On Movie Soundtracks that Don’t Suck
A few months back, a couple of things happened over the course of a week.
The first was a post about September’s month in theaters that had a comment thread talking about movie soundtracks and, specifically, the movie soundtrack to The Lost Boys.
That soundtrack was in everybody’s car and everybody’s Walkman. And I went back and revisited the soundtrack and realized that the soundtrack kinda sucks. As I said then:
We had no idea what we were doing with non-orchestral soundtracks.
I mean, seriously… look at this:
INXS
Lou Gramm
ELTON FREAKING JOHN as covered by ROGER FREAKING DALTREY
THE FREAKING DOORS as covered by… okay, fine. Echo and the Bunnymen. Half a point for this one.
The Cry Little Sister song. Full point. This one is good.
Power Play? This is a lounge song. What the hell?
Timmy Capello. The sexy sax man. I don’t even know how to judge this one. It’s either a full point or it’s a minus point. I don’t know.
Mummy Calls. Beauty has her way? I have no memory of this song. It’s not bad? The lyrics are good. The song itself kinda sucks. But, yeah, I could see how someone who doesn’t believe in subtext might think this song belonged on the soundtrack over the objections of the guy who said “Let’s have Roger Daltrey cover the Elton John song about sunsets!” Half a point.
To the Shock of Miss Louise… I don’t remember this song either. No lyrics, I guess. I must have fast forwarded it every time. It actually fits, though. Maybe a quarter point.See? No idea what they were doing.
The Cry Little Sister song was good.
Then, about a week later, there were memes flying about incorporating one of Jordan Peterson’s tweets and I figured that I’d throw my hat into the ring:
OH EM GEE!!! pic.twitter.com/WD3moca2VW
— Jaybird (@OG_Jaybird) October 26, 2023
And I went back and looked at the Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey soundtrack and, holy cow, it’s *REALLY* good. And it still holds up!
Now, I’ll grant, it has a *HUGE* emphasis on “what it is” rather than “what it is not” and so you’re going to be getting hair bands, hair bands, and more hair bands. It is true that Slaughter and Winger both appear on there. But so do Faith No More, King’s X, and Megadeth. And, you know what? If you don’t have a bunch of people yelling “MEGADETH IS BETTER THAN WINGER” in your ear, Slaughter and Winger can be kinda fun. Even if Megadeth is better than Winger.
And I’d go through the soundtrack and hold it up to the theme of the movie but… every single song would get a “this song is pretty good and it fits the movie” or a “this song is really good and it fits the movie” with a special shout-out to Primus and Tommy the Cat.
Marchmaine mentioned the soundtrack to “Pretty in Pink” as giving moviemakers a false idea of how easy it would be to just throw together some already-recorded songs and call it a soundtrack (which, as soundtracks go, was pretty darn good if you ask me… most folks wouldn’t have heard of half of these bands and the music guy did a good job of picking songs from the top third of the bands’ discographies).
And so, since then, I’ve been thinking about movie soundtracks every other day for 3 months.
The best Orchestral ones are pretty easy. Just pick something that John Williams is attached to and you’ll have about a kabillion of them. Holy cow, he did Poseidon Adventure? *AND* Towering Inferno? I mean, I knew about the heaviest hitters (Star Wars, Superman, E.T, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws, Jurassic Park, Schindler’s List) but he did Home Alone? HE DID HARRY POTTER?!?
Dang, you almost have to say “pick an orchestral one but NOT JOHN WILLIAMS” at that point.
Hellraiser’s was pretty good. The Social Network if you want something more modern.
So… what soundtracks have been stuck in your craw?
I’ve always liked Tangerine Dream soundtracks. Their track for Thief, a great movie, is pretty well known. Also for Risky Business with that young whipper snapper Tom Cruise. TD isn’t in style anymore but it holds up well.
Bring on the wall of synths.Report
I had the soundtrack to Vision Quest on cassette. Dang, that was a good soundtrack. I had forgotten how many flicks TD had done.Report
Halloween Kills and Escape Plan 2 are both amazing. I’ve still never seen the latter, but the soundtrack popped up on Spotify and I could not believe how much I liked it.Report
Holy crap. I saw Escape Plan. It was… well, it wasn’t *AWFUL*. Coulda used a sense of humor, though. I had no idea they made a sequel.Report
anything that makes money will get a sequel.
“Jarhead” has an entire series.Report
Editor’s note: I have changed the sentence “Yes, Slaughter and Winger appear on there” to “It is true that Slaughter and Winger both appear on there.”Report
Used to rock the Last Action Hero soundtrack all the time in my Panasonic boom box, back in the day.Report
I admit to knowing nothing about this movie other than “I didn’t see it after it got panned”.
Huh. Anthrax. Fishbone? Buckethead?!? WHAT THE HECKReport
The movie sucked but if Arnold Schwarzenegger is in it I was (frankly still am) seeing it. But yea soundtrack was legit.Report
It also has a Queensryche track, “Real World”, that didn’t appear on a Queensryche album until ten years after the movie came out, and I fully expect that a good percentage of that soundtrack album sales were specifically because of that song.Report
The most influential soundtrack in Hollywood for the last 30 years is, by far, Peter Gabriel’s ‘Passion of the Christ’. Prior to, you could still hear the lingering influence of Wagner in most orchestral soundtracks.
After PotC, every editor in town had the tracks. They fit everywhere. The vibes and beats slid into the background, but then could burst forth in drama. Everyone’s temp tracks were full of Gabriel. Producers LOVED the tracks. Probably every single film/tv composer from 1990 till now has been tasked at least once with copying a track from that movie close enough to satisfy the producers, but not so close as to get sued. I heard echos of ‘Zaar’ in a cooking show just the other night.Report
Similarly, the main theme to “Stargate” was a perennial favorite in movie trailers for years afterward.Report
OH I FORGOT ABOUT LAST TEMPTATION.
Yeah, that sountrack lived in my walkman too. I was a Peter Gabriel partisan in high school and when I heard that he did a movie soundtrack to an Officially Blasphemous Movie, I had high expectations mixed with a lot of weird guilt.
And the soundtrack still managed to exceed expectations.Report
[Cliff Clavin voice] Actually, when it comes to orchestral scores in the 80s – 90s – 00s – 10s Danny Elfman probably wrote the score running through your head.
MiB, Mission Impossible, Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, Batman Returns, etc. etc.
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls027374723/
Or, as I like to say, the soundtrack of the Milennial generation was written by the guy from Oingo Boingo.Report
and “Army of Darkness”!Report
As for soundtracks with Pop songs I’m of two minds.
1. Very few soundtracks make for a good Album
but
2. I’m often impressed by creative directors who pull ‘just the right song’ for a scene or a moment.
Guardians of the Galaxy comes to mind as a collection of songs I really never liked… but somehow I now like (many of them) them in association with the movie.Report
A good soundtrack turns a movie from A Film into An Opera.
Like GotG as you mention, or “The Transformers (1986)”.Report
Good point… there are definitely movies that are more Music Video with an arc than Movie with a soundtrack.
I mean, who’s going to overlook the Pitch Perfect cinematic universe?Report
O Brother, Where Art Thou? is probably the best not-merely-a-good-mixtape soundtrack. But I don’t know how much of that is due to the genre being somewhat alien (compared to, say, let’s-agree-that-this-is-“alternative”-rock).Report
Sure, call it an ironic coming of age soundtrack in the era of Mumford & Sons?
But that’s another thought here, the John Hughes movies were snapshots of HS and early adulthood and the soundtracks reflected that. Sixteen candles has a similar Alt soundtrack, but it’s just not as good as Pretty in Pink. Thompson Twins, Spandau Ballet, Paul Young, Madness, and hey… Danny Elfman, er, Oingo Boingo.
How many coming of age movies are coming out right now with Taylor Swift and her genre as musical narrators? Or maybe Swift is too generic… who’s the Alt Swift?
And… can these movies afford the rights to, say, Mr. Brightside — which I’ll note is conspicuously absent from Peter Quill’s zune songlist.Report
I think that the “Anyone But You” movie was a somewhat earnest attempt at the whole Romance thing… okay, looks like those were all original songs for the movie as far as I can tell. Not bad. Intended to be music that you hear in the background of people bantering, not overpowering the scene.
Maybe that’s one of the big differences. When GOTG3’s trailer came out and “Since You Been Gone” started playing, I was excited and delighted by the GOTG3-themed music video for a song I already really liked.
Maybe that’s the problem. Movie songs have to be under. “Real” songs were written to be over.
And it’s tough to mix two overs.Report
Yeah, that song definitely has a ‘vibey’ feeling that would open the scene at the new (non-starbucks) cafe, then fade into the background.
And, the opening scene of GoTG 2 with Baby Groot Dancing to Mr. Blue Sky is among the best opening credit scenes ever. But there, Mr. Blue Sky is the lead and the charcters are in support. Mr. Blue Sky being a song I HATED in the 70s but now like it as the Baby Groot song.Report
Perhaps it was just an outer-borough New York thing, but you’d be hard pressed to find a record collection in the late 70s that did not include the Saturday Night Fever album. When I think of soundtracks that capture the zeitgeist of their time, I think of that one and The Graduate. And maybe Singles, to a lesser extent.
Not nearly as ubiquitous, but the Garden State soundtrack was probably one of the last to be a huge seller (before mp3s blew up the album).
Currently, I’ve created Wes Anderson and Quentin Tarantino playlists on Spotify. Like Scorsese, two directors that really get it when it comes to selecting songs that elevate a film.Report
Yeah, before my time, but Saturday Night Fever movie and soundtrack are almost one in the same.
If only to remind us that a song called, ‘Night on Disco Mountain’ exists.Report
Wait, you guys haven’t had the “Singles versus Reality Bites” argument yet?Report
I didn’t get that the movie wanted for us to root for Troy Dyer.
I still don’t.
I didn’t get that the movie wanted for us to root for Cliff Poncier.
I still don’t.Report
Apparently, only members of Gen X believe our Winona ended up with the right guy because being a “sell out” was the worst thing anyone could be in the early 1990s.
This was a whole chapter in Chuck Klosterman’s book “The Nineties”. Fun read.Report
As far as the soundtracks go, there is no argument.
The biggest track on RB was “Stay” and for that reason alone should be launched into the sun.Report
There are opinions that cannot be tolerated in a free society.Report
Some of my favorite soundtrack albums:
2001
Triplets of Belleville
Clockwork Orange
A Hard Day’s Night
The Electrical Life of Louis Wain
The BatmanReport
Ah! I forgot to mention “The Book Of Clarence” soundtrack. I haven’t seen the film yet, but I love the music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB8-ZcNsxpU&list=PLYZc77tip7LK-gL1DZvT9Pj5O7oVRz-rc&index=11Report
It’s funny you mention this because I’m going to see a press screening of “Drive Away Dolls” with my girlfriend on Monday and my main interest is writing about the soundtrack, which (if IMDB is to be trusted) is *really* good. It sort of brought me back to that time in the 90s where you’d buy a soundtrack to discover songs that you’d never heard of and be knocked out by them. Like a great DJ. It’s sort of a Tarantino soundtrack but mostly female singers and some *really* obscure stuff.
I definitely think great soundtracks are still a thing in streaming series- all my recent examples of epic “needle drops” come from series. But this is a movie (that looks like a 90s crime caper anyway), where the soundtrack is killer. I mean, it’s one thing to revive Kate Bush for a series; it’s a whole other to feature a Joyce Harris song that was so jaw dropping it wasn’t released till 40 years after it was recorded- and then only on one CD compilation in the UK. (It’s also a song I used to slip into DJ sets all the time just to see the look on people’s faces.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xiBkDzNyrM
Two questions have been bugging me:
1. Is it a “soundtrack” if it features a bunch of old recorded songs, and an “original soundtrack” if it’s an original “score”? Or is that just a score? And don’t most movies have both?
2. What is the name of the music geek who picks out the old songs from their record collection to drop in the movie? There’s some insider name for that job that I heard one time in NYC from someone who worked on movies and I cannot remember it. Not “music supervisor”- it’s a nickname.
Anyway, I hope the movie is good so I can finally get that Joyce Harris song on vinyl.
P.S. Incidentally, I think “Repo Man” is the only example I can recall of in which the movie was released and flopped, and then the soundtrack was released and garnered a large following, so they rereleased the movie to theatres, where it now found its cult audience who came to it from the soundtrack.Report
I use the term co-extensively with “music from the movie”. Like, if someone said “I have the soundtrack to 2001!” and started playing Zarathustra, I would see what they were going for.
If someone said “I have the soundtrack to Batman!” and started playing Prince’s album, I might be tempted to use the words “inspired by”.
2. “T-Bone”Report
Me too. But I have a feeling there’s a difference between a “score” by John Williams and a “soundtrack” for a Tarantino movie, aside from the fact that the second is all needle drops.Report
Okay, so there’s a “social media embargo” for a few more weeks, which means I can’t give an opinion of the movie. However, I will say the soundtrack reminded me of the 90s indie film soundtrack-as-mixtape, however very queer and female-centric, as suits the movie. I hope they issue it on vinyl.Report