Presidential Standards and Fitness
Andrew Donaldson’s musings upon the shortcomings of modern American Presidents reminded me of a mental process of disappointment and acceptance I went through myself some time ago. For me, it had to do with the U.S. Supreme Court; for Andrew, the final step of grudging acceptance of the dreary reality is not yet complete. I should hope for his sake that it never is.
For me, studying Constitutional law and the role of the courts in transforming our society and culture was an optimistic course of study that began midway through my undergraduate years and carried through law school. What seemed to me to be a great and good shift in American history had occurred: the courts as an institution were turned into active, powerful, and forceful implementers of justice. Judges stood sentinel over our individual rights and demanded that America, as a polity and as a culture, start living up to the high ideals articulated in our founding documents and laws. Yes, the Supreme Court is a political football, but especially when I was a newly-minted lawyer I could look at the appointment of no less legendary a lawyer than Ruth Bader Ginsburg as a sign that the High Court was going to have people on it, heroic people like Thurgood Marshall, people who would make sure that law lives up to its promise. And whether I agreed with him or not, there was still another swashbuckler on SCOTUS named Antonin Scalia, whose abilities as a writer and a thinker have, possibly permanently, changed what the Court does and how it does it; here too was a larger-than-life leader, someone with a vision.1 And they would clash, collegially but forcefully, and in this clash, competing visions of the law’s potential for justice would be on display for all to see!
Alas. that youthful idealism is mostly gone from me now. In fact, the Court has for most of its history lacked heroic figures on its bench, lacked Justices with steady, noble moral visions, lacked people able to rise above their own interests and political origins to steer the law towards a greater good. I admire the Court during the time of Earl Warren’s influence, but the Court was behaving exceptionally, not at baseline, during those years. Even Chief Justice Warren is subject to criticism; he certainly was political, although that criticism usually comes from people who think he was too political in the wrong direction, people calling themselves “conservatives.”
The dreary reality is that while it’s surely the case that most judges want to do the right thing to the extent they can most of the time, justice always takes a back seat to law, and law has ever been made the handmaiden of the powerful. And even Justice Scalia’s evangelism for a new paradigm has at least become, if not actually was all along, an appliqué upon the very elevation of political policy preferences that it purported to combat. In short, the Court is today reverting to its historical norm.
As for Presidents, we have a lot more Tylers, Pierces, Harrisons, Coolidges, and Fords in our history than either Washingtons and Lincolns on the one hand, or Nixons and Buchanans on the other. I read Andrew’s essay as his realization that petty to mid-level corruption, mendacity, and mediocrity in the Oval Office has been the historical norm, not the exception.
Here’s a thought experiment to validate that claim: rank the Presidents. All of them. You’ve got forty-five names (Grover Cleveland only gets one tile in this game because, come on, he’s Grover Cleveland). You’ll probably approach the task the way I would: first break them up into tiers, and then sort within the tiers. In the top tier are almost certainly Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln, probably FDR and maybe TR and maybe one or two more. In the bottom tier would be people like Nixon and Buchanan and maybe these days Wilson and for me at least, Trump. (YMMV.) How one would tier and rank more recent Presidents likely reveals more about one’s current political identification than a more sober historical judgment — I don’t pretend immunity from this phenomenon, and you probably shouldn’t, either.
But in between your easy top five or so, and your easy bottom five or so, are about thirty-five other names. You can break them down into B-C-D tiers or just leave them all lumped into a single middle category. The game forces you to decide whether Benjamin Harrison was better or worse than Zachary Taylor, but chances are pretty good that both of them are going to be somewhere in the soupy middle. One of them was a lot more corrupt but more politically competent than the other, if you care about those sorts of things and have some principled way of comparing them. As you scan the center of the list of the Presidents you’ve just ranked, contemplate how many men in that mediocre middle you’d have rolled your eyes at had you been asked to vote for them, how few of them you’d have been genuinely excited about.
Andrew, I feel your disappointment at this realization. I feel the hollowness it leaves. A President like Joe Biden, who may be well-intentioned but is also all too human, is what we get — it’s what we almost always have got. Of course we want demigods like George Washington. Or at least, people who seem like the demigod we imagine Washington to have been, through the soft-focused lens of the passage of a sufficient amount of time and accumulation of a sufficient volume of hagiography.2 The fact is, President Joe Biden is business as usual, which was certainly something we needed after his predecessor but also something that feels like a missed opportunity.
That disappointing reality doesn’t mean we shouldn’t demand better, of course. But we shouldn’t be surprised that people in public service are generally of their times, not ahead of them. (This applies to the Founding Generation of Presidents too.) We ought not wonder at why the kinds of people we admire look elsewhere than public office. The Presidency comes with some good perqs like the use of Air Force One and some pretty nice long weekend digs at Camp David, but some rather less desirable parts of even seeking the job, much less doing it, include intense and lensed public scrutiny and criticism for everything that goes wrong whether you were responsible for it or not, a lack of universally appealing options to implement, hard and sometimes bloody decisions, necessary compromises with people of distastefully different opinions, and endless begging for campaign money. Especially when for a lot of people we might consider, taking the job may well involve taking a pay cut.
Is it really the case that anything less than George Washington stepping away from the Presidency is an intolerably sharp moral step down? if so, our standards for moral virtue in the Presidency are simply unrealistically high; we doom ourselves to perpetual disappointment. Part of reaching civic maturity is achieving the understanding that human beings hold political office, not angels. If we were angels, we would have no need of government; if we were governed by angels, we would not need to put controls on the way they governed us. I seem to remember reading that somewhere once upon a time.
May I suggest another thought exercise in response to Andrew’s piece then? Imagine what an ideal President for the early twenty-first century would be like. Use that vision the way an author would, and come up with your own Jeb Bartlett or James Marshall. Take a few moments with a piece of scrap paper, or your phone’s note-taking app, or whatever you have. Write down five words describing this President. Adjectives, or if not single-word adjectives, then very short descriptive phrases. Here’s mine, yours may and probably will vary.
- Good judge of other people
- Smart (defined as “assimilates new information quickly and effectively”)
- Inspirational
- Practical
- Compassionate, empathetic
I limited the list to five qualities, so “Integrity” maybe ought to be on the list, but no, I said five. Five, damnit! The point of limits on lists is to prioritize.
Now from there, take a look at who’s actually out there. We don’t really have a Thomas J. Whitmore to vote for, and we wouldn’t really want to be put into such dire straits as to need his Independence Day speech. But we do have to pick from real people, and generally speaking, people who are working their way up through the ranks of government now. People like Governors and Senators.
I’m not so sure that there aren’t plausible choices out there working their way up through the ranks of our government who possess at least several of these qualities. For the Democrats, I see some of them in people like Gretchen Whitmer, Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg, Andy Beshear, and Raphael Warnock. I see a lot of these traits in some Republicans, too — Nikki Haley comes most immediately to mind, although I’m also starting to hear some good things about the junior Senator from Alabama, Katie Britt. If you’re a Republican you probably have a better sense of who’s on your farm team than I do.
Now, I’m not saying that all these people have all of the traits I mentioned. Empathy seems to be in particularly short supply these days, but then again I may be spending too much time on social media, which is a great sap on anyone’s empathy. And I’m not saying that I would vote for all of these people. But I am saying that these are people who seem like plausible choices, people who while flawed, don’t seem like they would be as awful as Trump (who, in my opinion, possesses zero of the leadership qualities on my list of things I’d look for in a President).
The system has given us Biden versus Trump again in 2024. That’s done, so far as I can tell. We got Biden because he’s the incumbent. Well, of course we got Biden. We got Trump because Trump has… I don’t know, imposed some sort of weird thrall over his party. I know some of the more conservative voices in the commentariat here are very unhappy about that, and they aren’t alone. So that’s a problem Republicans have to solve also, in addition to searching for real people who can exhibit the kinds of leadership traits we need in a President.
But I don’t think it’s time to despair. I think improvements happen gradually and over time. And they happen intentionally. So if you want to grumble about the lack of fitness and standards for the Presidency, I think you should start by articulating what those standards are, and even then temper those standards by an understanding that just about all of our Presidents in the past have fallen short of them, and as a nation that moves through history we’ve actually done just fine notwithstanding.
- Here, I cite to Justice Elena Kagan’s now-famous 2015 observation that “…we are all textualists now,” although the demon of insistence upon completeness compels me to note that she walked that quip back two years ago while holding her conservative Brethren to task in West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency, 597 U.S. ___ (2022) (Kagan, J. dissenting, see part III).
- Alas, George Washington himself was no demigod but rather a human being with his own moral failures and personal shortcomings. While he had the goods to deliver in terms of military prowess, he also had a very healthy ego about it; he was a slaveholder; there’s substantial circumstantial evidence that he cheated on Martha with a woman named Sally Fairfax.
My list is: moral, experienced, conservative, intelligent, capable. The last two presidents average 1.5 / 5. The previous five averaged 3.4 / 5.
ETA: I just ran your list through my calculator, and got the past two presidents at 1 / 4 and the prior five averaging 3.2 / 4. I didn’t know how to assess them as judges of character, so I dropped that one.Report
To be fair, I’m including in my thought about being a “good judge of other people” an assessment of their character, but also their abilities and motivations. To me, this is the core skill of an executive, perhaps even more important than what GWHB called “the vision thing.” That’s because even if a leader lacks a direction towards which to motivate her people, at least she can be a good caretaker of the entity she’s leading until a vision comes along from elsewhere. But she always is going to need to work through other people, so she’s always going to need to know what they’re made of.Report
It’s a reasonable criterion, I agree. I just don’t know how to quantify it.Report
My list is someone who will:
Preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.Report
At the top, Washington and Lincoln.
At the bottom, Buchanan and Trump.
All four of them for preserving (or not) the institution.
Buchanan setting the stage for the civil war should have earned him the worst spot forever; However Trump’s insurrection, refusing to hand over power, and running on dismantling democracy give Buchanan a run for the spot.
FDR (imho) gets far more credit than he deserves and less blame. He handled WW2 correctly but good grief he also extended the depression for years by going to war with “the rich”.
Andrew Johnson (guy after Lincoln) deserves to be in the bottom 5 but not the bottom 2 (more a reflection of them than him).
Nixon’s negatives are brutal but he did some good things (China) so I’m not sure if he’s the same or not.
Reagan deserves to be in the top quarter, maybe the top 5 (but not top 2) but his top 5 spot is somewhat hampered by his dementia at the end.
Harrison is hard. Guy died 31 days into his term and was sick before that. A combo of exhaustion, not getting out of wet clothing, bad medical treatment did him in. Basically he should be listed as “nothing” with anyone below him being outright negative.
I’d put Biden above the median. Good but not great. What really makes him shine is how he’s the first one in a while that actually does the job.Report
After a little more thought.
Johnson should be 3rd worst. Nixon I’ll call 4th.
Reagan in the top 5 (going to give him credit for winning the cold war).
Basically you get to be in the top tier by winning a war and/or preserving the country… which means you get to be in the bottom by the reverse.
All four of the bottom four were either thrown out of office for cause or should/could have been.Report
Good list of attributes. A good list shouldn’t’ have a political spin but be about personal qualities.
There is a part of me that struggles with adjectives like “inspirational” since that’s not what i care about much. I rarely if ever watch pol speeches and i want a competent manager as prez. However i’m a werido on that since most people want an inspirational leader. Granted i admire and see the need for inspirational leaders at the worst times. So FDR is way up there. Churchill, despite not being prez and having plenty of controversy, was a great inspirational leader. So i would have something like inspirational on any list.
Humility is something a good prez should have. Sadly there are many many factors in modern society that push against that. Just the ego required to run for prez for one. People seem to eat up bragging and taking credit. But someone who is personally aware of their own limits as a person and ours as a country would be good. I think Biden has this pretty well. Trump…..lol. Nor sure how many prez’s have had that. Ike prob did but his life experience would lead that way.Report
We can all come up with our own lists of what makes a good leader. While everyone’s list will of course be somewhat different than anyone else’s, I suspect that if one undertakes the exercise with sobriety and good faith, whatever winds up on that person’s list will be traits that Donald Trump mostly lacks. The man is nearly the opposite of a good leader.Report
I’m reminded of when P.J. O’Rourke explain his support for Clinton in 2016: “She’s bad, but bad within normal parameters” Biden isn’t bad, but he’s mediocre within normal parameters. I’ll take that.Report
I’m reminded of an observation I made shortly into his term, that Trump was managing to fail in ways we had literally never bothered to include in presidental qualifications, like not being able to neutrally wish the entire population of the US a happy New Year, or talking appropriately in front of Boy Scouts.
Do you all even remember that micro-scandal, where Trump couldn’t even competently and neutrally address the _Boy Scout Jamboree_ without wandering into politics and attacking Obamacare and telling them the economy was doing great and had some weird sexual innuendo about William Levitt and his sexy sexy yacht parties?
On top of Donald Trump failing in the way we expect corrupt evil presidents to fail, he managed to fail in ‘Act like a normal person and behave appropriately for the situation.’, a consideration we’ve literally never had to think about for a president before.
Georgia W Bush could do it, and he sometimes had problems just making words! But no one was wondering ‘Is he going to brag about sexy yacht parties while addressing these children?’
Even _Richard Nixon_, a man who always seemed to be uncomfortable with other people, and as the tapes have shown, was often fairly bigoted, could just…fake a smile and say ‘Happy New Year’.Report
Is there a book somewhere that compiles the profound weirdnesses, scandals, random chaos, and all-around self-parody that was the Trump Administration? If I wrote it, I’d call it “208 Infrastructure Weeks” but man I don’t have the patience for something like that.Report
One of the fundamental skills a politician should have in a media age is “hit your mark, deliver your lines”.
I have read stories about The Apprentice that flat out say Trump couldn’t do it. He would, for example, fire the wrong person and leave the set. Then the director and writers were left to find enough footage they could splice together to make that fit some sort of story.
Even in Reagan’s second term, as dementia set in, his years as a professional actor left him with the ability to learn the lines, hit the mark, and deliver them on the first take.
I had a great deal more respect for actors generally after a tech job required me to make a bunch of video clips. Hit the mark, deliver your lines, sound like you’re as enthusiastic about it on the fifth take as the first.Report
It may not always have been the mark the writers intended, but yes, professional actors do this.Report
Dude, at least wait a year.Report
A friend who’s a theater director was absolutely in stitches after seeing that insurance-firm commercial with the actor who keeps blowing his takes; she said “oh god I’ve worked with SO MANY guys like that! But they keep getting work because there are so few guys in the business who look good and are straight!”Report
Keanu Reeves has entered the chat.Report
One of the things I always thought was really weird was how Trump didn’t manage to make any money off of COVID. Like, people talk about him being this business negotiator genius, but, like, he didn’t even think to pick a mask factory and tell them “your product is officially certified by the FDA as of now, oh also Barron’s on your board of directors as of now”.Report
“Why can’t we get any good Presidential candidates?”
Well, there were five other Republican Presidential candidates in 2016. For the most part, nobody wanted to talk about them. Everyone was really excited about trying to get Donald Trump to admit that when he said “blood coming out of her wherever” he really did mean her naughty bits. Everyone was really excited about how he said Ted Cruz had a small wiener. Everyone was really excited about all the crazy stuff he said. Donald Trump flapping his arms and smirking was more important to the news than Ted Cruz suggesting he’d suspend the H-1B program.
And, y’know. Any time someone suggested we should talk about the other candidates the answer was a quick dismissal, usually with a quip. Ted Cruz? Oh, the guy whose dad was the Zodiac Killer, LOL. Marco Rubio? The Uncle Tom, LOL. Scott Walker? The guy who wanted to fire all the teachers, LOL. So, y’know, not exactly a lot of interest in discussing whether anyone other than Trump might be worthy; obviously you don’t care, so why should we put forth a lesser evil?Report
A take that I see bubble up a lot is the whole issue of how Romney was treated no better than Trump (“back in chains”, etc).
If the Republicans that will deserve Strange New Respect and the ones that are an obvious threat to Our Democracy are indistinguishable… well, why the hell not be hung for a sheep as a lamb?
Hell, for the 20 minutes that DeSantis was polling better than Trump, we started seeing “worse than Trump” takes instead of “thank goodness, a person with executive experience who is within the acceptable margins of being bad!”
We had to jump immediately to “Worse than Trump!”
Would DeSantis have been worse than Trump? Hell if I know. Will the 2028 candidate be “Worse than Trump”? Yeah, probably.Report
I keep pointing out that the foundation of Trumpism is the grievance of white males who are not getting the respect to which they believe they are entitled.Report
Eh, the various growth in Trump’s numbers among non-white demographics hint that there may be other dynamics.
Do you have any explanations that don’t happen to flood your own brain with endorphins?Report
I’m just repeating back to you your own words.
That Trumpists feel aggrieved disrespected, not given the respect they are entitled to. Whether he picks up some nonwhite support doesn’t change that fact. I mean, you are the one telling us this so I don’t know why you would take issue with it.Report
Ah, I see. You’re using the term broadly enough that it could apply to anything.
“Why do Black people consistently vote for democrats?”
“They don’t feel the respect that they think they are entitled to.”
When you phrase it that way, yes. I agree.
You know why Trump is picking up other demographics? Those other demographics don’t feel the respect that they think they are entitled to.
Is that why you’re going to vote for Biden?Report
No it doesn’t apply broadly.
Most demographics vote for a candidate based on what they think will benefit them, or their nation.
Romney voters, Obama voters, McCain voters, Bush voters can all be described this way.
Trump is unique in that his appeal is rooted solidly in what you describe, a sense of grievance and disrespect.Report
This is the “I am Firm; You are Obstinate; He is a Pig-headed Fool” game.
The Trump voters aren’t voting for what they think will benefit them or their nation?
Nope! They’re just being selfish.
Now the guys on *MY* team? We’re voting for what will benefit us and our nation.Report
They are very much voting for what they think will benefit them. They believe that voting for Trump will cause the rest of us to give them the respect they think they deserve. They think voting for Trump will give them back economic, social and political power they believe they have lost. They believe that voting for Trump will make America “Strong” in the way that being a bully makes a school yard kid “strong.”
They don’t care about the rest of the nation.Report
Chip, old squirt, this isn’t about respect, this is about me not taking Democrats seriously when they say they would engage seriously with a Republican candidate who was an intelligent person who genuinely wanted to solve problems instead of just being a racist retard.Report
Jeb Bush would have made a good president. I worked under him when he was governor of Florida. He had good name recognition, GOP lineage, etc. I believe I said so at the time.
And yet here we are.Report
Better than Clinton?Report
No, but way better then Trump.Report
Yeah, I prefer when my political opponents run candidates who lose with dignity too.Report
most liberals – including in the Senate and a Democratically controlled House could and would have worked with him across the aisle. Makes him a better choice, though he would not have been my favorite.Report
If the Republicans that will deserve Strange New Respect and the ones that are an obvious threat to Our Democracy are indistinguishable… well, why the hell not be hung for a sheep as a lamb?
Or as another person put is, “I am your retribution.”Report
Why should I compromise when I am in the right?
You should compromise.Report
The Trumpists want retribution for lack of respect, not compromise.
Seriously, you should listen to them. Or just read your own writing.Report
Yeah, I’m not sure how much credence to give your interpretation.
We could well be in “every accusation is a confession” territory.
Have you recently cooked with/for a Trumpist? Like eaten in their house or had them over to eat at yours?Report
Yes.
And?Report
I wasn’t asking you, Phil.
Though would you say that your Trumpist friend is a particularly resentful grievance-monger?
Do you find Chip’s description of Trumpists to accurately fit your friend?Report
I find his descriptions to fit nearly all my friends locally, most of my neighbors and most of the political establishment around me. To the point that I have to drink my beer in silence at kids birthday parties.
How often do you eat with Trumpists?Report
I eat with Trumpists at least once a week and sometimes up to four or five.
My experience of them is that they’re somewhat jovial, involved in their community, tight with their family, and fun to do stuff with… such as eat with them (and cook for/with them) regularly. If, for whatever reason, I have to miss an evening here or there, I miss them and look forward to the next get-together.
Saturday seems to be the next one. (Monday was the last one.)
And I have never once felt like I should drink my beer in silence when I hung with them.
Are they friends of yours or just, you know, acquaintances that you see when your kids and their kids happen to go to the same place?Report
Both.
As but one example: At the moment they are siding with our governor – who does not want to expand Medicare for any reason under the ACA – over our state legislators (including people they elected) who are finally doing so via legislation because it makes good business sense. Why? Because they won’t get any (or so they think); no one else should, and even if a few people should, most people who would don’t deserve to.
Grievances Jay.Report
Medicare expansion or Medicaid expansion?Report
Medicaid. Medicare is a purely federal program. Not that I blame Philip. When I worked on the Colorado legislature budget staff, doing presentations before the joint budget committee, I almost always hesitated to make sure I said Medicaid.Report
Oh, I wasn’t blaming him either.
I was just thinking “I can think of a handful of reasons to oppose Medicaid Expansion but it’d take a lot more work to oppose Medicare Expansion” and just wanted to clarify.Report
Honestly this schtick of “:You don’t understaaaand us!” is juvenile, but in keeping with the overall juvenile character of Trumpists.
The dominant themes we keep hearing from them is self-pity, grievance, a sense of persecution and unwarranted grandiosity.
This is why I picked up on your comment, of how they “might as well” vote from Trump since they were going to be accused of being reactionary anyway.
This is in line with the adolescent who angrily says that since Mom won’t let him have a beer he “might as well” shoot heroin. It will be all their fault, you see.
Self pity, refusal to take responsibility for their own actions, victimhood- its all being displayed by the man himself, who they all see as a soulmate.Report
While I appreciate that you have no reason to believe that you have misunderstood anything about the people you oppose, the sheer number of people who have come before you who have done so should give you pause.
Have you recently cooked with/for a Trumpist? Like eaten in their house or had them over to eat at yours?Report
I have had many intimate interactions with Trumpists, and they all sound like this:
The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!Report
I did nothing wrong, except build a successful and very liquid company, owning some of the Greatest Properties in the World, and defeat Hillary Rodham Clinton and the Democrats in the 2016 Presidential Election, an Election which a Republican was not expected to win. I am now the Presumptive Republican Nominee, and likewise, dominating Joe Biden, the Democrat Nominee, in the Polls. This is a Weaponized Attack on Joe Biden’s Political Opponent, unlike anything that has happened in the History of the United States. This is a Political Witch Hunt, and will lead to the destruction of New York State, with businesses and people fleeing by the thousands, while criminals continue to roam the streets. We will continue to appeal until Justice prevails!
Wow, this is so inscrutable. Truly, a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma!Report
The Persecution of Donald Trump Means Turning Ordinary Activities Into Crimes
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/02/the_persecution_of_donald_trump_means_turning_ordinary_activities_into_crimes.html
“Persecution”; There’s that word again.Report
While I appreciate you answering a question that I did not ask, could you answer the questions that I did?
Here, I’ll ask them again:
Have you recently cooked with/for a Trumpist? Like eaten in their house or had them over to eat at yours?Report
What is it like not to have self-awareness or shame?Report
I wouldn’t know.
I find myself painfully self-aware most of the time. As for shame? Eh. I have a sense of it. I just think that different things are shameful than many of my interlocutors seem to.
I mean, seriously. They brag about stuff that it would take waterboarding to get out of me.Report
As you will recall, Trump won by pluralities in 206, not majorities in any of the states where he competed in primaries. The GOP could have squashed his candidacy early on by going from 6 to 2, and out spending him. They chose not to because they considered him useful in accomplishing their political objectives.Report
The GOP could have squashed his candidacy early on by going from 6 to 2, and out spending him.
“Okay. It’s come to this. I’ll be the guy who takes him on.”
“The hell you will, *I* will be the guy who takes him on!”
“You’re both crazy. *I* will be the guy who takes him on and I will have Carly Fiorina as my VP!!!”
“YOU’RE ALL DELUDED! *I* WILL BE THE GUY WHO TAKES HIM ON!”Report
Over on the Haley article, the author said that it’s rare to find a politician who will sacrifice his career for his beliefs. Well, we should note that Scott Walker did. And he said “I’m not the one who takes him on.”Report
The converse, however, is true all too often.Report
which is why we should acknowledge it when it happensReport
I’m old enough to remember people saying the same things about arch-segregationists and supporters of Jim Crow. And you know what? It was true. If anything, it was truer then, because they were more secure in their positions than their counterparts are now and less consumed by resentment.Report