Yeah, it should but that doesn't mean it will. Everybody with half a brain cell realizes that the Palestinians can't militarily defeat Israel and that the world isn't going to swoop in and save them. The Palestinians and their so called allies can't comprehend a negotiated settlement with Israel because that would mean giving up the Sacred Right of Return.
Post-WWII or even liberal-left theories about how these things should work basically have no idea what to do when groups refuse to be realistic and keep insisting on complete victory because under their understanding of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, their group possesses all justice and the other group is completely wrong. The I/P conflict is one example of this. Universal principles clashing hard against implementation in messy reality.
None of the wars you invoked involve developed democracies. Israel is a develop democracy and is held to developed democracies standards. That means people expect them not to go full out.
The it's war logic hasn't applied since World War II. Humanity, especially in the democracies, is suppose to be too civilized for that for now. This is especially true in conflicts that attract the interest of the international caring community/chattering classes. For a variety of reasons, the I/P conflict attracts a lot of outside interest and partisans on both sides. Turning the I/P conflict into a proxy war for a variety of other conflicts hasn't done much to bring the I/P conflict to a resolution but it is what it is.
2 days ago
DHS Secretary Kristi Noem proposes Citizenship:The Reality TV Show
Trump's relationships to Israel is just an example of how a lot of his policy is a sort of monkey paw's version of leftist policy desires. Many leftists wanted the United States to be a lot less close to Israel for years or decades but they didn't imagine it would be because the American President is easily bribable and the gulf monarchies are willing to pay.
2 days ago
Mexican influencer murdered by gunshot on livestream. There are times where I think that barbarianism is a lot more common than us civilized folks think and that the belief the world was getting better in a liberalish sort of way was more of an illusion than anything else:
It's hard to read what Trump's policy towards Israel is. Obviously, the Arab Gulf Kingdoms can bribe Trump a lot more than Israel can. Trump's administration also closed the Palestine Office of the State Department and he isn't exactly putting pressure on Israel to do anything.
2 days ago
In today's "merely anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic" incident, Jewish woman brutally assaulted in Copenhagen, called a Jewish whore as people chant Free Palestine at her:
The basic problem with most of the liberal-left and Jews is that they basically can't see Jews as anything but white people with different holidays rather than a distinct minority group with a culture and religion of our own. They know just enough about our own history to ask for help for their cause but when it comes to things like minority rights and multiculturalism or understanding why Jews might want a place of our own, they just can't get it. They know what minorities and oppressed people look like and it isn't like the Jews.
For the record, I think that every side sucks and are using Jews as props. Saul is focusing more on the Right anti-Semites because he thinks they are a bigger danger and the Right is greater danger. The Left also has many anti-Semites that they refuse to do anything about because that would start a big civil war on the Left.
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Adding to Saul's link, multiple Trump officials linked to anti-Semitic extremists:
This doesn't change the fact that I think Jews are being used as a prop by the left and the right. Nobody is making a positive case for Jewish support, only a negative one.
Like it should be blindingly obvious to people that there is a big issue in Islam's adopting to modernity. Every Muslim majority country has big issues in how the wrong type of Muslims and non-Muslims are treated even if it doesn't go to the levels of massacres. It should also be really clear to others why many Israeli and Non-Israeli Jews, no matter what type of Jew they are, aren't exactly into letting their guard down when they see what is happening to non-Muslims through out the rest of the Middle East and North Africa.
4 days ago
Alawites and Christians are being massacred in Syria by Islamists. This is why Israeli Jews aren't up for completely dismantling Israel and replacing it with a one state solution:
The right has plenty of anti-Semitism of it's own that it hides up. They force universities to deal with a particular type of anti-Semitism. The problem with left anti-Semitism for the Democratic Party and mainstream liberals is that most of it comes from forces outside the Democratic Party.
5 days ago
A Holocaust denying podcaster has turned anti-Semitism into crypto. Making matters more worrisome, left and right anti-Semites seem to be finding common ground. A kid name Mo Khan who put up a "F*ck the Jews" sign at one of David Portnoy's bars after ordering bottle service got $10,000 from them. The right and the left can't make any positive arguments on why Jews should support them, only negative ones.
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Yeah, it should but that doesn't mean it will. Everybody with half a brain cell realizes that the Palestinians can't militarily defeat Israel and that the world isn't going to swoop in and save them. The Palestinians and their so called allies can't comprehend a negotiated settlement with Israel because that would mean giving up the Sacred Right of Return.
Post-WWII or even liberal-left theories about how these things should work basically have no idea what to do when groups refuse to be realistic and keep insisting on complete victory because under their understanding of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, their group possesses all justice and the other group is completely wrong. The I/P conflict is one example of this. Universal principles clashing hard against implementation in messy reality.
None of the wars you invoked involve developed democracies. Israel is a develop democracy and is held to developed democracies standards. That means people expect them not to go full out.
The it's war logic hasn't applied since World War II. Humanity, especially in the democracies, is suppose to be too civilized for that for now. This is especially true in conflicts that attract the interest of the international caring community/chattering classes. For a variety of reasons, the I/P conflict attracts a lot of outside interest and partisans on both sides. Turning the I/P conflict into a proxy war for a variety of other conflicts hasn't done much to bring the I/P conflict to a resolution but it is what it is.
DHS Secretary Kristi Noem proposes Citizenship:The Reality TV Show
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kristi-noem-wants-migrants-to-compete-for-citizenship-on-hunger-games-style-reality-show/
Now let's see if this means anything.
Trump's relationships to Israel is just an example of how a lot of his policy is a sort of monkey paw's version of leftist policy desires. Many leftists wanted the United States to be a lot less close to Israel for years or decades but they didn't imagine it would be because the American President is easily bribable and the gulf monarchies are willing to pay.
Mexican influencer murdered by gunshot on livestream. There are times where I think that barbarianism is a lot more common than us civilized folks think and that the belief the world was getting better in a liberalish sort of way was more of an illusion than anything else:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg4rn0z1r6o?fbclid=IwY2xjawKTaaVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFOeUJZS3RCcGZYNW00cXFNAR61-Q7RYDet9cW_drkbprMIIYmO2hoISbECMAjbvKdN_JaNpWOOFZ4CqvH7YA_aem_9pmTL-eJVr9ICn0_-4sswQ
It's hard to read what Trump's policy towards Israel is. Obviously, the Arab Gulf Kingdoms can bribe Trump a lot more than Israel can. Trump's administration also closed the Palestine Office of the State Department and he isn't exactly putting pressure on Israel to do anything.
In today's "merely anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic" incident, Jewish woman brutally assaulted in Copenhagen, called a Jewish whore as people chant Free Palestine at her:
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-845981
The basic problem with most of the liberal-left and Jews is that they basically can't see Jews as anything but white people with different holidays rather than a distinct minority group with a culture and religion of our own. They know just enough about our own history to ask for help for their cause but when it comes to things like minority rights and multiculturalism or understanding why Jews might want a place of our own, they just can't get it. They know what minorities and oppressed people look like and it isn't like the Jews.
For the record, I think that every side sucks and are using Jews as props. Saul is focusing more on the Right anti-Semites because he thinks they are a bigger danger and the Right is greater danger. The Left also has many anti-Semites that they refuse to do anything about because that would start a big civil war on the Left.
Adding to Saul's link, multiple Trump officials linked to anti-Semitic extremists:
https://www.npr.org/2025/05/14/nx-s1-5387299/trump-white-house-antisemitism
This doesn't change the fact that I think Jews are being used as a prop by the left and the right. Nobody is making a positive case for Jewish support, only a negative one.
Like it should be blindingly obvious to people that there is a big issue in Islam's adopting to modernity. Every Muslim majority country has big issues in how the wrong type of Muslims and non-Muslims are treated even if it doesn't go to the levels of massacres. It should also be really clear to others why many Israeli and Non-Israeli Jews, no matter what type of Jew they are, aren't exactly into letting their guard down when they see what is happening to non-Muslims through out the rest of the Middle East and North Africa.
Alawites and Christians are being massacred in Syria by Islamists. This is why Israeli Jews aren't up for completely dismantling Israel and replacing it with a one state solution:
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-10-2025-001051_EN.html
I forgot the link from my point yesterdeay:
https://forward.com/news/718429/mo-khan-stew-peters-crypto-jproof/
The right has plenty of anti-Semitism of it's own that it hides up. They force universities to deal with a particular type of anti-Semitism. The problem with left anti-Semitism for the Democratic Party and mainstream liberals is that most of it comes from forces outside the Democratic Party.
A Holocaust denying podcaster has turned anti-Semitism into crypto. Making matters more worrisome, left and right anti-Semites seem to be finding common ground. A kid name Mo Khan who put up a "F*ck the Jews" sign at one of David Portnoy's bars after ordering bottle service got $10,000 from them. The right and the left can't make any positive arguments on why Jews should support them, only negative ones.