Naomi Osaka vs The French: Read It For Yourself

Andrew Donaldson

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  1. Philip H says:

    Good for her. I’d love to see all the other top seeded women walk out in support. I suspect that won’t happen, but every time something like goes on, it makes it just a tad easier for the next person.Report

  2. Oscar Gordon says:

    There were a couple of Seahawks players a few years back who refused to speak to media and got fined. I even remember one of them going over the contract, and doing the exact bare minimum.

    Still, there should be a mental health clause in such things.Report

  3. Reformed Republican says:

    It is not clear to me (and I could be overlooking it) whether this is something she gave notice of in advance, or if this was something that she sprang on them right before the tournament. It is a lot easier to make special accommodations if there is sufficient notice. If not, it’s understandable that the org would go by the existing rules with the possibility of changes being made for the future.Report

    • Philip H in reply to Reformed Republican says:

      Oh please. If she doesn’t want to be interviewed the only “accommodation” that needs to be made is more snacks for the press while they wait for the next player. The organization can make whatever decision they want in real time. They made a choice to be sticks in the mud. That’s on them.Report

      • Kazzy in reply to Philip H says:

        A major source of revenue for professional sports are media contracts. Those media contracts include things relating to media availability. If you want to be paid boatloads of money to play sports, you have to get on board with how those boatloads of money are generated.Report

        • Philip H in reply to Kazzy says:

          That’s fine, but it’s not the French Open that is skinned in that issue . . . and Nike seems fine with her so far…Report

          • Kazzy in reply to Philip H says:

            What are you talking about?

            The French Open paid out 38M Euros in prize money last year.

            Wiki lists the various TV contracts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Open#Television_coverage

            I don’t know the exact finances of the tennis organizations but suffice it to say much of the prize money comes from the TV contracts. And if part of those rights include access to the athletes at press conferences, well, guess what: that is part of the gig.

            She should have talked with tournament officials before entering. She didn’t. She broke her contractual obligations, was punished, and informed of what would happen if she did so again. She opted out.

            What do you think should have happened differently? The tournament should have told all their TV partners — all of whom want to see and hear from one of the best players in the sport — to just go kick rocks while collecting millions or bilions of dollars from them?Report

            • Kazzy in reply to Kazzy says:

              FTR, Osaka has made over $450K in tournament winnings from the French Open.Report

            • Philip H in reply to Kazzy says:

              She’s not the only, or best compensated or most famous female player there. The French Open likely lost exactly zero dollars from this. Hell they probably get more from the added reporting generated by the controversy . . . . And again her biggest sponsor Nike (which is where many professional athletes make their money) is fine with her actions.

              The French Open has and had a lot of options that would have satisfied its contract without fining her or essentially forcing her to withdraw. They choice to go in the opposite direction of all those choices.Report

              • Kazzy in reply to Philip H says:

                Actually, she was literally the highest earning female athlete ever last year.

                To your and Michael Cain below, I’m not arguing that the pressers themselves are money makers. But as is usually the case in most professional sports situations where the question is, “Why do they care if Athlete X does Non-Sport-Thing Y?” it is because someone is paying for that to happen.

                Yes, the tournament could have simply looked the other way. They could have done a lot of things. But they see her and all the other players’ participation in the press conferences as important and necessary.

                She has no obligation to play in the tournament and exercised her right to withdraw.

                Again, she could have avoided much of this by talking with them beforehand. Asking your employer for forgiveness instead of permission to break a rule you know you are going to break is rarely a winning proposition.Report

        • Michael Cain in reply to Kazzy says:

          Some media contracts are revenue sources — say, the ones like “Our network will pay you $500M for the exclusive broadcast rights in the US.” And those networks get much better than press-conference access to the star athletes. So do first-rate writers. The people with the Sport Illustrated assignment to cover the French Open are going to get better access than someone there on spec. The press conferences being complained about here are largely second- or third-tier people who either: (a) ask the same questions every time or (b) badger the athletes in hopes of provoking them. The amount of revenue generated by the people at those press conferences is vanishingly small.Report

  4. It should be simple enough to program an Alexa to do these interviews.

    “How are you feeling?”
    “I feel good. I love playing {insert sport here}.”
    “Is the {insert body part here} bothering you?”
    “No, I’m strong.”
    “What do you think about {insert name here}?”
    “{insert pronoun here}’s a tough competitor, but I’m confident.”
    etc.Report

  5. Dark Matter says:

    Hire a look-a-like model/actress as a stand in and call it done. Everyone would know it’s not her just like we know actors don’t do their own stunts.

    If there is extra drama generated by this, then that’s a good thing from everyone’s point of view.Report

  6. LeeEsq says:

    I’m not really sure what to make of this situation. During the early days of celebrity culture, many celebrities accepted or had it forced on them that they needed to make themselves available for the press and interactions with the general public as a fame tax of sort. This was true for actors, athletes, and musicians. This could be very grueling work but they seemed to know that being loved and respected by the public required more give than just appearing in films or TV, releasing albums, doing concerts, or playing sports. Some celebrities seemed to have been more open than others.

    I understand why this would be very draining but what seems to happen these days is that many celebrities do not want to provide any connection to the public beyond what they do at all. This seems like they want to stop playing the game and be a special caste unbothered by us ordinary mortals. That isn’t a good look.Report

    • Kazzy in reply to LeeEsq says:

      I think this goes even further. These are pretty much contractual obligations… not just loose understandings of what it means to be a celebrity. “You want to play in the French Open? You have to do press conferences. You don’t want to do press conferences? Skip the tournament.”Report

    • Pinky in reply to LeeEsq says:

      A special caste? I think you’ve got it completely upside-down. No one should feel any obligation to share beyond his comfort level, neither artist nor athlete nor “ordinary mortal”. A performer owes me only a performance, and only if I buy a ticket.Report

      • LeeEsq in reply to Pinky says:

        I don’t buy this. It simply isn’t possible to have a society or a working relationship where nobody ever has to go out of their comfort zone at anytime. That only works if everybody is truly equal in terms of status. That isn’t going to happen. There are always people who have to either go out of their own comfort zone or deal with never getting anything they want, people who stay firmly within their own comfort zone without much of a penalty to them, and everything in–between. Power is important and powerful high status people are always going to be better able to enforce their boundaries and be less disadvantaged by them than less powerful people.Report

        • Pinky in reply to LeeEsq says:

          I was talking about *sharing* beyond one’s comfort level. A great athletic or artistic work should be able to stand on its own.

          It’s complicated, I admit. And I think women’s tennis is kind of messed up (as I commented in reply to Dark Matter). I’m speaking more about the normative, how things should be, than the positive, how things are.

          Most athletes and artists aren’t interesting. They’re obsessive, so they might not be broad in their interests, and the thing that they’re obsessive about might not give them insight into other things (or even their field of expertise). Add to that the way they’re coached to stay within the lines during interviews, and the net result is unwatchable.

          But that said, even the most fascinating performer shouldn’t be pressured into revealing more about their lives than they want to. And they don’t have to – many stars manage to remain private.Report

    • Dark Matter in reply to LeeEsq says:

      She’s not famous for being famous. She’s famous for being a successful athlete. Unlike an actor or model, fame isn’t useful to her in terms of success.

      For someone dealing with mental illness and who hasn’t been (can’t be) famous at the lower athletic levels, the sport was probably therapy as much as career.Report

      • Kazzy in reply to Dark Matter says:

        It is and it isn’t.

        Her success as a tennis player is largely independent of her fame. The only way they’re really connected is that her fame and the money it has brought her likely helped her access and pay for better coaching and training. But she’d have been phenomenal at the sport regardless.

        But her success as a professional athlete — her ability to not just make money but to literally be the highest paid female athlete in a single year ever — is predicated on her fame. The tournaments can’t pay her five to six figures just to play and seven figures to win if no one wants to watch them.Report

      • Pinky in reply to Dark Matter says:

        Women’s tennis is an oddity among sports. Fan turnout is driven by beauty, fame, and rank, in basically that order. Not saying that fact justifies anything, but it functions more like the ice capades than a hockey game.Report

  7. Chip Daniels says:

    I think the more athletes and actors balk at the dog and pony show press engagements, the better our sports and arts will be.Report

  8. Fish says:

    There’s never a compelling reason to talk to a professional athlete before, during, or after a competition. Nothing they say is going to be worthwhile. Save it for “30 For 30” or a long-form documentary.Report

    • Michael Cain in reply to Fish says:

      Or coaches. Except Popovich.

      “How did the Lakers beat you tonight?”
      “They played better than we did.”
      “Why did your team have so much trouble defending LeBron?”
      “He’s Lebron James. <slowly> Le-Bron-James. <normal>Where have you been living for the last decade?”
      “What adjustments will you make?”
      “Even if I knew that already, do you think I’d tell you now?”

      I understand that some of the reporters are afraid to ask him questions.Report