Disney, DeSantis, and The Sound of Lawyers Laughing, Perpetually

Em Carpenter

Em was one of those argumentative children who was sarcastically encouraged to become a lawyer, so she did. She is a proud life-long West Virginian, and, paradoxically, a liberal. In addition to writing about society, politics and culture, she enjoys cooking, podcasts, reading, and pretending to be a runner. She will correct your grammar. You can find her on Twitter.

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  1. Doctor Jay says:

    There is a weird parallel to issues in theoretical computer science (which I have taught). It turns out that it while as a practical matter, one can often tell that “woops that program will never halt”, there is no algorithmic, certain way to determine whether a program will halt or not.

    So the Rule Against Perpetuity could equally prohibit a vesting “as soon as the program X halts on input Y”. That might not ever take place, however.

    BUT, there is kind of program known as primitive recursive. Primitive recursive functions will always halt (they don’t have while loops, only for loops with bounds that are evaluated only once…assuming that means something to you). But they can take a very long time. Just like someone’s lifetime.

    So, I would not be surprised if common law did not recognize the running time of primitive recursive functions to be within the restricted scope of the RAP, but they satisfy the spirit of it, whereas an arbitrary computable function does not.Report

  2. Philip H says:

    One will recall that the prior effort to disband the Reedy Creek District as payback fell apart once the local and state jurisdictions realized they would have to take on the District’s debt. DeSantis and his people really are not that bright.Report

    • Michael Cain in reply to Philip H says:

      Reedy Creek is responsible for at least fire protection, potable water, gray water, sewage treatment, electricity, and construction inspections for Disney World and EPCOT. They have a boatload of paperwork they have to submit for all of that stuff. Reedy Creek has 300 employees, not nearly enough to actually do that work. Large amounts must be contracted out, and my suspicion would be that Disney holds many of those contracts.

      Eg, the opening bit in the Wikipedia entry for Reedy Creek Energy Services:

      Reedy Creek Energy Services (RCES) is a wholly owned subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company. It operates the electric and other utility transmission and distribution systems of the Reedy Creek Improvement District (RCID) on behalf of the district…

      What do you want to bet that RCES owns the critical control equipment?Report

  3. DeSantis doesn’t really care about Reedy Creek. He cares about running for President. As long as he can claim to have unwokified Disney, they could be having live human sacrifices to Satan for all he cares.Report

  4. Burt Likko says:

    There’s another rule they don’t teach in law school, but which a surprisingly high percentage of lawyers come across at one point or another in their practice. The rule is “Don’t Eff With The Mouse.”Report

  5. Marchmaine says:

    Curious thing to me is the ‘any random person alive’ … could see some sort of broad connection to the interested parties (which would have the same effect – just pick some board member with a large crop of young grandchildren) … but the random living person is an interesting twist.Report

  6. CJColucci says:

    A possibly apocryphal story about the Rule Against Perpetuities has been attributed to several different formidable Property professors. I’ll use the version attributed to Austin Scott, the Harvard Law professor famous for the multi-volume treatise, Scott on Trusts.

    At an alumni function, a lawyer two sheets to the wind wandered over to Professor Scott and said:
    “I’ve practiced trusts and estates law for 20 years and I’ve never seen a Rule Against Perpetuities issue.”
    Scott replied drily: “I don’t doubt that.”Report

  7. DensityDuck says:

    it’s kind of disappointing to see that Disney’s defense strategy is the kind of thing that makes people cheer when lawyers get eaten by dinosaurs

    like, people who were complaining about Trump’s legal team using “obscure legal maneuvering” to “delay the process of justice even though everyone knows how it’s going to go” and now here’s…that, but it’s good, because this time it’s the other direction

    (but maybe it’s different when being Against Trump is a load-bearing element of your personality)Report

    • Philip H in reply to DensityDuck says:

      Ron DeSantis is trying to burnish his conservative bona fides by using the power of the state to attack free speech h by a corporation. One doesn’t have to like the corporation or DeSantis to understand why this should be fought.Report

      • Chip Daniels in reply to Philip H says:

        We chortle at how the Mouse King outmaneuvered DeSantis, but the message has been sent to every mom and pop business in Florida, that any speech which offends the Governor will be punished with all the power at his discretion.

        State contracts, fees, permissions, taxes, regulations- whatever power can be used as leverage to punish his political opponents will be used.

        And the “free market” “small government” types?

        Crickets.Report