think there are three types of people going on in the GOP: smarts, marks, and smarks. Note these are ideas are not mine and come in a very disttiled summary of things that numerous people have said such as Yates Sexton on twitter and Paul Campos on LGM.

    1. The smarts are people who know the claims are false but are only in it for the money as long as they can and then it is on to the next scam. This might be the Cyberninja guys.

    2. The marks are the people who get taken in and really believe the election was stolen, etc. Lindell is here.

    3. The smarks ostensibly understand that Biden won the election but insist that “deeper truths” make any Democratic victory defacto invalid because they have a belief system/cosmology that labels Democratic victories as inherently invalid.

    What Trump and Trumpism, represent, whether people think it is polite to talk about or not, is the dying gasps of political and social conservatives, and white supremacists of various sorts. They see that younger generations are browner, more diverse, using descriptors which were barely mainstream 10 years ago or less. The New York Times discusses “thropples” and open relationships with ease. Plus “limited government” and Reganism are no longer the bee’s knees to most people under 45 or so because most of the under 45 cohort has a more friendly view of the welfare state. Plus you can add various freak outs about declining birth rates.

    So the conservative right-wing has latched onto Trumpism and various other methods as a way of continuing to rule without winning the votes. Or as David Frum noted yeara ago, conservatives had to choose between democracy and conservatism and they choose conservatism.

    The only thing which might be slightly unique is that a lot of Trump’s “appeal” to his fans is because he is not an uptight religious guy. He barely tried to be religious and is possibly the least churchy President ever. He represents a new breed of conservative politics which more or less is party hard conservatism. Boebert and Gaetz are other examples of the party hard conservative but this itself is still a kind of macho throwback to the 1980s and anger that homophobic slurs and hair metal sexism are not cool anymore.Report

  4. Chip Daniels says:

    I would dearly love for this to be the epitaph of Trump and Trumpism.

    But the comparison to religious hucksters is a good one, and shows that even when one is exposed and disgraced, the gullible flock to another one immediately.

    As has been said before, the vast base of the Republican Party, representing somewhere around 40% of the American voters and 50% of the Senate, want this con to continue, and are furiously writing laws to make it happen.

    The biggest danger we have right now is complacency, that there is some magic shield that protects American democracy from falling to authoritarian one party rule.

    Even if Trump himself vanishes tomorrow, there are the DeSantis’s, the Abbots, the Hawleys and Cruzes who will eagerly fill the role.Report

  5. InMD says:

    To me the biggest question is where does this go in the long term. The somewhat frightening reality is that there are and always have been lots of people in our polity that believe things, including some pretty mainstream ideas, that don’t hold up well under objective scrutiny or are outright false. Some of those things are pretty consequential (i.e. anthropogenic climate change isn’t well supported by science) and some turn out to be fleeting and forgotten as the context recedes into memory. I think a lot will depend on whether Trump is able to run in the GOP primary.Report

  6. Philip H says:

    to where the GOP resumes its role as the natural majority party of America.

    That should have come with a computer spit warning for its hilarity.

    Republicans have never been the majority party in the US. And while they are not yet at their modern low (under Ford and Carter), they are not trending up.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/party-id-trend/Report

  7. The party of Real American values

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    • Philip H in reply to Mike Schilling says:

      {snark} Unless they hung someone its all just protected speech. {/snark}Report

      • veronica d in reply to Philip H says:

        It is protected speech. The people who gathered outside the capitol did not break the law. That said, we can still judge them. We can despise them as people, and I do. They are the very worst of America. They were not, however, breaking the law.

        By contrast, the people who entered the capitol did break the law. They attempted to interfere with the democratic transfer of power. That’s a big deal. It is unvarnished fascism in the full sense of the word.

        These people don’t realize they’re the American version of brownshirts. That said, I wonder how many brownshirts fully understood what they were doing. They did it anyway, because fascism attracted them at some root level.Report

  8. veronica d says:

    The claim that Trump’s support derives from opposition to social change is not incompatible with this; it’s part of it. The social changes our society had gone through just in my lifetime — on LGBT rights, on social mores, on the economy, on technology — would be enough to disorient anyone. And those changes have come with an attitude that if you hesitate to accept them, it’s because you are ignorant, backward and/or bigoted.

    You’re lumping a few things together here, but we can look at them separately. But indeed, if someone opposes the advancement of LGBTQ rights, then they are bigoted. Obviously. That’s what the word means. Bigotry isn’t particularly complicated and doesn’t need to be whitewashed or treated as a quirk. It is what it has always been.Report

  9. Hodge says:

    Two things: Joe Biden never “doddered” in his life. The man actually thinks before he speaks and doesn’t tout himself as the savior to end all saviors. He’s far from perfect, but thank god he’s not Trump! Second thing: You overlooked the influence of white supremacy in all of this. The GOP has but one thing to offer its followers now: The potential for “white power” to take charge again. That is the engine behind most of their current push to retain their own power.Report

  10. Troy says:

    Considering the disaster of the Middle Eastern wars, some people knowing that Trump is a con-man still voted for him as the lesser of two evils, compared to Bush-Cheney neocons and Iraq War supporting Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, who have their own corrupt activities ignored in this article. Your Joe Manchin and his family aren’t much worse than Trump – https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/10/manchin-family-values/Report

  11. smintheus says:

    So the argument is that people who are easily conned by a well known con artist are not gullible, because they’re people? There’s really nothing to that argument. I think the author has conned himself into believing these marks are not gullible because he wants to believe they’re not gullible.

    Yes, most people realize that it’s embarrassing to admit you’ve been fooled. Sensible people admit it and try to fix any damage done. Fools deny the evidence of their own eyes.Report

    • Philip H in reply to smintheus says:

      It reminds one of the arguments that lower economic status conservatives vote routinely against their economic interests. Except they are convinced they do not because the politicians they support are believed to be pursuing policies that don’t harm them but harm “others.”Report

  12. Koz says:

    mod needed, comments goneReport

  13. JS says:

    I have long said that American Christianity began it’s decline the day Oral Roberts told his followers “Give me money or Jesus will take me home” and they paid. Already uncomfortably open to con-men and grifters, that opened up the floodgates wide — you could make real money fleecing the faithful, all from the comfort of a stage or mega-church podium.

    This? Either the GOP or American democracy died the instant you could claim an election was stolen and raise tens of millions, possibly hundreds of millions, for a “legal defense” that — as best I can tell, cost less than a million bucks, nation wide. Those lawsuits were (and I can’t remember who coined it) “Tweets with a filing fee” — never intended to succeed, based on nothing — existing solely to raise money off the gullible followers.

    And by god, did it raise money. And with the money, comes the grifters and con-men. You don’t need a valid case. You don’t even need a case good enough to survive a motion to dismiss. You can toss up crap so bad the even the friendliest Judge clearly resents the hours he had to spend reading the nonsense you spewed to the Court and wishes he could sanction you for it.

    You can — as Powell did — simply crowdsource your arguments to your followers, slap your name on the end, and file it and go back to laughing in the millions you raised for all that “work”.

    This delusion will continue — not just because there are a bunch of suckered marks out there who can’t face up to the fact that they got fleeced — but because the conmen made so very, very, VERY much money that they’re never going away. They’ll be ten times as many in 2024.Report

  14. Conrad says:

    Michael, for an astronomer you talk a lot of sense about a social matter. I have seen worse analyses by full blown social anthropologists and sociologists.Report