And yes, water is very fast to be brought on line, but might not be in the right location. You can have the gas turbines in site with compressed natural gas, if piped gas is not available. A 20' container with give you almost 20 MWh of generation. A similar container of LNG would do about 50 MWh.
Several containers on site can allow for fast ramping of a small gas facility to take over under sudden wind drop conditions without affecting the grid stability
You are converting massxheadxg to electricity at an efficiency factor of 40% or so (been years since I cared). You can get enough for a small village with a creek and the head of a small hill. You can do a city with a not too big river and 1,000 mts head
Full run of river with no head whatsoever (Danube River style) is a matter of water flow. Bulb turbines are just boat propellers running in the other direction.
Particularly, with wind, large wind facilities should probably be paired with fast on line open cycle gas turbines, quite inefficient but very fast to ramp up and down. Probably regulations should require developers to add such fast reserve on a ratio of X to Y when developing wing above a certain level
You can't insure the tail. This leaflet says they have 12 bn in insurance reserves, which seems a lot until you remember that Fukushima's liability payments are above 80 bn. You can insure the first tier because it's capped, you can insure the excess liability up to a cap, but no syndicate will carry 80 bn. in losses. Hence, like in hurricane insurance, you have the government as reinsurer of last resort.
And thus some more cost of nuclear power is transferred to the public
You are right in general, but the particulars of the economics on wind have changed dramatically in the last 15 years.
Given that wind costs is basically repaying the initial investment, the drop in $/MWh from 2000 to 2015 is about 1/3 or more, making wind competitive in the generation pool without subsidies.
There are already places, not only in the USA, with more wind than what the grid stability can manage. And more keeps coming on line.
The funny thing is that the prohibition on recycling spent nuclear fuel is not based on environmental concerns, but on "minimizing" the risk that processed fuel gets in the hands of terrorists or rogue actors.
I think most environmentalists would support raising the ban, in order to reduce the risk of the spent fuel seeping out and polluting the area.
Personnel costs are a rounding error on the cost of generating electricity.
Offshore wind plants with several hundred MWs of installed capacity run remotely with zero on site personnel.
Most other plants have one to three operators per shift and a couple more people around: a chemist or similar for environmental and fuel testing, a secretary to pick up calls, a couple of guys scheduling maintenance and another couple keeping up the purchase, receipt and warehousing of spare parts.
Plants run themselves these days. Another example of blue collar jobs that have disappeared never to come back.
At the end of the day, rate payers are the only source of revenue for the whole electrical grid, from Hoover Dam to the plug where you plug your computer (not counting taxpayers subsidies).
[A5] There's a story that I've heard attributed to Joseph Kennedy, JFK's father, when ambassador in London. At some dinner there was a portrait of George III in the room, and he gave a toast "to King George, Father or our Country", meaning the USA, explaining later that if it wasn't for the King's intransigence, perhaps there would have not been an Independence at all.
51 dead cops this year so far, and counting. Last one, this last Sunday.
A cop dies in service, it barely makes the local pages, in a slow news day. And yet, I cannot imagine myself going out every morning and facing those odds of not coming back from the office.
Black lives matter, yes. Blue Lives Matter, too.
So, at least, tone down the sarcasm, please. You do have a valid point. Don't waste it in cheap shots
But I take objection to "recklessly and secretly install a shoddy home server and worked with Top Secret information on it, then outright lied to the public about it when they were caught"
First of all, I very much it was a secret at all. DoS IT personnel set up and served the system. Everyone that emailed there, including probably POTUS were aware that they were not emailing "secretary@state.gov.us" or whatever her official email was.
Then, for a system of this magnitude, it was not shoddy or recklessly managed. 110 problematic emails in three or four years isn't bad at all in terms of managing communication.
Third, it might not be kosher, but I very much doubt it was illegal. Scores of people were aware of the setting and apparently no one (no one of any weight in the DoS or the WH, from POTUS downwards, found it "illegal". I think a legal opinion from DoS in-house counsel would come exactly were the FBI ended: the setting itself is not illegal, but it creates opportunities to bypass the (hacked) DoS protections. IF (very important) the system is used recklessly, that reckless use would be illegal. The word reckless matters a lot. No recklessness, no illegality.
Last, I don't think HRC outright lied. She might have parsed her words, but that's a different thing.
Tip to avoid IT pestering you about passwords:
Think of a poem or lyrics you like, Use the first letter of each word. Use capitals when the poem has capital letters Every month change a letter for the month number, or use a capital letter in a different place, or change a vowel for a special character
As the self appointed (*) Blue Lives Matter defender is this forum, can I ask you to please stop, notme (noptme). If you think you are helping the cops, you definitely aren't. You are just embarrassing yourself.
On another news, the investigation was transferred to the FBI and the US Attorney by the BRPD themselves. It was not yanked away from them
And, yes, the second video makes the situation far less clear. So please let's suspend judgement for a bit
And, yes, the police is too trigger happy. The SWATification of America is a major problem. If disproportionately hurts the black population, and it makes the police-community relationships much more difficult.
And, finally, yes. Blue Lives do matter. Coincidentally, the last two Blue fatalities registered were also in LA: Deputy Sheriff David F. Michel, Jr, Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office, killed on June 22th; and Sergeant David Elahi, Sterlington (LA) Police Department, Killed on July 3rd. 51 officers have died in the course of duty so far in 2016. Do give them a thought once in a while.
We have two issues here, both very important, and they should not be conflated:
The dual Justice system is pervasive at all levels. Old boys/girls networks are treated one way, the rest of the hoi-polloi a different way. Even OUR rapists get the benefit of discretion come sentencing time (he's a good kid, are you going to mess HIS life for a bad 20 min HE had?). We can talk about this all day long.
The Republican hypocrisy (and I won't accept "both sides do it the same") is dangerously corroding the faith in our system of government. When "if the VicePresident screams Classified Information in a crowded threatre, well, he just declassified it, nothing to look at" becomes "she is a traitor to the country because she received three emails marked classified in her home server", it makes it clear that is just a juvenile game, in which you will say or do or risk anything (by risk, I mean, other people will pay, with money or blood) just to score points at your opponent.
After all, Brexit as exactly that: "hey, let's get our names on top of the Tory Leadership chart. Yes, the country will suffer, but, old chap, I'm talking about OUR names on the top".
Please do not read this as a defense of HRC's stupid, stupid, no good, horrible, really bad, indefensible, email servers idea.
110 emails with classified information sent or received in this server during her whole tenure ? That's a rounding error in the number of emails the Secretary of State receives and sends. I get 110 work emails on a slow day.
I would also want to know how Sent and Received breaks out. If it's 100 Received and only 10 Sent, well, she cannot control that people do not send Classified Info to her private email (that should have never, ever, ever, existed). Ten wrongly Replied or Forwarded emails among the barrage doesn't even get to rounding errors.
From someone who's been in the crosshairs of every Republican officer from the Amarillo TX municipal dog catcher upwards, it was a very stupid move. But it was not a criminal move, it was not ever a wreckless (using the legal meaning of the world) negligence.
Do little people get prosecuted for mistakenly forwarding a classified email instead of the invite to the office Christmas party? Yes. A lot. It should not happen.
But I'm still waiting for a Republican, from dog catcher upwards, to get pissy about disclosing the identity of CIA agents to discredit the writer of a completely accurate report. Not that anything bad happened to the discloser, or even to his stooge.
Given that the productivity of a -for instance- experienced factory worker in the USA is better than the productivity of a just hired Chinese counterpart, exporting jobs intuitively creates more jobs than it destroys, just to achieve the same level of production output.
So I add my voice calling BS on your initial statement
I'm convinced now. Let's not invest one more dollar in infrastructure.
Imagine, some of it might go to unionized non-white workers. One of them might even be gay.
So now that infrastructure is not an option, let's get Caterpillar to scrap the robotics based spare parts wharehouse and hire another 800 guys. I'm sure Caterpillar will be happy to oblige.
And after that, we'll bring back to the USA jobs that no longer exist even in China.
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On “More on the War on Coal”
I didn't know that Xcel did that, but that's exactly the same I was proposing, X eat for the coal. Coal is very slow to ramp up/down
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And yes, water is very fast to be brought on line, but might not be in the right location. You can have the gas turbines in site with compressed natural gas, if piped gas is not available. A 20' container with give you almost 20 MWh of generation. A similar container of LNG would do about 50 MWh.
Several containers on site can allow for fast ramping of a small gas facility to take over under sudden wind drop conditions without affecting the grid stability
"
Totally dependent on head.
You are converting massxheadxg to electricity at an efficiency factor of 40% or so (been years since I cared). You can get enough for a small village with a creek and the head of a small hill. You can do a city with a not too big river and 1,000 mts head
Full run of river with no head whatsoever (Danube River style) is a matter of water flow. Bulb turbines are just boat propellers running in the other direction.
On “Linky Friday #174: Her Majesty’s World”
Clean up should be about 1bn. One more for damages?
Is an order of magnitude less
On “More on the War on Coal”
Particularly, with wind, large wind facilities should probably be paired with fast on line open cycle gas turbines, quite inefficient but very fast to ramp up and down. Probably regulations should require developers to add such fast reserve on a ratio of X to Y when developing wing above a certain level
"
Existing wind generation indeed
I was also thinking Jilin in (far NE) China, Nicaragua, and, recently, the central area of Chile
On “Linky Friday #174: Her Majesty’s World”
Brother
And please send your revoked nerd card to the home office
"
You can't insure the tail. This leaflet says they have 12 bn in insurance reserves, which seems a lot until you remember that Fukushima's liability payments are above 80 bn. You can insure the first tier because it's capped, you can insure the excess liability up to a cap, but no syndicate will carry 80 bn. in losses. Hence, like in hurricane insurance, you have the government as reinsurer of last resort.
And thus some more cost of nuclear power is transferred to the public
On “More on the War on Coal”
You are right in general, but the particulars of the economics on wind have changed dramatically in the last 15 years.
Given that wind costs is basically repaying the initial investment, the drop in $/MWh from 2000 to 2015 is about 1/3 or more, making wind competitive in the generation pool without subsidies.
There are already places, not only in the USA, with more wind than what the grid stability can manage. And more keeps coming on line.
"
The funny thing is that the prohibition on recycling spent nuclear fuel is not based on environmental concerns, but on "minimizing" the risk that processed fuel gets in the hands of terrorists or rogue actors.
I think most environmentalists would support raising the ban, in order to reduce the risk of the spent fuel seeping out and polluting the area.
"
You are right in everything, but batteries have a great role to play in distributed generation.
"
Personnel costs are a rounding error on the cost of generating electricity.
Offshore wind plants with several hundred MWs of installed capacity run remotely with zero on site personnel.
Most other plants have one to three operators per shift and a couple more people around: a chemist or similar for environmental and fuel testing, a secretary to pick up calls, a couple of guys scheduling maintenance and another couple keeping up the purchase, receipt and warehousing of spare parts.
Plants run themselves these days. Another example of blue collar jobs that have disappeared never to come back.
"
At the end of the day, rate payers are the only source of revenue for the whole electrical grid, from Hoover Dam to the plug where you plug your computer (not counting taxpayers subsidies).
On “Linky Friday #174: Her Majesty’s World”
[A5] There's a story that I've heard attributed to Joseph Kennedy, JFK's father, when ambassador in London. At some dinner there was a portrait of George III in the room, and he gave a toast "to King George, Father or our Country", meaning the USA, explaining later that if it wasn't for the King's intransigence, perhaps there would have not been an Independence at all.
On “WAFB: Man shot by BRPD multiple times to chest, back”
51 dead cops this year so far, and counting. Last one, this last Sunday.
A cop dies in service, it barely makes the local pages, in a slow news day. And yet, I cannot imagine myself going out every morning and facing those odds of not coming back from the office.
Black lives matter, yes. Blue Lives Matter, too.
So, at least, tone down the sarcasm, please. You do have a valid point. Don't waste it in cheap shots
Thanks, and best
On “Morning Ed: USA! {2016.07.04.M}”
I like Greenwald. A lot
But I take objection to "recklessly and secretly install a shoddy home server and worked with Top Secret information on it, then outright lied to the public about it when they were caught"
First of all, I very much it was a secret at all. DoS IT personnel set up and served the system. Everyone that emailed there, including probably POTUS were aware that they were not emailing "secretary@state.gov.us" or whatever her official email was.
Then, for a system of this magnitude, it was not shoddy or recklessly managed. 110 problematic emails in three or four years isn't bad at all in terms of managing communication.
Third, it might not be kosher, but I very much doubt it was illegal. Scores of people were aware of the setting and apparently no one (no one of any weight in the DoS or the WH, from POTUS downwards, found it "illegal". I think a legal opinion from DoS in-house counsel would come exactly were the FBI ended: the setting itself is not illegal, but it creates opportunities to bypass the (hacked) DoS protections. IF (very important) the system is used recklessly, that reckless use would be illegal. The word reckless matters a lot. No recklessness, no illegality.
Last, I don't think HRC outright lied. She might have parsed her words, but that's a different thing.
Tip to avoid IT pestering you about passwords:
Think of a poem or lyrics you like, Use the first letter of each word. Use capitals when the poem has capital letters Every month change a letter for the month number, or use a capital letter in a different place, or change a vowel for a special character
This method will last you years
On “WAFB: Man shot by BRPD multiple times to chest, back”
As the self appointed (*) Blue Lives Matter defender is this forum, can I ask you to please stop, notme (noptme). If you think you are helping the cops, you definitely aren't. You are just embarrassing yourself.
On another news, the investigation was transferred to the FBI and the US Attorney by the BRPD themselves. It was not yanked away from them
And, yes, the second video makes the situation far less clear. So please let's suspend judgement for a bit
And, yes, the police is too trigger happy. The SWATification of America is a major problem. If disproportionately hurts the black population, and it makes the police-community relationships much more difficult.
And, finally, yes. Blue Lives do matter. Coincidentally, the last two Blue fatalities registered were also in LA: Deputy Sheriff David F. Michel, Jr, Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office, killed on June 22th; and Sergeant David Elahi, Sterlington (LA) Police Department, Killed on July 3rd. 51 officers have died in the course of duty so far in 2016. Do give them a thought once in a while.
(*) until a moderator tells me to stop
On “Morning Ed: USA! {2016.07.04.M}”
Nothing replaces bacon.
Bacon came from Heaven, and was given to mankind, as a taste of what paradise will be.
What do you think kept Mother Theresa going year in, year out, but her faith in an eternity of bacon (I mean Paradise)
On “Morning Ed: Politics {2016.07.05.T}”
We have two issues here, both very important, and they should not be conflated:
The dual Justice system is pervasive at all levels. Old boys/girls networks are treated one way, the rest of the hoi-polloi a different way. Even OUR rapists get the benefit of discretion come sentencing time (he's a good kid, are you going to mess HIS life for a bad 20 min HE had?). We can talk about this all day long.
The Republican hypocrisy (and I won't accept "both sides do it the same") is dangerously corroding the faith in our system of government. When "if the VicePresident screams Classified Information in a crowded threatre, well, he just declassified it, nothing to look at" becomes "she is a traitor to the country because she received three emails marked classified in her home server", it makes it clear that is just a juvenile game, in which you will say or do or risk anything (by risk, I mean, other people will pay, with money or blood) just to score points at your opponent.
After all, Brexit as exactly that: "hey, let's get our names on top of the Tory Leadership chart. Yes, the country will suffer, but, old chap, I'm talking about OUR names on the top".
"
Please do not read this as a defense of HRC's stupid, stupid, no good, horrible, really bad, indefensible, email servers idea.
110 emails with classified information sent or received in this server during her whole tenure ? That's a rounding error in the number of emails the Secretary of State receives and sends. I get 110 work emails on a slow day.
I would also want to know how Sent and Received breaks out. If it's 100 Received and only 10 Sent, well, she cannot control that people do not send Classified Info to her private email (that should have never, ever, ever, existed). Ten wrongly Replied or Forwarded emails among the barrage doesn't even get to rounding errors.
From someone who's been in the crosshairs of every Republican officer from the Amarillo TX municipal dog catcher upwards, it was a very stupid move. But it was not a criminal move, it was not ever a wreckless (using the legal meaning of the world) negligence.
Do little people get prosecuted for mistakenly forwarding a classified email instead of the invite to the office Christmas party? Yes. A lot. It should not happen.
But I'm still waiting for a Republican, from dog catcher upwards, to get pissy about disclosing the identity of CIA agents to discredit the writer of a completely accurate report. Not that anything bad happened to the discloser, or even to his stooge.
On “Redlining the Declaration (A Greatest Hit)”
Must be a lawyer in he Committee
On “Morning Ed: Brexit II {2016.07.03.Su}”
Given that the productivity of a -for instance- experienced factory worker in the USA is better than the productivity of a just hired Chinese counterpart, exporting jobs intuitively creates more jobs than it destroys, just to achieve the same level of production output.
So I add my voice calling BS on your initial statement
"
1. Because they are people like you
2. Because a reduction in inequality between societies helps reduce source of international conflict
On “Redlining the Declaration (A Greatest Hit)”
I read in LGM that the language added about "domestic insurrections among us" next to the Indian language, refers to slave insurrections?
I don't always believe LGM, so any view about that?
On “The Siege of London”
I'm convinced now. Let's not invest one more dollar in infrastructure.
Imagine, some of it might go to unionized non-white workers. One of them might even be gay.
So now that infrastructure is not an option, let's get Caterpillar to scrap the robotics based spare parts wharehouse and hire another 800 guys. I'm sure Caterpillar will be happy to oblige.
And after that, we'll bring back to the USA jobs that no longer exist even in China.
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