When War Becomes Criminal
In an usual development, the AP reports that Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant have been named along with three leaders of Hamas as targets of arrest warrants by the ICC. The charges must be approved by a three-judge panel before the warrants are issued.
Even then, Netanyahu won’t be in imminent danger of arrest. Israel is not a member country of the ICC so the warrants would not be enforced there. The United States and five other countries (China, Iraq, Libya, Qatar, and Yemen) are also not parties to the court. Other than those seven countries, the entire world is affiliated with the ICC.
The problem could confine Netanyahu to Israel, however. If the warrants are issued and Netanyahu or the other targets travel through one of the countries in the majority of the world that make up the court, he could be arrested and extradited for trial.
I read a similar scenario in a fiction book a couple of decades ago. John J. Nance’s 2001 book, “Headwind,” describes an international attempt to arrest a former US president who is traveling in Europe. The president in the book seemed to be based on George W. Bush, another political figure who was often accused in the media of war crimes.
I have mixed emotions about the charges. I don’t necessarily disagree with the notion of holding world leaders accountable for crimes against humanity, but I do disagree with the moral equivalence of charging Israeli leaders along with the leaders of Hamas. After all, Hamas not only initiated the war with unprovoked attacks against Iraeli civilians, attacks in which numerous atrocities and sexual crimes were committed, but Hamas has also been responsible for decades of terrorist and rocket attacks against Israel even before the start of the current war. Hamas has raised targeting civilians to an art form.
Israel’s response to Hamas’s attacks has resulted in thousands of dead civilians, but the similarity ends there. Or mostly anyway.
Dead civilians don’t automatically equate to war crimes. Under international law, it is illegal to purposely target civilians, but it can be lawful to kill civilians out of military necessity. An example of military necessity would be when Hamas hides behind civilan residences, schools, and hospitals. By dressing its fighters in civilian clothes trather than uniforms, Hamas also makes it more difficult for Israel to distinguish between combatants and civilians. Making a distinction between civilians and military forces is another key point of international law, along with maintaining a reasonable proportion of civilian to military casualties.
Israel has historically maintained strict rules of engagement, but it may be the requirement for proportionality that causes them legal problems in this war. In December, the Israeli government admitted that more than 65 percent of deaths in Gaza were civilian. That raises questions about whether Israel’s use of force is proportional, not to mention whether it is adequately distinguishing between Hamas fighters and Gaza civilians.
And then there is the recent report from the State Department. Earlier this month, the US government assessed that Israel may have violated international law or best practices in delaying aid to civilians and not taking adequate steps to avoid civilian casualties.
There are reasons to suspect that Israel is being overzealous in its prosecution of the war. But evidence against Hamas is overwhelming and obvious.
I’d be okay with a closer investigation into Netanyahu’s handling of the war, but so far the evidence does not seem to be there for an arrest and prosecution. Unlike for Yehya Sinwar, Mohammed Deif and Ismail Haniyeh, the three leaders of Hamas who are being targeted with arrest warrants.
I’d say that the world should absolutely hold Hamas and the people who pull the strings of the fighters accountable. If the world had held Hamas accountable for the past 10… 20… 50 years, maybe Israel wouldn’t be waging war in Gaza today.
For far too long, the world looked aside as Hamas and Hezbollah and others attacked and killed Israelis. Israel has built a highly trained and well equipped military not because it wants to slaughter Palestinians but because October 7 was only the culmination in a long series of atrocities by Israel’s enemies.
Israel’s conduct in the war is not blameless. There may have been both international and Israeli laws that were broken, but what some in Israel – and in the United States – don’t understand is that the forces of civilization and humanity have to police ourselves. We have to maintain our civilized societies because if we don’t, we become no better than the barbaric hordes. We can’t beat them if we become them.
It remains to be seen how the International Criminal Court proceedings will play out, but I would love to see Sinwar, Deif, and Haniyeh get their day in court. Maybe they’ll be joined in the courtroom by Vladimir Putin. The ICC issued an arrest warrant for Mr. Putin last year for the crime of unlawfully deporting Ukrainian children to Russia. It could add indiscriminate attacks on civilians to the list of charges as well.
I think, however, that Sinwar, Deif, and Haniyeh are much more likely to get their day in court than Putin. Assuming, that is, that they survive the war.
Biden released a statement:
There is a bunch of footage of Biden saying “We reject the ICC’s application of arrest warrants against Israeli leaders — what’s happening is not genocide” on the twitters… from both pro- and anti- accounts.
The ICC is allowed to play, I guess. Just not with the big boys.Report
Neither the US nor Israel (nor Russia for that matter) have signed the treaties to “join” the ICC. Which means that we can say and do pretty much what we want in that regard. Ignoring the ICC is long standing practice in DC.Report
That’s the thing about sovereign countries – they can ask “you and who’s army?” and you need to have a good answer.Report
Or as Stalin put it “the Pope has so many divisions?” or something like that.Report
“How many divisions has the Pope?” is the line that I heard he gave to Churchill (or his translator, anyway).
A really funny line except, at the time that he asked, the answer was “a lot”.Report
I like how every time Israel’s behavior is brought up, it becomes about numbers.
You realize there are very blatant war crimes that are not ‘Israel has been killing statistically high number of civilians’, right?
Israel has, very deliberately, sniped a bunch of clearly unarmed people trying to get to delivered aid packages, and one notable instances of sniping at people trying to rescue a trapped child… Oh, and they have actually sniped some children too. These are circumstances that, it needs to be stressed, no Israeli soldiers were even vaguely in danger.
Israel has kidnapped doctors and tortured them to death to try to force confessions of helping Hamas.
Israel continues to occupy the West Bank, unlike Gaza this is undisputed, legally speaking, and has continued to not only force out people at gunpoint, which is a war crime, but has deliberately armed civilian terrorists to terrorize people there in an attempt to get them to leave, which is also a war crime, in fact it’s actually textbook ethnic cleansing. (Like, literally, this is how ethnic cleansing works in the modern world governments don’t do it, they just let ‘random uncontrolled militias’ do it.)
I’m just listing the most obvious and easy to prove war crimes here, mostly because I want an answer of whether it is even hypothetically possible for Israel to commit war crimes in everyone’s book?Report
Of course Israel can commit war crimes. The one that I saw involved Israeli soldiers doing something small and petty and tacky. Which means that they were filming themselves doing this. Which means that unit commanders didn’t have the discipline to keep them from doing this nor had the discipline to keep them from filming it and posting it to the wider internet as if they were proud of doing small and petty and tacky things.
And Israel shrugs and says “if you don’t want a war, don’t start one” and asking you to acknowledge that October 7th was bad.
In better news, the ICC also put out warrants for some of the Hamas leadership. So, at least, they didn’t screw that part up.Report
They are _also_ doing those war crimes, but I notice we’ve somehow pivoted to tacky things that individual soldiers might merely be doing against orders, instead of the ‘arming civilian terrorists to terrorize Palestinians in a legally-considered-occupied-territory-under-the-laws-of-war such as to cause them to leave’, a thing that is, again, ethnic cleansing.
A thing that is, objectively, being done with the approval of the Israeli government. It’s easy enough to prove, as the government literally overtly supports this, praises it, gives orders to supply them weapons, bulldozers their houses, and then seizes the land from the people who were driven off. There’s no way to pretend this isn’t something that the Israeli government is not doing, and it is objectively a war crime, straight up actual-textbook ethnic cleansing.
It’s weird how we somehow drifted off that topic. Maybe, when trying to figure out when someone is going to be charged with a crime, we talk about the _very obvious_ crimes that have been blatantly committed in full view of everyone, and not the vague ones of ‘soldiers messing with underwear and filming themselves’ that might or might not qualify.
Likewise, snipers who kill children and civilians who are obviously collecting air-dropped aid are either operating under the Israeli rules of engagement or not. If those are the Israeli rules of engagement, Israel is committing war crimes. If they are not, if thsoe soldiers have decided to murder civilians themselves, they must be legally be prosecuted for those war crimes and discipline restored, or their leadership is, in fact, also committing war crimes.
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I have tried to explain, repeatedly, that war crimes are ‘contagious’, and no one seems to actually understand this. If Israeli soldiers are committing war crimes, and Israel does nothing to stop them, then Israel leadership is, in fact, committing war crimes, and can be charged with them. Even if they never told anyone to do that!
Hell, if Israeli soldiers are committing war crimes and the US is away this _might_ be happening and still helps this in any manner, the _US_ is committing war crimes.
We are used to dealing with the police and corporations, where no one has to take accountability for the actions of their underlings and things just somehow ‘happened’. That is not how war crimes work at all. We all know that ‘just following orders’ isn’t an excuse, but neither is ‘I gave lawful orders and it’s just that soldiers didn’t bother to follow lawfully’…if your soldiers are breaking the law and committing war crimes, you MUST fix that. You have an actual legal obligation, it’s part of your many obligations when running a war, or you are also breaking the law.Report
I have tried to explain, repeatedly, that war crimes are ‘contagious’
I absolutely agree with this. If the soldiers don’t have the operational discipline to not engage in small and petty and tacky marginal war crimes, it wouldn’t be surprising to find out that they’re killing civilians and killing civilians deliberately.
Heck, they’re bragging about doing the marginal stuff. Downright bragging about it.
That is not how war crimes work at all. We all know that ‘just following orders’ isn’t an excuse, but neither is ‘I gave lawful orders and it’s just that soldiers didn’t bother to follow lawfully’…if your soldiers are breaking the law and committing war crimes, you MUST fix that. You have an actual legal obligation, it’s part of your many obligations when running a war, or you are also breaking the law.
I agree with this. 100%. I believe that the Israelis are, in fact, committing war crimes. It’s documented.Report
Fun image going around today: Israeli soldiers filming themselves setting fire to Aqsa Univerisity. Filming themselves in front of shelves of burning books.
I remind people, for no reason, that targeting civilian structures is a war crime. Not destroying incidentally as part of something else being targeted, that can just justified. _Targeting_. They were fully in control of the library, there were no military targets there. Also, this was a university library, which clearly puts it under ‘school’, which has even higher restrictions on destroying.
I also remind people, for no reason, that one of the method of ethnic cleansing is property destruction.
I remind people, again for no reason and wow I seem to have wildly wandered off the topic and am just randomly saying unrelated things today, that attempting to destroy cultural knowledge, such as would be in _university_ libraries, is part of how genocide works, and in fact we have very clear examples for it during the *check notes* Holocaust, specifically with the burning of *checks note again, frowns* allegedly Jewish books. Hmm.
I will then remind people _here_, quite pointedly, how everyone was talking about how bad it looked when a previous fan of J.K. Rowling burned their own books in protest and we were all supposed to be horrified at the optics of that. Cause, you know, book burning inherently looks so bad that the actual context of ‘this is books that someone owned and were destroying, not denying the books to anyone else’ doesn’t even matter.
Book Burning Looks Horrific and no civilized person would ever do anything vaguely looks like it. We all agree with that, right?
And I point out, dropping all pretense, that the actual point I’m making here is not the actual war crimes, it’s how Israeli society is _so broken_ that they think this can even vaguely pass as acceptable. Where exactly do you have to be mentally to think that burning down university libraries, explicitly burning books, is a reasonable thing to do, and film yourself doing, and put online?
At least Hamas seems to understand that their actions outrage people.Report
I agree with that. I think that Israel is acting like there’s some sort of Jim Crow thing going on with a drop of the Tulsa race massacre of 1921.
They’re no longer acting like this is about October 7th at all.Report
“You realize there are very blatant war crimes that are not ‘Israel has been killing statistically high number of civilians’, right?”
Are you interested in comparing war crimes, or is that not useful with you because you hate Jews too bad to think straight about it?Report
Comparing with whom? And to what ends?
I mean I guess you could be in the Two wrongs make a right camp, but where I come from two wrongs are still wrong.Report
I think it’s the whole issue of who gets the “THIS IS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE!” and who gets the “well, you have to understand…”.
October 7th? Killing people at a music festival?
“Well, you have to understand… holding a party at the border of an open-air prison is, itself, an act of aggression. We all remember the comedy bits that involve the kids who can’t go outside and the kids who just got back from the ice cream truck doing a dance in front of their window. “I’ve got ice cream and you don’t! Ha ha!” Well, it’s funny when it’s ice cream, it’s not funny when it’s basic human rights. I’m not saying that October 7th was *GOOD*. I’m just saying that it was inevitable.”
“Israel responding to October 7th was inevitable.”
“WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING GENOCIDE?!?”Report
I remember that very successful story, Star Wars, about how a bunch of oppressed people never fought back. Or The Man in the High Castle. Or, like, all of human history.
*rolls eyes*
October 7th wasn’t inevitable, no specific military operation is inevitable, but it is inevitable that eventually people held down and constantly injured fight back.
This is something we know as humans, but somehow forget when it’s our ally doing it. Because we like to ignore the fact that is actually what is happening.Report
Yeah, I am not surprised that the Palestinians fought back. If that’s the notion you got from my comment, please allow you me to disabuse you of it.Report