Lawsplainer: Our Three Most Recent Supreme Court Decisions

Em Carpenter

Em was one of those argumentative children who was sarcastically encouraged to become a lawyer, so she did. She is a proud life-long West Virginian, and, paradoxically, a liberal. In addition to writing about society, politics and culture, she enjoys cooking, podcasts, reading, and pretending to be a runner. She will correct your grammar. You can find her on Twitter.

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  1. Michael Cain
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    Re: Pulsifer v United States… My time on the permanent legislative staff in my state taught me to respect the job the bill drafters have to do. Part of every staffer’s job was to watch for errors and ambiguities that had slipped in. I was on the budget staff, and while we primarily looked at bills that spent money, someone in the group read every single bill. It was one of those things that wasn’t in the job description but still chewed up time. Language that was wrong, or at least problematic, was referred back to the responsible party in Legislative Legal Services, who would make the final call on whether changes were necessary.

    One of the very last bills introduced each session was the Revisor’s Bill. It contained fixes like this bill needed. In the 2019 session, the Revisor’s Bill fixed 73 problems, mostly by making small simple changes to the text.

    Of course, as the staff regularly noted over lunch or drinks, compared to Congress the General Assembly was highly functional.Report

  2. Jaybird
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    Lindke v Freed: Didn’t we make a *HUGE* deal about Trump blocking people on Twitter? Have we forgotten that already?

    Pulsifer v United States: We need a PEMDAS for law. Oh, and lawmakers capable of writing a word problem where PEMDAS is acknowledged and legible.Report

  3. DensityDuck
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    The decisions in Lindke and O’Connor-Ratcliff et al v Garnier mean that all government organizations need to start locking comments and replies to their posts, because it’s now considered a civil-rights violation to delete things.

    Although it does speak to how thoroughly social-media companies have dumped the task of moderation on users. One would think that posting “226 identical replies within a 10-minute span to every tweet on her Twitter feed” is misuse of the system that would be flagged by the administrators, but apparently that’s just something users are supposed to handle themselves.Report

  4. Doctor Jay
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    That sentencing guideline would make much more sense to me if the “and” were an “or” instead. With an “and”, it’s a hot mess. Who can say what was intended, though?Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Doctor Jay
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      Yeah. ~(P ∧ Q ∧ R) versus (~P ∧ ~Q ∧ ~R).

      One of the best ways to get dumb math engagement on the twitter is to ask a poorly formatted math question and you can get the PEMDAS people versus the pre- and post-PEMDAS people screaming at each other.

      “The answer is obviously 1!”
      “The answer is obviously 16!”

      Meanwhile, big 8/2(2+2) stands laughing.Report

    • Em Carpenter in reply to Doctor Jay
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      Would have been easy to say “defendant is ineligible for [safety valve] if any of the following (or all of, depending on intent) apply.”
      Problem solved.Report

  5. DensityDuck
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    I dunno. At first I thought “well obviously it should be OR”, but the more I think about it the more I’m coming around to the dissent side on that one. Because the majority dismisses the “superfluity” argument but it really does apply here.

    So if it’s “OR”, that means the statute can be read as “any one of these three conditions will make you ineligible for the safety-valve”, which renders the first provision superfluous; because it specifically excludes one-point convictions it means there’s no way to get to four relevant-for-the-purpose-of-this-statute points in your criminal history record without having at least one three- or two-point conviction, and the “or” means having at least one three- or two-point conviction makes you ineligible for relief.

    I find the dissent’s argument to be very strong, actually, because of the word “prior” written in the latter two provisions of the statute, implying that they apply regardless of the time since the conviction occurred. Really, the statue was written poorly because it doesn’t address very strongly the fact that criminal history sentencing guidelines involve a time element.

    *****

    It’s a little difficult to opine on this just from the Supreme Court opinions because they don’t provide details of the offenses in question, so we can’t determine whether Pulsifer’s two three-point convictions were “in date” or not (although the fact that there’s a court case implies that at least one was not.)Report

    • KenB in reply to DensityDuck
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      Yeah, the part of the 1st bullet that excludes 1-point offenses doesn’t make any sense under either the AND or the OR interpretations. I think that the AND interpretation is less plausible as an “intended” meaning since it has the bizarre outcome that someone with two 3-pointers on their record would be eligible but someone with a 3 & a 2 would not be… but overall this isn’t a case where it’s obvious what the drafters were aiming for and they just goofed on the wording. I agree that the dissent seems to have the better of it, the more so given that even with eligibility, the actual granting of the relief in a given case is still at the judge’s discretion.Report

    • Em Carpenter in reply to DensityDuck
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      The majority actually adopts the superfluity argument; it’s the dissent that rejects it. Reading the opinion is a mind twister. Every argument seems to cut both ways.Report

      • Michael Cain in reply to Em Carpenter
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        When I was a legislative staffer I kept a short list of statutes that I’d encountered that struck me as “How the hell did this rather confusing mess get strung together?” During the summer interim between sessions I dug through the history of the text from the beginning through various later changes. (One summer I was the legislative librarian’s favorite staffer because I stopped by her facility in the Capitol sub-basement at least once each week with another request.)

        I don’t know if this particular section was (somewhat) poorly drafted initially, or if there was an accumulation of cruft. I’m not curious enough to try to find out, either, since no one’s paying me.Report

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