Trump Term Two, Day One, Executive Orders

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  1. Michael Siegel
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    Lawlessness. Half of this he doesn’t have the authority to do and the other half is BS.Report

  2. Jaybird
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    Mount Denali got its name changed back to Mount McKinley.Report

  3. Marchmaine
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    Ok, I can feel my anti-Trump non-Republican Solidarity party enjoyer calling balls and strikes credibility wearing off in the other thread… so here’s one we can all condemn as plain old bad.

    And, not just the usual ‘dumb bad’ but actual bad bad… triple bad bad bad for the people actually convicted of Sedition.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/granting-pardons-and-commutation-of-sentences-for-certain-offenses-relating-to-the-events-at-or-near-the-united-states-capitol-on-january-6-2021/

    In a properly functioning Republic, we’d impeach him for this.Report

  4. Saul Degraw
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    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/day-two

    After a morning meeting, I sat down to my computer around 11:30 a.m. ET and read two reader emails picked more or less at random out of my inbox. The first was from an American expat. The gist of his email was that American liberals — Blue America, for lack of a better descriptor — are totally unprepared for what’s coming down the pike toward them. The second was from a federal government employee reviewing the executive orders relevant to the federal workforce and explaining to me in so many words, ‘yeah, good luck with that.’ The expat’s email was generally more pessimistic and totalizing than I’m inclined to be. You may differ and you may be right; who knows? But in general the two emails together captured the moment as well or better than any report, essay or interview I might have read — a mix of actions and red flags almost unimaginable by any normal standard (though in virtually every case unsurprising) mixed with an underbrush of the sheer size, inertia and difficulty of whatever changes Trump is trying to make. They’re both true. Both true at once.

    The best way to understand most of these executive orders is that they are statements of intent. That’s actually what an “executive order” is, in its origin: even in the much smaller federal government of a century ago, let alone two and a half centuries ago, the federal government was always a big thing — geographically if not in comparison to what we know today. The President can’t talk to everyone who works for him as head of the executive branch. So executive orders are ways of making clear, putting on paper, what his directions are.

    At a fundamental level, they are, especially for Trump, performative. They become real when his appointees begin acting on them and they get litigated in courts, and validated or not validated. Pardons and commutations are real. Those things actually happened yesterday. They’re done. People are out of jail. That can’t be reversed. And Trump appears to have pardoned or commuted either every Jan. 6th convict/indictee or almost all of them. (This last marginal difference is unclear; but if a few stragglers weren’t released, he released the most dangerous and the most violent.) It’s important to understand the difference.

    One thing I found interesting last night is that as lawyers began reading through the EOs, they noticed something pretty consistent. They were sloppy and contradictory, often doing things the authors hadn’t even intended. Is that a big deal? Well, yes and no. It’s the President’s will. So he can — mostly — express his will again or kind of as many times as he wants to. Fundamentally if President Trump wants to do X he’s not going to be stopped because an executive order was a sloppy cut and paste job, which many of these were. Success or failure is going to come down to three variables: 1) court action, 2) how much focus and determination his appointees have in putting them into effect and 3) public opinion. But it’s an indication that the belief that Trump’s team is more tried, tested and expert this time around may simply not be true. And that’s an important fact to know.Report

    • Philip H in reply to Saul Degraw
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      From inside – if only that were true. We are already getting very specific direction to implement many of his EOs. Direction from career civil servants acting as political appointees – as they do every transition. They got their direction from somewhere.

      His team is more competent then you think.Report

  5. Jaybird
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    The head of the FCC has an interesting thread about DEI and how one of the executive orders was to “end the promotion of DEI”.

    It’s gone from the FCC’s budget. No more advisory groups, no more equity action plans, no more DEI analysis in the economic reports.Report

    • InMD in reply to Jaybird
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      Good riddance.Report

        • Saul Degraw in reply to North
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          And fascism took hold of the land because lo, the centerist declare the woke was worseReport

          • Jaybird in reply to Saul Degraw
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            “Is that a reason to stop being woke? Maybe be less woke?”
            “LOL. LMAO.”Report

          • North in reply to Saul Degraw
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            Well, to be clear, the centrists said “this seems not very helpful as a practical matter and pure poison as a political matter”, the idealists answered “even trying to assign a name to this, let alone critiquing it, is racist” and then the voters said “yup, woke is worse”. And here we are. Though, let us be clear, the question of wokeism is only one of many elements many of which make the centrists look bad too.Report

            • LeeEsq in reply to North
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              Woke is mainly ivory tower discussions that moved into online spaces with a slightly bigger number of speakers. The big problem with a lot of it is that it comes across as really doctrinaire to normies. I don’t think it turns people away from liberalism or leftism but it definitely can turn them off from politics. Take for example discussions about what books should be read in school. Real world people will speak about including non-white or LGBT authors. Online left edgelord people speak about cancelling white male authors with glee. Totally different ways of approaching the same topic.Report

        • Saul Degraw in reply to North
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          DEI might be the closest thing the left as to a wingnut grift but it is more tedious than actually harmful and if done right, it could theoretically be beneficial (it will never be done right because that requires time, effort, and money that doesn’t produce a profit).

          But this order is only limited to the federal government and it is really not worth getting underwear in a twist over DEI considering all the other damage Trump and Co. is going to do.

          Coalition building means having to grin and bear some things you dislike sometimes.

          How long before JB trolls on the sentence above?Report

          • Jaybird in reply to Saul Degraw
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            I think it’s a fine observation. I think that Omnicause thinking is actively bad for the Democrats.

            Do you think that the moral leadership will be willing to embrace some vulgar utilitarianism to get a handful more bedfellows? “Guys, guys, guys… we’re here to talk about fighting Trump. We’re not going to open with a Land Acknowledgment and we’re not going to talk about Gaza.”

            Think you can get away with that?

            Because I lean “no” for the moment.Report

            • North in reply to Jaybird
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              I mean, you’re flagrantly wrong about that. Harris had multiple instances of doing this exact thing you’re describing during her campaign and she “got away with it” just fine from the Dems and even the identarian lefties. She lost, partially, because she hoped she didn’t have to go from mostly not talking about it to actively talking against it, sure, and couldn’t because of her mistakes in 2020 but she did do exactly what you’re referring to.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1n7QBi53ZsReport

          • North in reply to Saul Degraw
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            You and I don’t disagree much Saul. DEI is assuredly, along with a terrifyingly large number of NGO’s and nonprofits, the left wing equivalent of the rights’ megapastor Christian circuit. And, much like the megapastor Christians before it, the whole thing has made the left look bad and steered the left in unproductive cul de sacs.

            I would never, ever, say that Trump is worth getting rid of DEI. We seemed to be steadily rolling it back on our own. But I have no qualms about saying that Trump tossing it out is probably more good than bad. Those highly educated folks will simply have to find other jobs instead.Report

  6. InMD
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    My reactions are as follows:

    1. EO on Birthright citizenship- bad policy for reasons I went onto on other post, probably unconstitutional.

    2. Border Emergency- unclear what this actually does, if anything. Seems likely to be empty posturing.

    3. Getting rid of work remote bad, getting rid of DEI good, don’t know enough about the protections but my anecdotal experience from my brief stint as a federal employee was that there was little discipline or accountability anywhere.

    4. Paris- bad, but probably doesn’t mean much given the chances of anyone meeting what they agreed to are already low. Climate will be mitigated (or not) by tech not treaties.

    5. Weaponization of the government- unclear what this actually means.

    6. TikTok- very bad if in fact unilaterally disregarding a law passed by Congress.

    7. 1/6 Pardons- also very bad for reasons that seem too obvious to require further explanation.Report

    • LeeEsq in reply to InMD
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      1. Ending Birthright citizenship by EO isn’t unconstitutional if five out of four Supreme Court Justices say it is fine by sophistry.

      2. It means that asylum seekers can’t enter the United States through the Mexican-US border along with other people even if they have visas and such.

      3. I’m very meh on DEI but the right is not going after it in good faith but as a bogeyman. Getting rid of remote work is a way to exert dominance and insure compliance.

      4, 5, and 6 agreee.

      7. Trump needs his freikorps.Report

  7. Jaybird
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    Trump just rescinded Lyndon Johnson’s EO 11246. That’s the Affirmative Action one.Report

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