Trump Civil Business Fraud Judgment

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  1. Philip H
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    Fascinating that he’s barred from seeking loans, but his organization is intact and not barred from doing business in New York. Aside from the appeal, one wonders how soon he will file for bankruptcy . . .Report

    • Dark Matter in reply to Philip H
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      After the election I would think.
      Another likely option is to flee to Florida.

      The real question is how much of his assets he needs to fork over to pay the judgement. Forbes thought he was worth $2.6B in 2023, so in theory this isn’t fatal to his empire.Report

  2. Michael Cain
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    Given the structure of the Trump Organization — more than 500 interlocking LLCs — how are the “running the business” terms going to apply? Is being the managing member of an LLC an executive? What about single-member LLCs? What about LLCs whose rules require a Trump to be the managing member? What about LLCs that own a property, where the money was put up by other people and Trump put up his brand?Report

  3. North
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    Trump having to scrape together the superseas bond while he appeals may be pretty interesting. I don’t think he can just hand wave at the bonding companies and say “my business structure is complicated” and expect them to just pony up the cash.Report

    • Saul Degraw in reply to North
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      There is already a monitor in the civil fraud case and nope. New York law also makes him pony up before he can appeal.Report

    • Michael Cain in reply to North
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      I’m thinking the Saudis go to a bonding company and guarantee the $355M. IANAL, but my understanding is this happens regularly on a smaller scale.

      I admit that my only experience with bails/bonds was long ago in graduate school. My gay roommate was caught in a Friday night sweep the Travis County sheriff ran on a gay nightclub. He called me about 2:00 am and told me briefly the situation, and that the choices were post bail or he spent the weekend in (crowded) county lockup. Bail was $300. My bank had a 24/7 walk-up teller*. I got $300 out of my emergency fund** and bailed him out. On Monday morning the county judge waived all the charges and the clerk gave me my money back.

      * Access was from the sidewalk along one side of the bank. I asked the guy about whether people tried to rob him. He said the bulletproof laminate between us was 1.5″ thick, and he just stuck his tongue out at them.

      ** Asked about it once, I replied that at that time (1977) $500 was enough for me to disappear for at least a couple of weeks should that ever be necessary.Report

  4. Chip Daniels
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    It will be interesting to see the emerging talking points from MAGA land.

    I’m thinking some combination of “liberal judge” and “Biden Deep State conspiracy”.

    Anything other than “Yeah, he’s a crook”.Report

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