Complicated Starbucks Orders Is A Language I Don’t Speak None To Good
I do not drink coffee. I don’t like coffee. Long before I was medically banned from drinking coffee, I still didn’t like coffee. Personally, a food product whose production is more similar to making asphalt for paving than a tasty, refreshing beverage isn’t for me. Frankly, Starbucks is closer to a milkshake shop than the coffee bars of Europe that the Seattle-based bean slingers cosplay as.
But my family members like Starbucks; thus I dutifully have memorized the 14-word instruction to get my daughter’s favorite Starbuck drink juuuust right, and found its place on the menu for a helpful reminder. Personally, I always order a large ice water which has the benefit of being both free and a rebellion against the asinine pseudo-word sizing the Great Green Coffee Menace tries to foist upon the populations. I do like a few of the food offerings but often they are passed to me so over-microwaved a period of time must pass before actually eating them.
Turns out, the complicated Starbucks orders aren’t just annoying, they are beginning to be a drag on business:
The answer is always: Add more stuff, which creates ever more complexity, from supply chain to food safety to packaging to scheduling and delivery. Consider outfits like Pizza Hut that once sold only … pizza. Their calculation today is that they’ve got one pizza oven in each store, and they have to keep it hot through the day anyway, so they ask: What else can we run through this thing, and profitably? And oh, it has to be simple enough for teenagers to operate. That’s why pizzerias are now selling flatbreads, chocolate chip cookies, brownies and Cinnabon mini-rolls — anything that can be baked. Because you always want a Cinnabon after you’ve consumed three slices of pepperoni pizza.
Starbucks has to deal with both a complexity issue and a culture issue. Since the company went public in 1992 at $17 a share, Wall Street pressure meant adding more stores, more snacks and sandwiches and more equipment such as an oven for breakfast items and pastries. Drink variations began to expand well beyond plain coffee — hello, pistachio crème Frappuccino. The company would even add alcohol to its upscale cafes to address the evenings — a time of day that was always weak.
Howard Schultz, who essentially created the company, famously envisioned Starbucks as a “third place,” (after homes and offices) where people could gather and talk and sip. He modeled it on Milanese coffee bars. He also promised workers would get a fair wage and benefits. The first Starbucks, opened at Pike Place Market in Seattle in 1971, was and is laughably simple. The décor and the menu were minimal: coffee, tea and spices. But by 1997, Starbucks was selling a variety of foods and drinks. In 2003, it went all in on customization and personalization.
Starbucks seems culturally conflicted between being the equivalent of a charging station for humans and the rest and refuge area that Mr. Schultz envisioned. Trying to do both is complex in and of itself — what kind of ad messaging do you send out, for instance? What food items do you add or delete for the grab-and-go crowd? And from afar, it can be difficult to tell which version you’re heading toward. The Starbucks near my office in Lower Manhattan has opted for the human charging station model: There are no seats in the store; just pick up your drink and go. But there are mornings when I bypass it because the line for both app-ordered and in-person orders is too long.
Starbucks will be yet another case study in a brand shooting to the heights of success, but not knowing how to sustain itself when the mandate from the shareholders is more, more, more and the fundamental rule of investment is “trees don’t grow to the sky” or the blunter “pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered.” Starbucks the brand is transitioning from the hot, expanding, cool brand to a legacy brand that’s been around for generational business. Kids who grew up with their parents going are now the parents of their own kids, and so forth. If there was a defined line between being a well-known brand with almost universal recognition and folks getting tired of the brand, then far fewer businesses would fall off Mount Success.
Is it even still cool to work from Starbucks? Was it ever, really?
Starbucks needs to avoid the fate of another legacy brand currently struggling, Subway. At one point Subway rose all the way to the number two spot in fast food, but issues from their spokesperson turning out to be a pedophile to being challenged on their corporate definitions of what constituted “tuna” and “bread” left folks not feeling the need to “eat fresh” at the old familiar sub shop. Oversaturation and suspect franchising agreements haven’t helped, but the biggest problem Subway has is folks have better options with better food for the same price point in the same areas.
There are other issues Starbucks needs to be aware of. The grocery store I primarily use has a Starbucks inside of it. Last year, a standalone Starbucks was built 1000 ft away in the same shopping center. The obvious idea is to get the drive thru traffic the in-store misses, which is all well and good. But there are six other Starbucks within a five-mile radius. That isn’t counting the two Dunkins and seven independent coffee shops. And in about a month a Caribou Coffee is opening in the parking lot of the grocery store that has a Starbucks inside it.
That’s a lot of coffee options, even in a caffeine mad world that seemingly can’t get enough bean water with all the fixings.
More tangible is the expense of it. While a coffee addiction will mean money is no object for some, the idea that coffee for four people is roughly the same amount as feeding those same four people at the surrounding fast-food joints, or creeping ever closer to the cost of a tank of gas at the gas station next door, is a real issue. Starbucks is very much a brand aimed at disposable income of certain economic demographics and is thus susceptible to things like inflation and food prices.
But the biggest problem Starbucks has might be generational. The shopping center I described is right across from the high school. Which is smart business, but over the past year has revealed something else Starbucks has to fight. You rarely ever see teenagers there. They don’t like to go into Starbucks. Too many old people on Facebook hanging around.
Thus is thus as the world keeps turning, grinding away time, lives, and businesses like so many coffee beans. All the whip cream and chocolate drizzle won’t stop it.
Besides, I can get a large ice water anywhere and can over-microwave a sandwich at home. You coffee addicts can fend for yourselves.
A complicated order is like “flair” on the waitstaves’ suspenders at one of those goofy-crap-on-the-walls restaurants.
If you just wanted coffee, black, why in the heck would you go to Starbucks? “Coffee, black, two sugars” is barely better.
Your order should be as unique as you are. Are you a black, two sugars? Heck no! You’re a Venti Iced Caramel Macchiato with 1% milk and an extra shot of espresso! With a caramel drizzle, baby!Report
My understanding is that flair was ended as a direct result of being a punchline in Office Space. Maybe we just need Mike Judge to step in.Report
If Mike Judge gave Luanne and Peggy an episode where they tried to outdo each other on the most outlandish Starbucks order they could possibly come up with, it’d be in the ballpark of what ChatGPT would come up with if you asked it for a “funny” Starbucks order.
Hey, let’s ask ChatGPT right now!
I’ll be in italics, ChatGPT will be in bold:
Hey, as a joke, I’m coming up with a convoluted Starbucks order. I’d like the most convoluted Starbucks drink order you can possibly come up with (but it has to be something on the actual menu).
Can you do that for me?
(Don’t worry! I’m not really going to order it! I’m just going to post about it online!)
Here’s a hilariously convoluted Starbucks order that you can post:
“I’d like a Venti, iced, quad, ristretto, 1/2 decaf, whole milk, 4-pump vanilla, 2-pump hazelnut, 3-pump white mocha, light ice, double-blended, extra whipped cream, extra caramel drizzle, 1.5 pump classic syrup, topped with a sprinkle of cinnamon dolce, no foam, with a shot of almond milk, in a Trenta cup, double-cupped, with a short straw, and a side of steamed oat milk.”
It’s a wild mix of options, but all of it is technically possible with the Starbucks menu. Perfect for a fun online post!
The “side of milk” is probably a little out there but everything else is probably within the ballpark of what our local barista sees every three minutes during morning rush.Report
Venti soy vanilla latte with an extra shot, thankyouverymuch.
I rarely go to Starbucks anymore (mostly due to a need to closely regulate my caffeine intake), and I’ve migrated my bean custom to a local roster.Report
Back in the day, when Starbucks did mail order sales of coffee, I realized that all their coffee all tasted the same to me. I was buying all kinds of exotic coffee beans. Turns out it was the roast I didn’t like. I ended up buying the grocery store pre ground stuff and it’s fine. Coffee is a caffeine delivery method for me.
@ Andrew, why the hell are you getting your kid’s coffee? If she wants it, she can order it her self. Doesn’t want to make the trip? No coffee.Report
14 words? Oh Andrew….Report
My tepid steel-man defense of Starbucks would go like this:
The coffee our elders drank was the coffee of soldiers mixing a few beans in a tin cup over an open fire concocted in a wet hole thousands of miles from home; and they liked it; and that’s what restaurants served in tiny 6oz cups. It was, however, terrible coffee by any standard. It is very much akin to the beer situation… f*cking close to water as the old joke goes. It’s hard to remember the disastrous American food culture of the 60s & 70s and 80s… littered with canned foods and time-saving pouches of fake stuff. And aspic.
Its not until the 90s that we see ‘authentic’ foods emerge and get picked up by young GenX’ers coming into funds: Coffee, California cuisine, Micro-breweries, etc. etc. And, this was good.
But, in full agreement with your post, that which was merely ‘authentic’ (the GenX anthem) became ever more expansive to the point that my GenZ daughters introduce me to Chocolate Tahini in my coffee (delicious, by the way); but chasing ‘novelty’ decoupled ‘authenticity’ puts us in a place where complexity becomes the enemy of excellence and we’re faced with a thing that is marvelous in it’s opulence, but unable to deliver on it’s promises… even the things that it once did better than anyone else.
So my paean to Starbucks changes to an elegy as I lament it’s demise even as I sometimes still stop by for a simple small Mocha… well, small Mocha breve with extra whip.Report
I think one of the strangest phenomena I’ve seen in the restaurant industry is fast food companies decreasing their quality, and increasing their prices, to just about the price of the often much better fast causal restaurants in the same market. So if I go to McDonald’s, for example, to get my 4yo a Happy Meal, it’ll cost me like $5.60, but if I go a few blocks further to one of the half dozen fast causal places in a major shopping center and get a kids meal (sans toy), it’ll cost me like $6 with much better food. Why would I go eve go to McDonald’s, then (except that the 4yo really wants the toy, even if she will never, ever play with it).
Starbucks here is in a similar situation, with local or smaller chain coffee shops popping up everywhere, serving much better coffee and fresher food for a very similar price. People still order complex drinks at the nicer cafes, just perhaps with fewer squirt flavors (and as a result, less sugar). If I stop in a Starbucks, it’s going to be because there’s no line and I’m in a big hurry.Report
“fast casual” still takes several minutes to cook the food, and it’s generally not a form that’s easily eaten while driving. McDonald’s has that burger in your hand thirty seconds after you pay for it, and it’s eminently roadable food. So I’d say that the fast food companies have identified the market price for “burger” and are now trading on speed of service. (I don’t really find the quality any less than it was before, although “less than it was before” does not imply “good”.)Report
While it is true that fast casual will never be as fast as fast food, so as long as fast food exists, there will be a market for it, if the only people who eat at fast food restaurants are the ones who either need the food in 30 seconds and/or to be able to eat it while they drive (which you should not do, by the way), or the people who want to save the small difference in price between fast food and fast casual, then some fast food restaurants will survive, but with much less revenue.
I already see this playing out here, where the dining rooms are empty and the lines in the drive-thru probably takes as long as ordering at fast casual would, which probably reduces the fast food customer base even further. Add in food delivery services, and you have even less reason to order Burger King or McDonald’s, much less Subway, which isn’t as fast, isn’t so easy to eat in the car (and definitely isn’t easier than a sandwich from a better shop), doesn’t have a drive-thru anyway, and in cities at least, has a ton of competition from better sandwich shops*.
*Last fall we visited a friend who lives in a small town in Scotland, about 30 minutes outside of Sterling (so, in the middle of nowhere). This town has a population under 6k, but has 3 really good restaurants, and a handful of nice faster food (chip shops, Indian food, Scottish pub food, etc.). In another, even smaller town, mostly just farms, even further into the middle of nowhere, I had this incredible sea food mashed potato dish (I forget what it’s called) in a restaurant and pub so old that Robert Burns once ate there (they made sure everyone who entered knew that). And for another meal in that tiny town, spectacular fish and chips at what is effectively a fast food place. American small towns could learn a thing or two from small Scottish towns’ restaurant game.Report
I was over visiting my best man in Dundee and we drove up the coast to do some sightseeing and we ended up in Stonehaven for lunch. We went to The Bay for fish and chips and it was fantastic. A selection of fish and how you wanted it breaded, which I’d never seen before. If you get back, I highly recommend it.Report
Your simple description has not only flooded my mouth with saliva but also now requires that I go eat my lunch early. I love fish and chips and that sounds divine!Report