About Last Night: Leaving New Hampshire Edition
We have the first primary votes of the 2020 Presidential Campaign in, and unlike Iowa we have them on the night it actually happened. Senator Bernie Sanders won as expected, but much closer than he probably liked. Pete Buttigieg surged to a close second, Senator Amy Klobuchar surprised in third, Joe Biden’s free-fall continues, and Senator Elizabeth Warren looks to be almost as done as Andrew Yang and Michael Bennett, who both bowed out before the votes were even counted. Let’s dig through it.
Senator Bernie Sanders:
There will be plenty of “Bernie on track for nomination” headlines this morning but there is still reason to be cautious. There are plenty of signs that the Democratic Party isn’t feeling the Bern as much as advertised. The good news here is after flat turnout in Iowa, New Hampshire’s turnout was strong, besting 2016 and creeping close to 2008 level. The problem for Sanders is that, despite him talking about how increase turnout is good for him, it doesn’t seem to have helped him any:
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is the consensus declared winner of the New Hampshire primary, but his roughly 26 percent of the vote is a sharp falloff from his 2016 win, when he beat Hillary Clinton 60 percent to 38 percent. Brownstein says that’s the lowest winning Democratic vote share in New Hampshire since 1952.
Sanders had “asked supporters to engineer the ‘highest turnout in the history of the New Hampshire primary,'” David Weigel reports at The Washington Post, but high turnout “may not necessarily help him: The absence of a real Republican contest has freed up the state’s 400,000-plus ‘non-affiliated’ voters, and in the past few days, it was easy to find them poking around at events for Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg.”
“If I had to sum up the night (and the Democratic race to date),” FiveThirtyEight’s Dan Hopkins wrote Tuesday night, “I’d say this: ‘All Your Candidates Belong to Factions.'”
If you are a Sanders supporter you are feeling great: someone has to win and right now Sanders and his revolution is leading the field and in as good a position as he could hope for. But Bernie, for all his success this year, still hasn’t won anything that he hasn’t won before, and frankly anything he wasn’t supposed to win yet. Nevada is up next, and while polls indicate that race should be very competitive, it is another caucus, and already there is worry about a repeat of the Iowa debacle. Then comes South Carolina and the newly souped-up Super Tuesday. Between now and then, the party will have their come to Jesus meeting about whether or not the 78 year old Democratic Socialist who will be 79 on election day is going to be the face of the party. Bernie may well win over a splintered field, but as of yet there is little evidence the revolution is bringing in more converts. A cynic would wonder at the inability to put away the mayor of South Bend, Indiana in elections Sanders has previously won. If Bernie Sanders is to be the nominee, he still has plenty to prove.
Pete Buttigieg:
The former Mayor Pete continues to surprise, and another strong second place has him well above expectations. Bernie unloaded a direct attack at Pete with his “funded by billionaires” quip, and Buttigieg had some uneven moments in the latest debate, but it didn’t seem to hurt him here. Like Sanders though, the question is what now? As the race moves into more diverse electorates, the glaring issue of Pete’s horrid minority polling is going to get brighter. Pete might have worked his way into a difficult spot here: not as moderate as he plays on TV, not progressive enough to appease Sanders supporters, and the divergent factions of the parties demographics still wary and unconvinced. He has over-performed, but is there a path for him to continue to do so? That depends on his ability to get support as the fractious field narrows down, or more to the point get it for those stubbornly not leaving the race despite no hope of winning. Then there is his biggest problem: two seconds don’t make a win, and South Carolina looks to be posed to hang a decidedly not close second on him, but a third place or worst. As good as it was in the Granite State, it sort of feels like a missed opportunity for Pete to get a W, like his almost-did-it in Iowa. Two seconds, a second or third in Nevada, and getting crushed in South Carolina is not a compelling narrative for Super Tuesday voters. We will see. At some point, you have to win something, and the calendar between now and the end of March doesn’t look like it has a bunch of Pete wins on it.
Amy Klobuchar:
Senator Klobuchar was patient, and got rewarded with a nice moment last night:
Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar finishing third with 20% of the vote was the biggest surprise of the night. She appears to have found a lane for a hopeful message between Sanders and the rest of the pack.
“We cannot win big by out-dividing the divider-in-chief,” Klobuchar said. “We have to bring people with us instead of shutting them out. Donald Trump’s worst nightmare is the people in the middle, tired of the name-calling and the mudslinging, have someone to vote for in November.”
Klobuchar had been trending upward since her surprise fifth-place finish on the heels of former Vice President Biden in Iowa, and her debate performance appears to have put her over the top. About half of voters said they decided in the last few days, and half of voters also said the debate was important to their choice, according to the exit polls.
We are going to hear a bunch about finding the “moderate alternative” to Sanders, so that narrative will float its way over to Team Amy. She has seen a modest bump in fundraising, but polling in the single digits in Nevada, South Carolina, and most of the Super Tuesday states means precious little time for her to turn it around in places she has no infrastructure and still lags in funding. More likely this is her high-water mark, but she will be able to hold her head up with a respectable showing and having stuck it out while bigger names with far more resources floundered as she raised her profile.
Joe Biden:
The frontrunner for most of the last year has fallen off a cliff. There is one glimmer of hope for the former VP: He still polls respectably in Nevada and is still leading in South Carolina. The latter has taken a hit, however, from the looming figure of Michael Bloomberg who has been carpet bombing every screen in the country with advertising. Biden’s fate no longer rests in his own hands here. Like a team that needs someone else to lose to get into the playoffs, Biden’s best chance to make a comeback here rests on someone else screwing up. If Bloomberg makes the Nevada debate, that will be the first time most of the country will pay attention to him other than the quarter of a billion dollars worth of ads that are inescapable. With a full ten days for other candidates to start highlighting Bloomberg’s problematic record, and the probability of focused fire on the debate stage, a Bloomberg blow up or stumble might mean some Bernie adverse folks run home to Biden. That might work in South Carolina, where the former Mayor has been eating into Joe’s lead with minorities, but might not be enough in the Super Tuesday states. But regardless, it’s panic time for Team Joe if they are going to prove that the once-promising campaign for the former Senator and Vice President isn’t just a lying dog-faced pony soldier windmill tilting for old times sake.
Elizabeth Warren:
As bad as it looks for Biden, he is still better off than the hapless Elizabeth Warren campaign. Warren is done. She doesn’t poll in the top two in any poll going forward outside of her home state, and her dismal showing in the first two contests completes a fall from media favorite (remember the four rounds of Warren is Surging!!!) to also ran. When the post mortem on this campaign season is written, the top of the underperformer list will start with Elizabeth Warren.
Andrew Yang:
Thank God we are done with this. Bye, Yang Gang, thanks for playing along.
Everyone else still technically running for president not named Michael Bloomberg:
They don’t matter.
Michael Bloomberg
Meanwhile, not in New Hampshire:
As the other candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination trudged through Iowa and New Hampshire in the early weeks of this year, Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York, has doubled his planned spending on television ads, expanded his staff several times over and started aggressively courting key party influencers — including many who have endorsed top rivals like former Vice President Joe Biden.
Bloomberg could escalate his efforts even more directly after the results of Tuesday’s New Hampshire primary are in and as candidates, party insiders and voters begin to reassess the state of the race.
On Friday, in a townhouse across from the Capitol complex in Washington, top Bloomberg campaign advisers huddled with about 20 House members to deliver a briefing on their strategy to win the nomination and defeat President Donald Trump.
The cross section of lawmakers, representing the Blue Dog Coalition, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Congressional Black Caucus, included both members who have endorsed other candidates and members who remain undecided, according to a person familiar with Bloomberg’s operation.
The strategy is to keep potential allies informed of Bloomberg’s plans in case they decide to sign on later, the person said.
The former mayor is seeing polling bounces in places like South Carolina, but is this really going to work? If it is, it’s because of one main thing. Money. Lots of it. Bloomberg is single-handedly expanding the revenue spreadsheets of every media platform in the country with his advertising blitz. That sort of money buys the options to try his novel approach to winning the nomination, and with a very divided result to this point, so far so good for the plan.
But now comes the tricky part, since at some point some votes are going to have to be cast for the former Mayor of NYC. He won’t be on the ballot of the Nevada caucuses, so South Carolina will be his first appearance. Interest groups and rivals will have 10 days before NV, and 17 between now and South Carolina, to counterattack. There is also going to be a testing of the theory of how much advertising one can do before you become so annoying it’s counterproductive. Wherever that line may lay, Bloomberg seems intent on finding and blowing a hole in it with a money bomb. How much of his polling bounce is the “idea” of Bloomberg from folks that don’t know much about him and never heard him speak will be flushed out in the next few days, especially if he makes the Nevada debates to replace Sanders Stan Steyer as the Billionaire on stage. It’s a great unknown, but will be brief unknown: one way or the other we will know in the next 45 days if Bloomberg’s Billions can equal a nominating run.
So on to Nevada. We have ten days before more votes are cast — and that is an eternity in political/news cycle time — so there will be plenty of movement as campaigns recalibrate away from the first two states after a year plus of focusing on them. Nevada will be the last few clicks on the nomination roller coaster as it crests the first hill: South Carolina the following Saturday, then the beefed up Super Tuesday immediately thereafter. For all the chaos the race appears to be in, by the end of March we should have something resembling a winner coming forth. Can Bernie and Pete expand their support in more diverse regions? Is there going to be a Joe comeback? And will billionaire Michael Bloomberg buy a nomination and re-write how campaigns are done in the process?
The time for talking is nearly done, and an incumbent President awaits. A president who, by the way, turned out 121K voters last night in a mostly symbolic vote, a stark reminder that this election will not be won by default.
I’m sorry Jay, Yang was a good fellow but he was a long shot.
Obviously, as an Amy fan, I’m pretty pleased about her showing but Andrew is spot on in his observation that she had an enormous challenge ahead of her to try and build on her expectations beating showing.
With Pete as my #2 choice and also showing extremely well in NH you’d think I’d be happy but apprehension is gnawing at me. NH is showing that Uncle Bernie is consolidating his support but he and Warren together still account for well under half the votes. It’s far more likely that Warren will drop out than the moderates which could leave Bernie with a consolidated plurality in his lane while the moderates split up the Democratic majority among them.
And then there’s Bloomberg to screw things up even more; damn him.
My mental electoral map suggests Bernies chances are improving which is pretty dismaying for me. I wouldn’t be nuts enough to predict a Corbyn style route but I think Bernie is a damned risky bet if you want to win and even if he does eke out a general victory he sure as hell won’t help in the Senate.Report
Yang came out and said “yeah, we’ve got no way to get the nomination… it wouldn’t be fair of me to ask for donations and volunteers when there’s no way to get the nomination.”
Immediately demonstrating that he has an integrity and an intelligence unmatched by pretty much everybody else in the field.
Let’s hope he runs again. Perennially. Or, you know, goes for congress somewhere.Report
like I said elsewhere, Yang would be an absolutely awesome Secretary Of Commerce. Although he’d probably be like that guy in SimCity: “You cannot cut funding for transit! You will regret this.”Report
Well transit funds sit in Transportation not Commerce . . . . so he could rightly say that all day long as Secretary of Commerce. He’d be my boss several layer sup at that point, and I”d love to work for him as opposed to our current secretary.Report
I very much hope he does go for congress or other public service positions. The party is lucky to have him.Report
Integrity anyway.
Others are surely just as aware of their lack of prospects, but hoping for horsetradesies in exchange for their dropping out and endorsing another candidate.
Does that make them more intelligent than Yang? Less? Or just more opportunistic?Report
Out of all the people who are running for the Democratic nominee, Klobuchar is the person whose appeal I understand the least. She is literally the no candidate. Her policy offerings are literally nothing beyond competent administration. She is everything that Sanders supporters accused Clinton of being bout entirely accurate.Not only that but she seems to take delight in her “I offer you nothing and we can’t have nice things” stance. Its like reliving Bill Clinton’s politics but with pessimism rather than optimism.Report
I agree with this 100% if it’s about Buttigeig.
Klobuchar strikes me as “Clinton without the spices” and there is an audience for that sort of thing… expecially given Clinton’s spices.Report
Klobuchar is the person whose appeal I understand the least.
She’s competent, realistic, decent, and can win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Democrats are in love with aspirational candidates and (therefore) confuse *lies* with serious policy proposals. Warren, for example, has a bunch of plans which won’t ever – EVER – get out of committee, let alone to the floor for a House vote, let alone passed by the Senate. Everyone except her supporters realize this. Same for Bernie and *his* supporters.Report
In this era competent administration and the prospect of electorally hammering Trump and his party like a drum across the midwest is a really appealing prospect. She’s neither a political newborn like Buttigieg nor is she ancient like Biden. She’s not an ancient and delusional like Bernie and she’s not made the brutal missteps that Warren has.
The Democratic Primary Voters really want to win and Klobuchar offers very good odds of this.
Finally, Klobuchar’s appeal only fails to make sense if one thinks that Hillary Clinton lost in 2016 on policy arguments rather than the reality which is that Hillary Clinton lost because of a triple hit combo of A) being Hillary Clinton who the GOP has spent 20 years vilifying, B) Making a series of bad campaigning errors and C) suffering a series of unprecedented interventions in the election from various actors, primarily and most egregiously being from Comey’s idiotic and unjustified intervention weeks before the election.
So if you keep centrist liberal policies from the Obama era and add in some moderate liberal improvements slightly leftward and don’t be HRC with her baggage and errors and you have a pretty decent winning combo.
Unless you’re waiting for Bernie’s revolution of course. The Berniacs want the revolution. Klobuchar isn’t going to deliver a revolution- that’s another thing people like about her.Report
I don’t think that Klobucher is offering any of that and she doesn’t seem to have what I see as general election appeal. Her charisma is nothing.Report
I need a baseline.
Was Hillary Clinton charismatic?
Is Pete Buttigeig charismatic?
Is Donald Trump charismatic?Report
Trump is charismatic.
Mayor Pete is charismatic
Hillary could be charismatic but it wasn’t natural.Report
I realize that I’ve never seen her speak at length… If you haven’t either, you can rectify that here:
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We disagree on that buddy, and I like her personally. But then I like Minnesotans in general, I decided to live here and marry one after all, so perhaps I’m biased.Report
Her policy offerings are literally nothing beyond competent administration.
Sold! Given that all the other candidates’ policy offerings are hot garbage, competent administration and nothing else sounds amazing.Report
What does Klobuchar offer to any voter under 55 and/or any voter who is not economically secure? During one of the last pre-Iowa debates she made a point about how there is going to be a shortage of nursing assistants. I think she gave a five figure number. The problem is that this point was made during a question on student debt and college tuition affordability. What she neglected to say is that nursing assistants make very little money, work long hours, and generally do not have great benefits. There was a strong implication of “Millennials and Generation Z, you will just need to suck it.” If she discussed unionization during that point, it would have been better.
Obama in 2008 was Yes, we can. Klobuchar in 2020 seems to be “Hell no, we can’t.” Again, I will crawl over broken glass to vote for her but Bloomberg of all people seems to be running a more progressive campaign than Klobuchar.Report
What does Klobuchar offer to any voter under 55 and/or any voter who is not economically secure?
You mean she hasn’t offered to cancel their student loan debt or eliminate college tuition or institute Single Payer in the first 100 days? Ahh, good point.Report
Look, when young people talk about student debt and college affordability they envision poor pitiable people like them getting helped out. That’s great for them and obviously they like the thoughts of it. But when just about anyone else hears about student debt relief they envision a cohort that’s mostly from the wealthy strata of society and is poised to get even more wealthy getting a big wealth transfer from poorer people. That isn’t appealing at all.
Add in that addressing college affordability without addressing the issue of college administration means injecting cash directly into a pulsing sprawling pustule of administrative bloat that works hand in glove with the most shrill left-socio-Calvinist woke actors that even most liberals can’t stand and the prospect becomes downright toxic.
So yeah, it’s not as simple and popular as we liberals would like it to be. And Amy recognizes that. Compared to Bernie who promises that the revolution will deliver you the moon Amy’s offer of competent incremental liberal improvement feels like weak tea. But I’ll take a cup of hot weak tea over an imaginary glass of bourbon in my mind any day.
And yes, I will crawl over broken glass to vote for Bernie if he gets the nod.Report
Yeah, policy merits aside, student loan forgiveness is horrendous politics. I could right a dozen conservo attacks on it. And the policy merits aren’t all that great.Report
I’d say that whether you can write a dozen conservo attacks on it is a lot less interesting than if you could write two or three progresso attacks on it.
Because “conservatives will oppose this” is a fairly universal critique. You can see it for stuff that they support under Trump that they opposed under Obama.Report
The con attacks i could think of would actually be substantive before even getting into the emotive attacks.
Stuff they support under trump they opposed under O?????Report
Deficit Spending? The very idea of Executive Orders? That’s without using google.
Do you need me to google specific things? I will, I suppose… I just didn’t think that “conservatives are hypocrites about the Executive Branch” was that controversial an insight.Report
Deficit spending would be one of the bull squat attacks from R’s. So would EO’s. Hasn’t the issue over DS and EO’s been exactly what you do with them as opposed to the concept in general. Tax breaks to rich people leading to high deficits is bad; deficits to fund counter cyclical spending in near depressions is good.Report
Okay?
I still think that whether you can come up with conservative attacks against a particular policy (even substantive ones!) are less interesting than if you can up with progressive ones.
Certainly within the context of which democratic nominee’s policies are the easiest to sell.Report
It isnt’ the easiest to sell outside of the people who already like it. Are you for it? It is legal to just agree with someone or state your own preferences.
One prog view, which i endorse, is that it’s a poor expenditure since a lot of it goes to relatively affluent people. If we are going to spend money it should either be on everybody or focus first on the neediest.
I’m guessing this wouldn’t couint as a prog argument but the gov shouldn’t’ bail out everybody who made bad loan choices. What is the proper official classification of that point?Report
I’m one of those “let people get rid of the debt as part of the bankruptcy process” people.
It strikes me as the simplest solution and has protections against moral hazard baked in.Report
“The con attacks i could think of would actually be substantive ”
But why do you think we should care what a bunch of asshole racists who hate people people think?Report
I didnt’ say that now did i nor do i support the sentiment. I would help if waited until people said horrible things before you just assume they will. If you are against student loan forgiveness then maybe we agree on that.Report
Yeah, it plays just god(ess?) awfully with the genuinely poor, the old and the middle class. Frankly the only people it plays well for are current college students and college grads- who happen to be very vocal and visible online but are not a gigantic voting bloc in meat-space.Report
Good comment North.Report
The tweet I liked about Bernie “having trouble”:
“Spider-Man took out the Green Goblin no problem! How come he’s taking so long with the Sinister Six?”
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Also, whenever we drove through New Hampshire to visit my folks, we saw multiple billboards for Tulsi Gabbard. She ended up barely beating Yang, and that guy just quit, so.Report
One of the phenomena that is doing a great job of being simultaneously under-and-oversold is the fact that Bernie Sanders was the One Reasonable Not Clinton vote last time around.
And so, of freakin’ *COURSE* he won New Hampshire last time around. He wasn’t Clinton! Of course he came within spitting distance of causing a contested convention. He wasn’t Clinton!
And so now there are a ton of Not Clintons to vote for. Pick any Not Clinton at your leisure. You’re not limited to Grampa Nutball.Report
So much this.Report
I mean, if we want to compare most directly then we should be comparing Sanders to, like, Klobuchar, and he’s doing quite well compared to Klobuchar.Report
Please understand. I was using “Grandpa Nutball” from the perspective of someone who will be voting for him in the Primary and, Lord willing and the Creek don’t rise, the General.Report
You’re feelin the Bern Jay? Color me surprised.Report
I caucused for him in 2016!
Call it “inertia”.
(Vermin Supreme is likely to be the guy I vote for if Bernie ain’t on the ballot so I’m not suggesting we use me as any sort of bellwether.)Report
From my perspective with at least one foot inside the tent, the best comparison would be Hillary to Biden, who shares with Hillary the faint praise of “voting for him/her if I *have* to”.Report
I saw a PETE! sign in the neighborhood, just a couple blocks away from my house. First one, lets see if their will be more. What is interesting is SuperDemocratGirl down the street hasn’t been putting anything up lately. Of course, when she ran for County Commisioner last go-round she got beating like the proverbial step child (and as someone who fills both requirments, I am all to familier with those beatings) in the year my county went 2A sancuary, one whole hour south of Portland. The only Bernie signs I see locally are at the countryside farmers markets, usually the bigger, commercial ones. No Amy signs yet, but I will keep my eyes peeled in the college town when I go see my wife. Lots of Trump signs once you leave the hood, even a few in the college town down the road.
I am very curious to see how this thing plays out locally.Report
1. I will give this to political twitter, they predictably saw that Biden’s polling was a mirage based on name recognition. According to Chait, Biden has never finished higher than 4th in any primary during his various attempts at the Presidency. Somehow his defeat in 2008, got him promoted to VP and he was a good VP for Obama. Biden was too senior for anyone to tell him no but not senior enough to get a lot of endorsements.
2. Chait is also concerned that the Bernie storm is going to lead to a McGovern or Mondale style defeat. I am not certain based on polling and a lot of Chait’s hyperventilation is because he thinks Bernie is too far to the left and he admits it. If Bernie gets the nomination, I am going to crawl over glass to vote for him. Same with any other Democratic nominee. That being said, I don’t thin Chait’s predicition is true. The demographics of the voting public are very different than 1972, 1984, or even 2008. Plus Trump is massively unpopular and seems to be going back to not helping himself because of his authoritarian rage.
3. Poor Warren. My very small solace is that Bill Clinton apparently did not win any primaries or caucuses until March in 1992’s primary cycle. This is a small solace. She is probably not going to be the nominee.
4. College-educated women apparently fled to Klobuchar and Buttigieg in New Hampshire. I still don’t get the appeal of Klobuchar. She seems to be the candidate of “No we can’t have nice things.” Proposing lowering eligibility on Medicare to 55 is good but I hate the fact that the United States is seemingly a country where if you are under 55, no one pitches anything to you. Sanders and Warren at least are more robust in their policy proposals for all Americans. Even when it came to student debt relief, Klobuchar began talking about how we need more nursing assistants and home health aides and ignored the fact that those jobs pay poorly with bad conditions and long hours. Her whole view seems to be that late Generation Xers and Millennials just need to suck it up with worse jobs, less pay, and fewer benefits. But if she is the nominee, I will crawl over broken glass to vote for her.
4. Bloomberg appears to be playing a very smart ground game. I like his environmentalism. Plus I think he can get under Trump’s skin easily as an actual self-made billionaire. I am not enthused because of his previous contempt for the Democratic Party. I wonder how many Bloomberg-curious voters are attracted to him because of his wealth and his ability to go after the right-wing dark money machine. Political twitter is sputtering at him right now.
5. Steyer is apparently polling at 18-19 percent. What is up with that?Report
2. I’m on record that there will not be any “landslides” regardless, so I agree with you here. Could a Trump re-election scenarios be wider electoral college win than 2016 against Bernie? It very well could, but there will be no landslides, although whoever wins by more than one point will claim it to be so.
5. Steyer is befuddling, and I’m interested to see if that number disappears with Bloomberg, or eats into Mike’s efforts. It’s just weird, you would think they can’t inhabit the same electoral space, but Steyer shouldn’t be that high anyway. Interesting to watch.Report
They’re both rich guys trying to buy the nomination so they technically occupy the same ‘lane’ if you will: voters who can be influenced by purchased advertising and purchased advocacy.Report
or maybe not to buy the nomination, but to buy a big enough piece that they can argue they ought to have a space in the administration of whoever *does* end up winning…Report
Yes it could be an influence play too. But I question their reasoning if it is. They’re draining votes off moderate candidates and if they enable Bernie to take the nod with his plurality of the votes units behind him while the moderate majority splinters then they’ll buy no influence at all.
My own guess is that the various grifters and sycophants in Bloomberg and Steyers’ orbits are simply playing both of them to drain money out of them into the sycophants pockets.Report
I don’t see any of the billionaires angling for a spot in someone else’s administration, as that would be a personal step down for them. They own their own mansions and helicopters and aren’t likely to volunteer to punch a time clock as someone else’s “employee.”
Secondly, they’ve got so much money that they could get one of those special envoy type jobs without going through the pain, cost, and potential humiliation of running for President.
There is, however, a chance that their plan B is to throw their weight around at the convention so they can essentially pick who the candidate is going to be, regardless of what Democratic voters want.Report
Steyer is pouring money into ads in NV and SC. Bloomberg is not. We’ll find out on Super Tuesday, when they go head to head. Thumbing through the FiveThirtyEight polling charts, it looks like Steyer disappears on March 3.Report
The best you can say about Klobuchar is that she is being honest about what can be accomplished within the constraints of American politics. The problem is that she seems to like this way too much. I was less enthused about Warren than others, mainly because I think too many of her supporters adopted a Saint Warren of Arc stance that they accuse Sanders supporters of having, rightly, without realizing it.
I agree with you on Bloomberg. He is the only one taking Trump on directly at this point. This strategy might work for him. It shows him as supremely confident he will win the nomination and be the one that takes Trump down. He is basically running as anti-Trump. A billionaire that will get things done, loves immigrants, etc.Report
I was less enthused about Warren than others, mainly because I think too many of her supporters adopted a…
It still astounds me to hear people admit they support/oppose a candidate based on how that candidates supporters behave. Absolutely bizarre.Report
Well, allegedly, Bloomberg claims he’ll continue his barrage against Trump regardless of whether he wins the nomination or not. It is a really unusual strategy.
Klobuchar is cheerful about making do with the reality we have not the one we’d like to imagine. I like that about her and I prefer it to Bernie’s constant sullen anger that reality doesn’t deliver the socialist revolution each morning with his paper.Report
How about the rise of the KlobMob? If Butteigeig and Biden don’t consolidate the center lane, is she the Kasich or the (Bill) Clinton in this scenario?
Speaking of Clinton, Slate ran a post-Mortem of the Warren campaign today. Personal theory: Warren’s major collapse took place right after she went after Bernie for allegedly saying a woman couldn’t win. The slow and steady rise of Klobuchar, earned by a series of solid debate performances, tells us something.
Democrats aren’t worried about electability of women by others, or are they overwhelmingly sexist (or suffering from internalized sexism). What people don’t like about Hillary is the same thing they don’t like about Warren: entitlement mixed with special pleading and the idea that no excuse is good enough for failing to fall in line. Warren’s media surrogates, who often also were Hillary’s, destroyed her.
I don’t exactly have hot dish running through my veins at the moment, but for me it’s Klobuchar over Bernie, Warren and Biden in a second.Report
Are you talking about Jordan Weismann’s piece? I thought the major point was trying to thread the needle between Sanders’ universal healthcare supporters and professionals who like her wonkiness.Report
Weismann chalked it up to sexism and bungling healthcare. Her most woke stuff outside using her own gender as a sword and shield – pronouns in the Twitter bio, promising a trans child veto over the Secretary of Education nominee, using “Latinx” with a straight face – all kinda flew under the radar, I think.
True, active wokes are probably under 5% of the general population, probably 10% of Democrats. What they lack in numbers they make up for in owning the chokepoints of cultural production.Report
One thing that shows up that does succeed at irritating the ever-living crap out of me: Check out this headline. What’s missing?
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Andrew Yang?Report
Other than him.Report
Remember the pics of Stalin? You know, the ones were they airbrushed out “undesirables?”
Yeah…
Between this and the show trials in the house, they really are going full totalitarian.Report
I mean, this Tweet was 14 minutes later, when it was confirmed Bernie won.
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1227454217457209344
So yes, I have no idea why it irritates you.Report
You even point out that the story about who won came out *AFTER* the story about place and show.
If you still have no idea, let me give you a possible future headline that may clarify your imagination:
“Bloomberg/Buttigeig Come In 2nd Place In Presidential Election”Report
“we fixed it later” doesn’t mean there wasn’t a problem, funboiReport
The only political account on Twitter worth following shares his thoughts. Click on through to read the thread but here’s as good a starting place as any:
And if you just want the gist, it’s him dealing with the questions before The Party (meaning the apparatus) that exist now. The main choice, he says, is “to go with a decent but flawed forward-looking bet, or a protest vote wash.”
There are upsides to both.
There are downsides to both.Report
I wonder who’s enjoying the chaotic Democratic primary race more, Trump or Hillary? I can just picture her watching a panel of panicked CNN analysts, then tossing some more bat wings into her cauldron, with dank fumes of schadenfreude wafting toward the ceiling as she cackles maniacally . ^_^Report