The DNC Republicans
I’m not watching the Democratic National Convention. I didn’t watch the Republican one either. I’m just not one to normally tune in for speech after speech when I can get the high points from podcasts and other media outlets. Sympathetic outlets will show the good stuff and opposition outlets will show the “OMG-he-said-what” stuff in their Outrage Du Jour sequences.
Still, for those who do choose to spend their evenings watching the DNC, Tuesday and Wednesday nights were probably pretty interesting. There are quite a few Republican speakers addressing the DNC this year. I guess the planners had to set the schedule carefully to make sure that their Republican guests didn’t rival the number of Democrats at the podium on any given night, although a Republican Night would have presented interesting publicity possibilities.
On Tuesday, Politico reported that no less than four Republicans took the stage in Chicago to endorse Kamala Harris. The Tuesday night crowd wasn’t necessarily people that you would recognize. There was Mayor John Giles of Mesa, Arizona, Stephanie Grisham, communications director and press secretary for Donald Trump, Ana Navarro, a Republican strategist and commentator, and Kyle Sweetser, a construction worker and Republican voter.
The names got bigger on Wednesday. Former congressman Adam Kinzinger, a former lieutenant governor of Georgia, Geoff Duncan, and Olivia Troye, a national security specialist from the Trump Administration, were all scheduled to address the convention as I write this on Wednesday afternoon.
Having dissidents from the other party address political conventions isn’t totally new. I’m old enough to remember when my former governor, Zell Miller, addressed the 2004 Republican convention to warn against John Kerry. This was during another shift in the parties. Conservative Democrats like Miller had governed Georgia since circa about the Civil War if not earlier, but Republicans were still riding a cresting wave of Reagan conservatism.
As a bit of trivia, Miller was largely responsible for the removal of the Confederate battle emblem from Georgia’s state flag, an action that earned him the nickname “Zig Zag Zell.” I opposed the move at the time, but one of the areas where my opinion has shifted is in the need to remove the Confederate legacy from places of honor. I like history, but the bottom line is that the Confederates were people who were committing treason. Although many were good people by the standards of the day, their legacies are tainted by their traitorous actions.
In 2008, Joe Lieberman showed up at the RNC to warn against Barack Obama. Lieberman had been the vice presidential candidate on the ticket with Al Gore only eight years earlier. Like the current Republican Party, Lieberman’s Democratic Party shifted quite a bit in a short time.
One way you can tell which party is more radical and out of the mainstream is by which one’s senior members show up at the opposition conventions. It seems quaint now to think of John Kerry and Barack Obama as dangerously unfit to be president, but that was the case at the time.
It hasn’t just been Democrats crossing the aisle. In 2020, John Kasich, a former governor of Ohio and one of the finalists in the 2016 Republican primary, made the trip to the Democratic convention to warn against Donald Trump.
Even though featuring the opposition at a party convention isn’t unprecedented, the sheer number of Republicans willing to take the stage and endorse Not Trump is. These people are effectively ending their careers. The politicians will likely never be able to successfully run for office again and the aides and consultants will almost certainly be purged from Republican society.
And they won’t be hired by Democrats either. Like me, they may find common cause with the Democrats against Donald Trump and MAGA, but our ideological differences are too great on too many issues for us to call ourselves Democrats. To a lot of Republicans, however, the only issue that matters is Donald Trump.
Those who are political professionals with connections may write a book, find some slots on political talk shows, or if they are lucky, find a spot at a think tank. For the most part, these are poor substitutions for steady work and not what they would prefer to be doing.
My point is that being Never Trump is not good for business. With a few notable exceptions, the money for conservatives is in getting on the Trump Train. That’s one reason why so few Republicans are willing to stand up to Trump. Being principled doesn’t pay the bills. Telling MAGA voters, listeners, and readers what they want to hear does.
If the appearance of a platoon of Republicans at the DNC doesn’t impress you, look at the Republican convention. Not only were there no Democratic speakers, but former Republican presidents and First Ladies were conspicuous in their absence. That includes Melania Trump.
The absences also include a large part of Trump’s cabinet from his first (and probably only) term. Only slightly more than half of Trump’s old cabinet is supporting his re-election bid, and quite a few of those, such as Nikki Haley and Bill Barr, have said that Trump is unfit but are voting for him anyway. I didn’t make a count of how many of these people, like Mark Meadows, are under indictment and may be hoping for pardons or dropped charges if The Former Guy becomes The Future Guy, but it’s a nonzero number. The 57 percent who are backing Trump, many with reservations, don’t represent a slam dunk for the candidate.
Per the Washington Post rundown of 42 former cabinet members, three have openly expressed opposition to Trump’s re-election and the silence is deafening from another 15. The three who have said that they will not support Trump are Mike Pence, former National Security Advisor John Bolton, and former Defense Secretary Mark Esper.
Many of the silent 15 have been openly critical of Trump. Among these are former conservative darlings such as John Kelly, James Mattis, H.R. McMaster, Betsy DeVos, and Elaine Chao, the former Secretary of Transportation who is married to Mitch McConnell.
Who is showing up to the Democratic convention to warn voters not to trust Trump for another four years says a lot, but in the end, who didn’t show up at the Republican convention and who isn’t backing Trump’s re-election may be more telling. A large share of the people who worked alongside Donald Trump have either said he is unfit or are refusing to endorse his campaign. His wife is not campaigning for him.
I’ve written before that when MAGA tells us who they are, we should believe them. We should also believe Trump’s closest associates when they tell voters to run away from a second Trump presidency.
Every political ideology has two types of adherence I suppose.
One believes, “This ideology, if enacted, will bring peace and prosperity and human flourishing to all!”
Another believes, “This ideology, if enacted, will bring suffering and humiliation to those I hate!”
At various times one or the other faction is dominant in a party.
In 1984, the first faction was Dominant in the Republican party. It was Morning In America, and conservatism was delivering good jobs and a secure peace to all.
Today, the second faction has totally eclipsed the first. America is falling, crime is rampant, women are neglecting their duties as wives and mothers and sexual deviance is pervasive.
The overwhelming theme of the DNC was of the first type, hope and joy and inclusive. I can see why a 1984 vintage Republican would be more attracted to the DNC than the RNC.
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I think it’s also telling that the Democratic Party has managed to get far enough right that these folks see it as an exit strategy.Report
Speaking of which: Democrats Scrub Death Penalty Opposition From Campaign Platform.
It’s a smart play. The Death Penalty is pretty popular and arguing against it led to a *LOT* of silly hypotheticals that had to go up against not only actual perpetrators but a core group of death penalty opponents who couldn’t help themselves but post stuff like “Good!” when stories of people like Nasser or Chauvin get shivved in prison.
Part of me is surprised that this happened so closely to “DEFUND THE POLICE!” but another part of me isn’t. Less policing (whether or not less funding was the cause) didn’t work in practice the way that the abolitionists promised.
The quick and fulsome backlash is a demonstration of how dumb the idea was.Report
When we get to less policing that doesn’t involve vindictive, toddler tantrum like “Blue Flu” let me know.
That aside, the popularity of the death penalty has been going down since its peak in the 1990’s (84%). Gallup has it currently around 53%, which is interesting since something like 59% believe its applied unfairly.Report
We skipped over that part, is that okay with you?
Lemme know if you want to discuss getting rid of QI, though!Report
I’m ready!Report
It shocks you mainly because you forget that, while Defund the Police was deeply popular on the internet left, it was not a formal policy of the Democratic Party. So it’s a very big change from what you imagine their policy position was but a considerably smaller move from what their actual policy position was.Report
Assumes facts not in evidence. The Democratic Party is farther to the left than it has ever been in the lifetimes of anyone here.
The Democratic Stance on immigration and LBTGQ rights is much further to left than anything you would see in Europe. The UK is in many ways vehemently anti-trans. The Democratic Party is also going for consumer protection and against price gouging.
I find it astonishing that there are people who insist that the Democratic Party would be a center-right party in Europe and think that this is true because they have some imaginary version of Copenhagen in their heads that is a UBI paradise.Report
Europe in the minds of Americans is more myth than reality. Everything is free, there’s no crime, and humanity flourishes in a beneficent Goldilocks zone of social democracy and great cafes. Or so the fairy tales have it.
One thing I will say is that the unwillingness to tax the ever living sh*t out of the middle class puts the Democrats to the right of many center left European parties. However I increasingly believe that has more to do with historical contingencies than anything else.
Otherwise I think you’re right.Report
Canada is also seen as this mystical and magical liberal land. I had to correct a friend of mine, half white/half Latina, about this several months ago in a post-COVID trip to Europe and pointed out she did not hang out with the local derp.
Many American liberals and progressives don’t understand that the European welfare state is fueled by higher taxes not just on the wealthy but what would be upper middle class or middle class people in the United States as well.Report
Additionally, while tax rates are important, if you spend without regard to revenue, they’re just not limiting.Report
Republicans began to prove that under Reagan.Report
Having lived in Spain in the 1980’s, and traveling there regularly, I try to maintain a neutral approach to European existence. I am not one to claim the Democrats match European anything, just that they are not as liberal as anyone – including the party – wants to believe in the context of US political history.
Where they are hardest right seems to be their economic stance. Its great that Biden went down on the picket lines last year and that the IRA and BIL are putting big money into the economy for long overdue investments. If you look closely however, a lot of that funding is hitting large corporations. And in terms of actual legislation passed, or at least not repealed, Democrats have a shoddy record of protecting small business and labor. And current Democratic foreign policy is Republican foreign policy of 30 or 40 years ago.
Perhaps that will change, but based on history to date, Democrats are not a left party. In some areas they may finally be approaching center left -as defined in the US – but they aren’t there yet.Report
For better (not true) or worse (probably true), there’s no Republican speaking at the DNC who carries anywhere near the weight of RFK Jr.Report
I think the Republicans who would are all quietly waiting to see if TFG gets shellacked but don’t want to be out and about with that thought in case he doesn’t.Report
Are you implying that there are a lot of Republicans who would speak at the DNC?Report
I’m openly stating that there are few Republicans who are inclined to speak out AGAINST TFG in public fora.Report
This blog supplies plenty of evidence of that.Report
Public fora such as the DNC?Report
Or Fox News or pretty much anywhere. How many time have we seen “senior Republicans” quoted anonymously who say they want him gone but o one goes on the record.Report
OK, I had read that as “quite a few Republicans…”. So I’m not sure what point you were initially making. But this isn’t that important a topic anyway, so don’t worry about it.Report
There is allegedly an old tale of Hasidic Jews about why one should see good deeds performed by atheists as being more exemplary than good deeds performed by the religious. The lesson of this story is that the atheist does not think he will be rewarded in the afterlife or avoid punishment in the afterlife for his good deeds. The atheist merely performs good deeds because he or she thinks it is the correct thing to do. Or the atheist is doing this not because he or she is commanded to do so:
Master teaches his students that God created everything in the world to be appreciated, since everything is here to teach us a lesson.
One clever student asks “What lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did God create them?”
The Master responds “God created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all — the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs an act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone in need, and cares for the world, he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that God commanded him to perform this act. In fact, he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality. And look at the kindness he can bestow upon others simply because he feels it to be right.”
“This means,” the Master continued “that when someone reaches out to you for help, you should never say ‘I pray that God will help you.’ Instead for the moment, you should become an atheist, imagine that there is no God who can help, and say ‘I will help you.’”
You can probably find this in Martin Buber’s Tales of the Hasidim which has been out of print for 77 years unfortunately but this surfaces on the internet from time to time.
Perhaps all the Republicans speaking at the DNC or writing that they are voting for Harris/Walz to save conservatism , think they are doing it because it is the correct thing to do, regardless of whether they get rewarded or not.Report
Harris knocked it out of the parkReport
Is she the type of candidate that you hope will be somewhat adjacent to power in the next four years?Report
Hell yes. I hope for more than that.Report
Well, if we’re lucky, someone like Harris will be close to the levers of power over the next few years.
As opposed to the last few years.Report
Behold the vast powers of the American vice-president!Report
TFG tried to make the same point last night. Funny that.Report
Well, we know that Biden is a crypto-conservative.
Why do we hope that Harris won’t be one?Report