Nearly Muslim majority country on this planet declares itself to be an officially Muslim country and in non-trival ways. They have enforced blasphemy and apostacy laws and Muslim state symbolism everywhere. Many political parties that declare themselves to be Muslim political parties. The Palestinians themselves say that they see Palestine as a Muslim country connected to other Muslims countries with any non-Muslim just kind of being there like a piece of furniture. The Muslim countries have an entire international organization where they go and chest thump about being Muslim. Why should Jews want to live in countries like this?
They say this openly and in English. On my social media feed, since the algorithm gives me Pro-Israel and Pro-Palestinian propaganda, I've seen numerous posts trying to pass what is clearly Tel Aviv, both now and pre-state, as a "Palestinian beach city." A few years ago, the Pro-Palestinian propagandists tried to present the Zionist and all Jewish mandate football team as a Palestinian football team and evidence that Palestine was a real country destroyed by the vile "Zionists". The Palestinians and their Muslim allies aren't being exactly subtle about this.
The Western liberals and leftists just refuse to believe that they might actually be serious about this. "Muslim Palestine" and Islamist rhetoric goes in one ear and gets scrambled in the brains into ANC, multicultural rainbow Palestine with no evidence.
Even in contexts not related to the I/P conflict, we see that the entire burden of good Jewish-Muslim relations is placed on Jews. The Algerians kicked out their Jews to France than when they immigrate to France themselves continued to terrorize the Jews their. It is the Jews that are supposed to reach out and deal with this patiently while the Muslim responsibility to confront their own crazies is zero.
It is more than wanting my side to lose. It is wanting Jews to embrace second-class citizenship status that liberals and leftists would find intolerable for anybody else while pretending we are living in a secular multicultural democracy.
Hezbollah is getting off lightly if Israel is only making it harder for them to communicate with each other. After October 7th, these types of old school Mossad actions are how many people wanted Israel to respond to it. Now that Israel is doing these old school Mossad actions, everybody is like "no, no. not like that."
Like Hamas, Hezbollah, and their Western fan boys and girls ever cared about Israeli citizens just going about their business when they attacked them? Instead they dance, laugh, and sing when Israelis get slaughtered.
I am utterly tired of the people who think that they have unlimited right to wage war against Israel and Jews world wide have us respond like both our hands are tied around our backs. They demand that we respect and love them while going to the bathroom on us behind our backs.
Western liberals are so tied up in knots about not saying anything racist or Islamophobic that they have no way of dealing with the vast amounts of Jew hatred that exists among Muslim's world wide. Instead, we Jews are expected to deal with all of this with a stiff upper lip and wait patient centuries for it to change but nothing can be done or said to hasten the change. Meanwhile, our enemies get to wage unlimited war.
John Updike had a famous quote about a true New Yorker being somebody who upon hearing believes that a person who lives somewhere else is in a sense just kidding. The true anti-Semite is the same. They believe that when they hear about Jews like being Jews, they believe that we are just kidding.
As mentioned previously, one of my theories on why the Israel-Palestinian/Jewish-Muslim conflict has gone on for so long is that losing to the Jews of all people, and after the Holocaust at that, was too much of a psychological impossibility to Palestinians, other Arabs, and Muslims. Sure they could lose to the Christians and the Hindus but those are warrior peoples like them. The Jews? Jews haven't won any battles in nearly two thousand years. We were crushed since antiquity. To lose to them is like a young muscular guy in his twenties losing to a middle aged, pudgy accountant with a receding hair line and a mustache. Who loses to them?
Luckily, we Jews couldn't care less what the International Caring Community and Chattering Classes think about us. These are people who demand our support for their causes because of our history but also conspire to destroy all forms of culture and identity. They look at decades, centuries, or millennia old Jewish communities being destroyed in a blink of an instant and say it doesn't matter because of anti-colonialism and the Jews have a portable culture so it really isn't that bad anyway. Damn them to hell.
You mean like the people who were out and about on October 8th celebrating the death of Jewish kids? Or maybe there is no such thing as a Jewish baby or kid in your cosmology and we are all old people who need to die or at least accept our second class citizenship stnadard under the banner of Islam?
Hezbollah's rockets killed Israeli kids and those kids weren't even Jews. They were Israeli Arabs. Nobody on the Left seemed to care about that.
My theory and it is mine is that the anti-Semitic Left thinks that the Jews take up way too much oxygen based on our numbers and they want us to be more like the Zoroastrians or Assyrians, one of those small groups that just meekly accept our subordination in the world.
Hezbollah seems really shocked about the pager incident. They don't seem to realize that actually firing rockets into Israel is going to have consequences. There is an arrogance that Muslims possess when it comes to Israel and Jews that they can't seem to get out of. Like they really don't understand why Jews want a place of our own and don't want to be second class citizens in officially Muslim countries and non-trivially Muslim at that. These leads credence to my theory is that a big reason why the I/P conflict has continued for so long is that Muslims can't admit that they lost to Jews of all people. Losing to the Christians and Hindus might be one thing but the Jews is something else.
It was most likely done by Israel but I find it really difficult to be sympathetic with Hezbollah in this. Hezbollah did not have to enter the Israel-Hamas War on the side of Hamas but they elected to. They are then shocked that Israel retaliates back including after Hezbollah kills a dozen, checks notes, Arab Israeli children with their rockets.
There is a a lot of arrogance that the Islamists and their Further Left sympathizers in the rest have with Jews in general and Israel in particular. They seem genuinely shocked that Israel isn't just rolling over after the latest glorious push or that Israel strikes back after getting attacked. Even more moderate Muslims seem genuinely confused why Jews don't want to be subsidiary citizens of an officially Muslim state connected to other officially Muslim states and want a place of our own, which so obviously annoys Muslims to know end and we should really just listen to them.
Hezbollah vows revenge against Israel after a series of pagers used by Hezbollah for communication explodes. This reminds me a lot of the accusations about Israel training dolphins to harm Egypt from several years ago. The amount of conspiracy theorizing in the Muslim world, mainly aimed at Jews, is amazing. It never occurs to them that they might be the messed up ones. Everything that goes wrong for them is the fault of Israel and Jews.
Like many ideological wars against Jewish self-determination, the edited opening manages to make the emergence of Zionism without context. No mention of the anti-Semitism in Europe and exclusion of the Jews where we lived. It is just something that we decided to get up and do on our own because of reasons. These anti-Zionist activists can explain to you at great length why Jewish self-determination is evil but get immensely dense with not understanding why Jews do not like being second class citizens under officially Muslim polities. Even if you assume that Jews are a mere religious group, it should be a no brainer that we don't want to live as second class citizens of another religious polity.
They haven not managed to do much to the rest of the very long article but the problem with a lack of gate keepers is that Wikipedia is frequently used to fight ideological battles. Generally, I find that Pro-Palestinian activists like direct confrontation in places that have to do with Zionism or Israel or any Pro-Israel memes and posts on social media than Pro-Israel people do. They are relentless. Many of them also get money for doing this.
You realize that violent crime, especially the type leading to great injury and death, is way down from the mid to late 20th century peak, right? Things have changed immensely.
Is the reason you keep using Baltimore because it is the only talking point you have that matches your priors? Like the one classic grim inner city school district that still exists and you are milking it for all it's worth? Because if Baltimore is literally the only example of this in a country our size than we are doing a pretty damn good job.
Many people see legitimately elected Democratic politicians exercising their mandate as dictatorship because reasons. Republicans who try to prevent Democratic action are not dictatorial because they believe Republicans stand for freedom. Naturally, I don't believe this myself but more than a few Americans see it this way.
Most of the domestic political violence has come front the Right my entire life. Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City, and nearly everything under Bush II and Trump.
My theory and it is mine, and going to be unpopular, is that maintaining a small l-liberal society always required a certain amount of ideological management. There were somethings that simply could not be said in polite company. Part of the old gatekeeper system in the media was ideological management and making sure the fringes of the Right and the Left stayed marginalized. Europeans, Canadians, Australians, and New Zealanders managed to do this a bit harder than Americans. The Enoch Powells and Jean Marie Le Pens were kept more under control than the George Wallace's and other fire breathers but even in the United States somethings were beyond the pale. Lee Atwater's famous quote about the n-word and dog whistles is an example of this.
Maybe there have always been a lot of wackos out there. The mid-20th century small l-liberal consensus could have been more than illusory and the Internet is just revealing how many nut jobs exist. Maybe the mid-20th century media landscape and gate keepers helped maintain a liberal consensus that is now impossible to have.
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On “Open Mic for the week of 9/16/2024”
Nearly Muslim majority country on this planet declares itself to be an officially Muslim country and in non-trival ways. They have enforced blasphemy and apostacy laws and Muslim state symbolism everywhere. Many political parties that declare themselves to be Muslim political parties. The Palestinians themselves say that they see Palestine as a Muslim country connected to other Muslims countries with any non-Muslim just kind of being there like a piece of furniture. The Muslim countries have an entire international organization where they go and chest thump about being Muslim. Why should Jews want to live in countries like this?
They say this openly and in English. On my social media feed, since the algorithm gives me Pro-Israel and Pro-Palestinian propaganda, I've seen numerous posts trying to pass what is clearly Tel Aviv, both now and pre-state, as a "Palestinian beach city." A few years ago, the Pro-Palestinian propagandists tried to present the Zionist and all Jewish mandate football team as a Palestinian football team and evidence that Palestine was a real country destroyed by the vile "Zionists". The Palestinians and their Muslim allies aren't being exactly subtle about this.
The Western liberals and leftists just refuse to believe that they might actually be serious about this. "Muslim Palestine" and Islamist rhetoric goes in one ear and gets scrambled in the brains into ANC, multicultural rainbow Palestine with no evidence.
Even in contexts not related to the I/P conflict, we see that the entire burden of good Jewish-Muslim relations is placed on Jews. The Algerians kicked out their Jews to France than when they immigrate to France themselves continued to terrorize the Jews their. It is the Jews that are supposed to reach out and deal with this patiently while the Muslim responsibility to confront their own crazies is zero.
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They are sneered at by some but others defend them. Nobody does anything about it.
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It is more than wanting my side to lose. It is wanting Jews to embrace second-class citizenship status that liberals and leftists would find intolerable for anybody else while pretending we are living in a secular multicultural democracy.
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Hezbollah is getting off lightly if Israel is only making it harder for them to communicate with each other. After October 7th, these types of old school Mossad actions are how many people wanted Israel to respond to it. Now that Israel is doing these old school Mossad actions, everybody is like "no, no. not like that."
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Like Hamas, Hezbollah, and their Western fan boys and girls ever cared about Israeli citizens just going about their business when they attacked them? Instead they dance, laugh, and sing when Israelis get slaughtered.
I am utterly tired of the people who think that they have unlimited right to wage war against Israel and Jews world wide have us respond like both our hands are tied around our backs. They demand that we respect and love them while going to the bathroom on us behind our backs.
Western liberals are so tied up in knots about not saying anything racist or Islamophobic that they have no way of dealing with the vast amounts of Jew hatred that exists among Muslim's world wide. Instead, we Jews are expected to deal with all of this with a stiff upper lip and wait patient centuries for it to change but nothing can be done or said to hasten the change. Meanwhile, our enemies get to wage unlimited war.
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Sounds like Muslim doing conspiracy theories about the Jews again.
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John Updike had a famous quote about a true New Yorker being somebody who upon hearing believes that a person who lives somewhere else is in a sense just kidding. The true anti-Semite is the same. They believe that when they hear about Jews like being Jews, they believe that we are just kidding.
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As mentioned previously, one of my theories on why the Israel-Palestinian/Jewish-Muslim conflict has gone on for so long is that losing to the Jews of all people, and after the Holocaust at that, was too much of a psychological impossibility to Palestinians, other Arabs, and Muslims. Sure they could lose to the Christians and the Hindus but those are warrior peoples like them. The Jews? Jews haven't won any battles in nearly two thousand years. We were crushed since antiquity. To lose to them is like a young muscular guy in his twenties losing to a middle aged, pudgy accountant with a receding hair line and a mustache. Who loses to them?
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Luckily, we Jews couldn't care less what the International Caring Community and Chattering Classes think about us. These are people who demand our support for their causes because of our history but also conspire to destroy all forms of culture and identity. They look at decades, centuries, or millennia old Jewish communities being destroyed in a blink of an instant and say it doesn't matter because of anti-colonialism and the Jews have a portable culture so it really isn't that bad anyway. Damn them to hell.
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You mean like the people who were out and about on October 8th celebrating the death of Jewish kids? Or maybe there is no such thing as a Jewish baby or kid in your cosmology and we are all old people who need to die or at least accept our second class citizenship stnadard under the banner of Islam?
Hezbollah's rockets killed Israeli kids and those kids weren't even Jews. They were Israeli Arabs. Nobody on the Left seemed to care about that.
"
My theory and it is mine is that the anti-Semitic Left thinks that the Jews take up way too much oxygen based on our numbers and they want us to be more like the Zoroastrians or Assyrians, one of those small groups that just meekly accept our subordination in the world.
"
Hezbollah seems really shocked about the pager incident. They don't seem to realize that actually firing rockets into Israel is going to have consequences. There is an arrogance that Muslims possess when it comes to Israel and Jews that they can't seem to get out of. Like they really don't understand why Jews want a place of our own and don't want to be second class citizens in officially Muslim countries and non-trivially Muslim at that. These leads credence to my theory is that a big reason why the I/P conflict has continued for so long is that Muslims can't admit that they lost to Jews of all people. Losing to the Christians and Hindus might be one thing but the Jews is something else.
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Trump vows to arrest all who oppose him:
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/09/trump-when-i-win-the-people-who-tried-to-defeat-me-are-going-to-prison
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It's a second level spell in D&D.
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Now if only this diversity was more than a one way street where Jews have to listen to anti-Zionists but anti-Zionists don't have to listen to Jews.
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It was most likely done by Israel but I find it really difficult to be sympathetic with Hezbollah in this. Hezbollah did not have to enter the Israel-Hamas War on the side of Hamas but they elected to. They are then shocked that Israel retaliates back including after Hezbollah kills a dozen, checks notes, Arab Israeli children with their rockets.
There is a a lot of arrogance that the Islamists and their Further Left sympathizers in the rest have with Jews in general and Israel in particular. They seem genuinely shocked that Israel isn't just rolling over after the latest glorious push or that Israel strikes back after getting attacked. Even more moderate Muslims seem genuinely confused why Jews don't want to be subsidiary citizens of an officially Muslim state connected to other officially Muslim states and want a place of our own, which so obviously annoys Muslims to know end and we should really just listen to them.
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The IDF is apparently good at hacking and tracking cellphones. Pagers are harder to deal with.
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Hezbollah vows revenge against Israel after a series of pagers used by Hezbollah for communication explodes. This reminds me a lot of the accusations about Israel training dolphins to harm Egypt from several years ago. The amount of conspiracy theorizing in the Muslim world, mainly aimed at Jews, is amazing. It never occurs to them that they might be the messed up ones. Everything that goes wrong for them is the fault of Israel and Jews.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/dozens-hezbollah-members-wounded-lebanon-when-pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17/
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Like many ideological wars against Jewish self-determination, the edited opening manages to make the emergence of Zionism without context. No mention of the anti-Semitism in Europe and exclusion of the Jews where we lived. It is just something that we decided to get up and do on our own because of reasons. These anti-Zionist activists can explain to you at great length why Jewish self-determination is evil but get immensely dense with not understanding why Jews do not like being second class citizens under officially Muslim polities. Even if you assume that Jews are a mere religious group, it should be a no brainer that we don't want to live as second class citizens of another religious polity.
"
They haven not managed to do much to the rest of the very long article but the problem with a lack of gate keepers is that Wikipedia is frequently used to fight ideological battles. Generally, I find that Pro-Palestinian activists like direct confrontation in places that have to do with Zionism or Israel or any Pro-Israel memes and posts on social media than Pro-Israel people do. They are relentless. Many of them also get money for doing this.
"
You realize that violent crime, especially the type leading to great injury and death, is way down from the mid to late 20th century peak, right? Things have changed immensely.
"
Is the reason you keep using Baltimore because it is the only talking point you have that matches your priors? Like the one classic grim inner city school district that still exists and you are milking it for all it's worth? Because if Baltimore is literally the only example of this in a country our size than we are doing a pretty damn good job.
"
Many people see legitimately elected Democratic politicians exercising their mandate as dictatorship because reasons. Republicans who try to prevent Democratic action are not dictatorial because they believe Republicans stand for freedom. Naturally, I don't believe this myself but more than a few Americans see it this way.
On “Missing the Forest for the Trees on Springfield”
Most of the domestic political violence has come front the Right my entire life. Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City, and nearly everything under Bush II and Trump.
"
My theory and it is mine, and going to be unpopular, is that maintaining a small l-liberal society always required a certain amount of ideological management. There were somethings that simply could not be said in polite company. Part of the old gatekeeper system in the media was ideological management and making sure the fringes of the Right and the Left stayed marginalized. Europeans, Canadians, Australians, and New Zealanders managed to do this a bit harder than Americans. The Enoch Powells and Jean Marie Le Pens were kept more under control than the George Wallace's and other fire breathers but even in the United States somethings were beyond the pale. Lee Atwater's famous quote about the n-word and dog whistles is an example of this.
Maybe there have always been a lot of wackos out there. The mid-20th century small l-liberal consensus could have been more than illusory and the Internet is just revealing how many nut jobs exist. Maybe the mid-20th century media landscape and gate keepers helped maintain a liberal consensus that is now impossible to have.
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