The final test will be in November but, having seen the improvement in energy and fund raising as well as a demonstration of how a living, functioning party actually works, I feel optimistic that Biden made the correct decision.
Highly plausible. I doubt that the replacement value of a different veep would be worth the foofaraw cost of trying to replace Vance even if he was willing to step aside.
As in you think his pride led him to believe that stepping down would be best for himself and his legacy. Could very well be- though acknowledging that would require, itself, a certain humility.
I would like to note that, outside the desperate clucks of the media which wants a circus, everyone has -already- thrown in the towel, or more accurately seem to have enthusiastically united and wished our new candidate the best.
If you want to claim Fox or OAN or similar right-wing media suspects have been measured and reasonable in their allegations of Bidens age related issues these past 4-5 years you can by all means but we'll have to agree to disagree on the matter.
Yes, for sure, and spending four years saying "Bidens' just a senescent puppet who can barely move" then getting one's posterior handed to them repeatedly, by said allegedly senescent puppet, has a negative effect on one's credibility. It's like how inflation hawks who've been screeching about impending hyper-inflation since 2008 got very little credit when some actual honest to God(ess?) inflation actually popped up for a while.
Credit where it's due, the right finally was more right than wrong about Bidens' decline. Trump definitely played it correctly (or whomever has been telling him to lie low since the Debate has). That doesn't erase they've been more wrong than right about it for four years.
Sure. It's just sad. I always liked Hillary but she put everything she had into getting that nod in '16 and then she fished it up. Even in my own estimations they're diminished and it makes me sad. They were the first American Presidential couple I became aware of (albeit my first election to vote in was 2000).
As a long time fan of the Clintons I hate typing this but feel obligated to do so. I think the outcome of 2016 has put the Clintons at a lower tier of respect/stature that the senior leadership of the party which is why they felt no obligation to forbear from endorsing.
To get credit you have to meet some baseline of creditability in general and most reporters on the right have been claiming Biden was propped up Weekend at Bernies style for years which, obviously hasn't been and isn't the case. I'd definitely grant some credit to the reporters in the middle who'd been raising doubts and ultimately got proven correct but that's a pretty broad gamut of people now from Klein and Chait on the left over to Sullivan and other righties on the center right.
The endorsements have poured in. And Harris, if nominated, still gets all of Bidens money and infrastructure because it's her ticket too. If there's going to be a non-Harris they'll have to move, like, tomorrow. Newsome has endorsed her for instance. I doubt that there'll be much of a challenge to her and very strongly doubt that it'll be a strong challenge if one does arise.
Ghosting Trump is pretty helpful for Trump. When they paraphrase his stream of consciousness rambling into a couple of coherent points that's pasteurizing him for the voters.
Yeah well the money will all be tied up in court until long after the election and I'd bet all of it that the media would both sides it to the nines. It's going to be Biden or Harris.
The GOP would have their pet judge Matthew Kacsmaryk injunction the first slim dime before it could even be spent. To say nothing about how the media would clutch their pearls. "So much for the Dems being more honest, sure Trump is a multi-case convict of fraud, theft and assorted bad behavior but Democratic candidate X just tried to spend money that was donated to a different campaign!"
Heh, hardly, they media would stroke their chins and muse about how both sides have objectionable things about them. Trump would have his various trumpisms but new candidate X gets too angry about them. What are they hiding?
Exactly. Want to start a campaign from scratch with no time and the GOP absolutely pelting you the whole time? Anyone who'd want that probably would be a lousy candidate to start with.
I'm well aware, but I still think "Candidates" is silly talk. It's either Biden or it's Harris. There's no mechanism to transfer the Biden/Harris campaign infrastructure and money to anyone but Biden/Harris.
*Comment archive for non-registered commenters assembled by email address as provided.
On “President Biden Addresses the Nation Regarding Not Seeking Re-election”
I'm not going to give polling much credence until around the beginning of September. Maybe late August though, I have a half day for the state fair.
On “Eton’s Ethically Equivocal Entrance Exam Essay”
The title alone was worth the time reading the essay and the essay was great too! Well done!
On “President Biden Addresses the Nation Regarding Not Seeking Re-election”
The final test will be in November but, having seen the improvement in energy and fund raising as well as a demonstration of how a living, functioning party actually works, I feel optimistic that Biden made the correct decision.
On “The Next Candidate To Be Dumped?”
Highly plausible. I doubt that the replacement value of a different veep would be worth the foofaraw cost of trying to replace Vance even if he was willing to step aside.
"
Hey! My Fallout game was released in '97 that is totally your day!
"
That was where my mind went too. Odd. Maybe he's auditioning to be the new Pip-boy mascot?
On “The Case for Gratitude That Joe Biden Stepped Down”
As in you think his pride led him to believe that stepping down would be best for himself and his legacy. Could very well be- though acknowledging that would require, itself, a certain humility.
On “Joe Biden Announces that he is not Running for Re-election”
I would like to note that, outside the desperate clucks of the media which wants a circus, everyone has -already- thrown in the towel, or more accurately seem to have enthusiastically united and wished our new candidate the best.
"
If you want to claim Fox or OAN or similar right-wing media suspects have been measured and reasonable in their allegations of Bidens age related issues these past 4-5 years you can by all means but we'll have to agree to disagree on the matter.
"
Doesn't.. what's his name... Jason Palmer? Have a delegate from American Samoa?
"
Yes, for sure, and spending four years saying "Bidens' just a senescent puppet who can barely move" then getting one's posterior handed to them repeatedly, by said allegedly senescent puppet, has a negative effect on one's credibility. It's like how inflation hawks who've been screeching about impending hyper-inflation since 2008 got very little credit when some actual honest to God(ess?) inflation actually popped up for a while.
Credit where it's due, the right finally was more right than wrong about Bidens' decline. Trump definitely played it correctly (or whomever has been telling him to lie low since the Debate has). That doesn't erase they've been more wrong than right about it for four years.
"
Sure. It's just sad. I always liked Hillary but she put everything she had into getting that nod in '16 and then she fished it up. Even in my own estimations they're diminished and it makes me sad. They were the first American Presidential couple I became aware of (albeit my first election to vote in was 2000).
This time passing thing is something else.
"
As a long time fan of the Clintons I hate typing this but feel obligated to do so. I think the outcome of 2016 has put the Clintons at a lower tier of respect/stature that the senior leadership of the party which is why they felt no obligation to forbear from endorsing.
"
To get credit you have to meet some baseline of creditability in general and most reporters on the right have been claiming Biden was propped up Weekend at Bernies style for years which, obviously hasn't been and isn't the case. I'd definitely grant some credit to the reporters in the middle who'd been raising doubts and ultimately got proven correct but that's a pretty broad gamut of people now from Klein and Chait on the left over to Sullivan and other righties on the center right.
"
I think that is very cogently written and agree entirely.
"
It went nowhere.
"
The endorsements have poured in. And Harris, if nominated, still gets all of Bidens money and infrastructure because it's her ticket too. If there's going to be a non-Harris they'll have to move, like, tomorrow. Newsome has endorsed her for instance. I doubt that there'll be much of a challenge to her and very strongly doubt that it'll be a strong challenge if one does arise.
"
I am a member of an organized party, I am a Democrat!
My guy! Thanks Joe.
On “From The Los Angeles Times: Schiff calls on Biden to drop out, citing ‘serious concerns’ he can’t win”
Ghosting Trump is pretty helpful for Trump. When they paraphrase his stream of consciousness rambling into a couple of coherent points that's pasteurizing him for the voters.
"
Yeah well the money will all be tied up in court until long after the election and I'd bet all of it that the media would both sides it to the nines. It's going to be Biden or Harris.
"
The GOP would have their pet judge Matthew Kacsmaryk injunction the first slim dime before it could even be spent. To say nothing about how the media would clutch their pearls. "So much for the Dems being more honest, sure Trump is a multi-case convict of fraud, theft and assorted bad behavior but Democratic candidate X just tried to spend money that was donated to a different campaign!"
"
Heh, hardly, they media would stroke their chins and muse about how both sides have objectionable things about them. Trump would have his various trumpisms but new candidate X gets too angry about them. What are they hiding?
"
Exactly. Want to start a campaign from scratch with no time and the GOP absolutely pelting you the whole time? Anyone who'd want that probably would be a lousy candidate to start with.
"
He's entitled to of course. As for the Clintons... ehhh...
"
I'm well aware, but I still think "Candidates" is silly talk. It's either Biden or it's Harris. There's no mechanism to transfer the Biden/Harris campaign infrastructure and money to anyone but Biden/Harris.
*Comment archive for non-registered commenters assembled by email address as provided.