How to Deal With Politics on Thanksgiving

David Thornton

David Thornton is a freelance writer and professional pilot who has also lived in Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and Emmanuel College. He is Christian conservative/libertarian who was fortunate enough to have seen Ronald Reagan in person during his formative years. A former contributor to The Resurgent, David now writes for the Racket News with fellow Resurgent alum, Steve Berman, and his personal blog, CaptainKudzu. He currently lives with his wife and daughter near Columbus, Georgia. His son is serving in the US Air Force. You can find him on Twitter @CaptainKudzu and Facebook.

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  1. Damon
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    Agreed….

    However, I’ll be eating at friends house with her family, who are Jewish, and I’m sure the whole Israel/Hamas thing will come up. There might even be drama about one of the daughters going to a pro Hamas march. That’ll be fun.Report

  2. Jaybird
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    For the life of me, I read stories about political fights at Thanksgiving and think “they weren’t fighting about politics”. I mean, sure, on the *SURFACE* it was about Trump or Beto O’Rourke or whatever, but it *REALLY* was about stuff that happened in 10th grade.

    The same undercurrents would be there if they were talking about the Chiefs vs. the Broncos or Little Women (2019) vs. Little Women (1994).

    It’s just easier to wrap yourself in righteousness when you’re talking about whatever the hot topic this week is. “I can’t believe that you think it’s just OKAY that Trump *ASSASSINATED* Soleimani!!!!” “I can’t believe that you think that Soleimani was not a legitimate target but al-Awlaki was.”

    This isn’t about the Middle East at all.
    It’s about that thing that happened in the 80’s.
    It’s just easier to talk about the Middle East.Report

  3. Pinky
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    Well, this is only the second Thanksgiving since Dobbs, and a lot of people consider that a crisis.Report

  4. Chip Daniels
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    In any sort of situation like marriage counseling or mediation or such, the mediator always asks the parties to agree to several ground rules and general frameworks.

    So this line caught my eye:
    “When we realized that both sides love America but just have disagreements on how to make it better.”

    Is this still true?
    I mean, its very easy to declare “Of FCOURSE my side loves America” but it changes a bit when we change the wording from loving America to loving Americans

    I would argue that the leaders of the Republican party- Trump, Mike Johnson, DeSantis and the various other opinion shapers of the party- do not in fact love all Americans, and in fact, despise large numbers of them.

    And not just as in “We despise the way they are acting and want them to behave better”, but “We despise who they are, their innate qualities and refuse to co-exist with them as equals.”
    I would cite the Flight 93 narrative, any speech by Trump, or the collected writings of Mike Johnson as examples.
    In these examples, they are very explicit that the existence of the hated outgroup is so grave and so dangerous that it justifies extreme measures like jettisoning the norms of law and fair treatment.

    In this atmosphere, the idea of peaceably sitting down to dinner becomes a farce. Or, as the Gospel tells us, it is an affront to God to go to the temple and pray while you still hate the guy sitting next to you. The very ground rules of a civil society is that everyone is accepted and there is a shared commitment to liberal democracy and the rule of law and right now in America we don’t have that.Report

    • Philip H in reply to Chip Daniels
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      For a very long time around here you and I were directly told – repeatedly – we are not “real Americans” because we aren’t supporting conservative policies. We were told repeatedly we no longer deserved a seat at America’s table of democracy as a result.
      I suspect we are still not seen as “real Americans” who love their country by a good many folks here.Report

  5. InMD
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    Various politically conservative sentiments will be expressed at my family’s Thanksgiving gathering. My approach is mostly to feign ignorance or indifference and no one ever pushes me hard on my opinion. Most of those expressing these views are getting up in years and I see no reason to get involved in what seems more like blowing off steam/airing grievances than an invitation for a discussion where people are open to hearing different perspectives.

    My situation also doesn’t really fit what the people most vexxed by these gatherings seem to struggle with. I don’t anticipate any presidential endorsements or full throated defenses of Donald Trump or January 6 or whatever, even though my guess is that the bulk of the people at the table will vote for Trump next year or not at all (none of this of course matters in a state as safe as Maryland).

    The most likely way I will be brought into it is to be told I am doing the right thing by not sending my children to public school, which I will smile and nod along with, then allow the conversation to move along to other things.Report

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